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**JIMs70GMC** · 03-25-2002, 08:50 PM

Went to three different auto parts stores(auto zone, advanced and car quest) looking for an upper radiator hose for my K25 w/ 350. All three come back with a 2" to 6" piece of hose. The upper hose on my truck is about 24" long and has 3 bends. The guy at car quest looked in a book not a computer and also pulled the hose listed for a 2wd, it was a perfect fit. What gives? Anybody else encounter this?

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1970 GMC K25 Custom
Chesapeake, VA
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Alexis · 03-25-2002, 08:56 PM

that reason why i dont go to those store, human error, who else put the info on the computer, they run off number and you actually think all the numbers are right, some one somewhere F***ked up or just got tired of the BS of typing so much

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Jessica: 1967 2wd SWB (pops daily driver)
Helga: 1972 4x4 3/4ton LWB (my daily driver)

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MeanGreen · 03-25-2002, 09:17 PM

I have an original 1972 K-10 (350) 4 speed. Between the radiator and the engine is a metal tube with short pieces of hose at each end attaching them. Maybe those are the hoses he was trying to sell you?

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71402BB · 03-25-2002, 09:28 PM

here's something else interesting to know! I work at NAPA and I needed a blower motor so me and the parts woman I work with are going throught the puter and I order the blower motor for a NON A/C truck and I get the part and all it is is a freakin blower wheel! I was like WTF?.... It's just a wheel! so we go back into the puter and get the part number for the one thats for the "A/C cab" and it's the actual motor that I need! So the moral of the story is the computer are not always right! most the time it is the parts person but sometimes it's not! I just thought I would let you all know! Just incase you need a blower motor anytime soon! LOL

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71 SWB Stepside, was a 250, now is a 402 Big Block with 4 speed and 3.73's

72 LWB 4x4 350 4-speed 3.08's posi wearing army olive drab green (SOLD!)

68 BURB 50TH LOOKALIKE with built 350 4-speed 4.11's and posi

keenee · 03-25-2002, 09:50 PM

I also have seen the metal rad hose with a small piece of rubber at each end. And you only visited 1 parts store the others only sell wax and oil, no I am sorry that is all that I would buy there!

Longhorn Man · 03-25-2002, 09:55 PM

The 4X4's all came with the stubby hosees and metal pipe from what I understand.
The engine is set further back on a 4X4, and this was to help keeping the hose out of the fan. Also less hose to get worn out, so it would last longer.

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'69 G.M.C. 350/350. Trying to clean up the left over damage from the Dope-Smokin-Old-Man
I've been dubbed the Longhorn Freak/Fanatic/Expert, I just hope I can live up to it.
Need to pick up the one ton Longhorn with a PONTIAC 350/350soon.
Thanks every one!

Check out The Longhorn Webite.
If you need a pic posted, E-mail me at longhornmail@yahoo.com
Andy, in Columbus Ohio

**JIMs70GMC** · 03-25-2002, 10:05 PM

So I should have two little rubber hoses and a metal hose in between? The hose I bought is for a 2wd w/ small block, isn't the engine in the same place on a 4wd as a 2wd, v8 that is? And the straight 6 mounts are further forward and that on 2wd the v8 could be moved forward?

p.s. I would have went to NAPA but they were closed. I know I should not have been in a hurry.

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1970 GMC K25 Custom
Chesapeake, VA
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jose · 03-25-2002, 10:09 PM

longhornmail is right . The 2 wd hoses also tend to rub up against the alternater on the 4 wd .

**JIMs70GMC** · 03-25-2002, 10:29 PM

I understand what's being said, but why does it make a difference if it's 2wd or 4wd? It's the same distance, both have altenators etc...

[This message has been edited by JIMs70GMC (edited March 25, 2002).]

69 longhorn · 03-25-2002, 11:55 PM

The V8 sits foward in the 2WD trucks(about 3 1/2"). The 2WD 6 cyl trucks sit closer to the firewall,as do the 4WD trucks(V8 mounts in 6cyl position on the 4WD).....69 longhorn.

cheyenne10 · 03-26-2002, 12:03 AM

Anyone have a stock spare metal upper radiator hose for my 72 4x4 suburban in good shape? My hose rubs on fan shroud. The usual picture and price if possible please.

thanks.

cheyenne10@msn.com

Longhorn Man · 03-26-2002, 12:08 AM

Here's a couple shots of a 350 in a '70 C/20

Notice the firewall clearance, and also the fan shroud size. My upper hose is off of a '73 - 87 truck...fits better than the correct one.

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'69 G.M.C. 350/350. Trying to clean up the left over damage from the Dope-Smokin-Old-Man
I've been dubbed the Longhorn Freak/Fanatic/Expert, I just hope I can live up to it.
Need to pick up the one ton Longhorn with a PONTIAC 350/350soon.
Thanks every one!

Check out The Longhorn Webite.
If you need a pic posted, E-mail me at longhornmail@yahoo.com
Andy, in Columbus Ohio

O'l Buck · 03-26-2002, 02:07 AM

the engine does sit further back in the 4X4, mine's using a 2wd radiator hose and working well. Usually when I go to a parts store, other than my old trusty napa store, I get the old "our parts books only go back to '74", has anyone ever tried to get a stock throttle cable for a '72 4X4 with 350/automatic??? The headaches never cease!! LOL

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'72 Chevy 1/2T 4x4 shortbox stepside 350/350auto on '84
ralleys and 31/10.5s

67 Cutlass convertible
330, 3spd stick

90 GMC Jimmy
350/auto
Chad Stephens
Orleans,NE

Wootdog · 03-26-2002, 08:35 AM

I went to Advance as well as Auto Zone for the top radiator hose for the 68 short wide V8 and of course got the wrong one. Then I looked at my 79 camaro with a 350 and saw it was the right hose. sometimes you have to mix and match. Something I won't forget. Kerry

Chris H · 03-26-2002, 08:51 AM

Here is a picture of a (dirty) 71K20 engine compartment showing the piece of metal tube in question....

**JIMs70GMC** · 03-26-2002, 08:27 PM

Thanks, everybody. That clears it up for me. Sometime in the past 32 years a previous owner "upgraded" my upper rad hose, oh well live and learn.....

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1970 GMC K25 Custom
Chesapeake, VA
My 70 GMCor Webshots http://community.webshots.com/user/70gmc

*Fast68Chevy* · 03-26-2002, 08:39 PM

interesting,,

busterwivell · 03-26-2002, 09:50 PM

I'm in mourning........My NAPA guy ( afriend for years) just told me that as of 4-2-02 he now works for the local Pontiac dealer in the parts department. How could he do this to me? At least he didn't go to the Daewoo dealer!

03-25-2002, 08:50 PM	#1
JIMs70GMC user # 2756 Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Chesapeake, Virginia Posts: 4,612	What's the deal.... Went to three different auto parts stores(auto zone, advanced and car quest) looking for an upper radiator hose for my K25 w/ 350. All three come back with a 2" to 6" piece of hose. The upper hose on my truck is about 24" long and has 3 bends. The guy at car quest looked in a book not a computer and also pulled the hose listed for a 2wd, it was a perfect fit. What gives? Anybody else encounter this? ------------------ 1970 GMC K25 Custom Chesapeake, VA My 70 GMCor Webshots http://community.webshots.com/user/70gmc __________________ 1970 K25, 8' stepside bed 350/465/205 44 up front, 60 in the rear 4.10s rolling on 33" Dunlop MTs 1986 K5, 350/465/208 Dana 60/14 bolt from a cucv 36" Super Swampers TSL/SX 1983 K20 w/ CUCV axles, 350/700R4/208 sitting on 37" Goodyears 1986 M1031 6.2 diesel, TH400/NP205 locker in the rear and a LS in the front, all stock for now..... 1986 K30, 350/400/205 dana 60 and 14 bolt. I kept the drivetrain. Body/bad and chassis are gone. 1981 K30, 350/465/205 dana 60 and dually 14 bolt. Has a G80, and a flat bed. Going to replace the flat bed. 1985 K20, 350/400/208 10 bolt and SF 14 bolt. I wonder where I can find some 1 tons. Hmmmmm

03-25-2002, 09:17 PM	#3
MeanGreen Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miramar, Florida Posts: 35	I have an original 1972 K-10 (350) 4 speed. Between the radiator and the engine is a metal tube with short pieces of hose at each end attaching them. Maybe those are the hoses he was trying to sell you? ------------------ 1972 K10 Green. 2002 2500HD C/C D/A Green 12' airboat W/0-470 continental webpage __________________ 1972 K10 Green. 2002 2500HD C/C D/A Green 12' airboat W/0-470 continental

03-25-2002, 09:28 PM	#4
71402BB now thats a true COON DOG Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Franconia, NH Posts: 1,977	here's something else interesting to know! I work at NAPA and I needed a blower motor so me and the parts woman I work with are going throught the puter and I order the blower motor for a NON A/C truck and I get the part and all it is is a freakin blower wheel! I was like WTF?.... It's just a wheel! so we go back into the puter and get the part number for the one thats for the "A/C cab" and it's the actual motor that I need! So the moral of the story is the computer are not always right! most the time it is the parts person but sometimes it's not! I just thought I would let you all know! Just incase you need a blower motor anytime soon! LOL ------------------ 71 SWB Stepside, was a 250, now is a 402 Big Block with 4 speed and 3.73's 72 LWB 4x4 350 4-speed 3.08's posi wearing army olive drab green (SOLD!) 68 BURB 50TH LOOKALIKE with built 350 4-speed 4.11's and posi __________________ current project 67 402BB stout th350 3.08's with a locker. Plan on tubs 18.5's out back! (thanks Burnsman!) 71 SWB Stepside, was a 250, now is a 402 Big Block with 4 speed and 3.73's ( was crushed by a tree, bed sold, motor pulled) was my first truck!... oh well... 72 LWB 4x4 350 4-speed 3.08's posi wearing army olive drab green (SOLD!) 68 BURB 50TH LOOKALIKE work in progress, soon to have 250-I6 with a 3-speed on the tree 4.11's and posi ( currently sitting in back yard tarped awaiting time, $$$, and lots of love!) 67 1 TON- work truck 396 sm 420 4-speed, flat bed 4.57 gears "big red" (my first landscape truck, very rusty and crusty! but still gets the job done when needed!)

03-25-2002, 09:50 PM	#5
keenee Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Houston, Pennsylvania Posts: 231	I also have seen the metal rad hose with a small piece of rubber at each end. And you only visited 1 parts store the others only sell wax and oil, no I am sorry that is all that I would buy there! __________________ '96 GMC Suburban 6.5t '99 F**d Windstar '07 SON '09 DAUGHTER XOXOXO Wife

03-25-2002, 10:05 PM	#7
JIMs70GMC user # 2756 Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Chesapeake, Virginia Posts: 4,612	So I should have two little rubber hoses and a metal hose in between? The hose I bought is for a 2wd w/ small block, isn't the engine in the same place on a 4wd as a 2wd, v8 that is? And the straight 6 mounts are further forward and that on 2wd the v8 could be moved forward? p.s. I would have went to NAPA but they were closed. I know I should not have been in a hurry. ------------------ 1970 GMC K25 Custom Chesapeake, VA My 70 GMCor Webshots http://community.webshots.com/user/70gmc __________________ 1970 K25, 8' stepside bed 350/465/205 44 up front, 60 in the rear 4.10s rolling on 33" Dunlop MTs 1986 K5, 350/465/208 Dana 60/14 bolt from a cucv 36" Super Swampers TSL/SX 1983 K20 w/ CUCV axles, 350/700R4/208 sitting on 37" Goodyears 1986 M1031 6.2 diesel, TH400/NP205 locker in the rear and a LS in the front, all stock for now..... 1986 K30, 350/400/205 dana 60 and 14 bolt. I kept the drivetrain. Body/bad and chassis are gone. 1981 K30, 350/465/205 dana 60 and dually 14 bolt. Has a G80, and a flat bed. Going to replace the flat bed. 1985 K20, 350/400/208 10 bolt and SF 14 bolt. I wonder where I can find some 1 tons. Hmmmmm

03-25-2002, 08:56 PM	#2
Alexis Member since 2000 Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Mountain View Ca / Mexico Posts: 7,874	that reason why i dont go to those store, human error, who else put the info on the computer, they run off number and you actually think all the numbers are right, some one somewhere F***ked up or just got tired of the BS of typing so much ------------------ Mechanic @ California Concept Britney: 1970 2wd K/5 Blazer (Frame up) Jessica: 1967 2wd SWB (pops daily driver) Helga: 1972 4x4 3/4ton LWB (my daily driver) AIM:Alexmart1 Mountain View, Cali

03-25-2002, 09:55 PM	#6
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	The 4X4's all came with the stubby hosees and metal pipe from what I understand. The engine is set further back on a 4X4, and this was to help keeping the hose out of the fan. Also less hose to get worn out, so it would last longer. ------------------ '69 G.M.C. 350/350. Trying to clean up the left over damage from the Dope-Smokin-Old-Man I've been dubbed the Longhorn Freak/Fanatic/Expert, I just hope I can live up to it. Need to pick up the one ton Longhorn with a PONTIAC 350/350soon. Thanks every one! Check out The Longhorn Webite. If you need a pic posted, E-mail me at longhornmail@yahoo.com Andy, in Columbus Ohio

03-25-2002, 10:09 PM	#8
jose Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Salem , Oregon 97301 Posts: 1,796	longhornmail is right . The 2 wd hoses also tend to rub up against the alternater on the 4 wd . __________________ 68 GMC 4x4 SWB jose6772@yahoo.com

03-25-2002, 10:29 PM	#9
JIMs70GMC user # 2756 Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Chesapeake, Virginia Posts: 4,612	I understand what's being said, but why does it make a difference if it's 2wd or 4wd? It's the same distance, both have altenators etc... [This message has been edited by JIMs70GMC (edited March 25, 2002).] __________________ 1970 K25, 8' stepside bed 350/465/205 44 up front, 60 in the rear 4.10s rolling on 33" Dunlop MTs 1986 K5, 350/465/208 Dana 60/14 bolt from a cucv 36" Super Swampers TSL/SX 1983 K20 w/ CUCV axles, 350/700R4/208 sitting on 37" Goodyears 1986 M1031 6.2 diesel, TH400/NP205 locker in the rear and a LS in the front, all stock for now..... 1986 K30, 350/400/205 dana 60 and 14 bolt. I kept the drivetrain. Body/bad and chassis are gone. 1981 K30, 350/465/205 dana 60 and dually 14 bolt. Has a G80, and a flat bed. Going to replace the flat bed. 1985 K20, 350/400/208 10 bolt and SF 14 bolt. I wonder where I can find some 1 tons. Hmmmmm

03-25-2002, 11:55 PM	#10
69 longhorn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: rock island,il,usa Posts: 5,382	The V8 sits foward in the 2WD trucks(about 3 1/2"). The 2WD 6 cyl trucks sit closer to the firewall,as do the 4WD trucks(V8 mounts in 6cyl position on the 4WD).....69 longhorn. __________________ http://community.webshots.com/user/hotrodhorn

03-26-2002, 12:03 AM	#11
cheyenne10 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,512	Anyone have a stock spare metal upper radiator hose for my 72 4x4 suburban in good shape? My hose rubs on fan shroud. The usual picture and price if possible please. thanks. cheyenne10@msn.com __________________ Bob

03-26-2002, 12:08 AM	#12
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Here's a couple shots of a 350 in a '70 C/20 Notice the firewall clearance, and also the fan shroud size. My upper hose is off of a '73 - 87 truck...fits better than the correct one. ------------------ '69 G.M.C. 350/350. Trying to clean up the left over damage from the Dope-Smokin-Old-Man I've been dubbed the Longhorn Freak/Fanatic/Expert, I just hope I can live up to it. Need to pick up the one ton Longhorn with a PONTIAC 350/350soon. Thanks every one! Check out The Longhorn Webite. If you need a pic posted, E-mail me at longhornmail@yahoo.com Andy, in Columbus Ohio

03-26-2002, 02:07 AM	#13
O'l Buck Recovering Truck Driver Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Orleans, NE USA Posts: 1,883	the engine does sit further back in the 4X4, mine's using a 2wd radiator hose and working well. Usually when I go to a parts store, other than my old trusty napa store, I get the old "our parts books only go back to '74", has anyone ever tried to get a stock throttle cable for a '72 4X4 with 350/automatic??? The headaches never cease!! LOL ------------------ '72 Chevy 1/2T 4x4 shortbox stepside 350/350auto on '84 ralleys and 31/10.5s 67 Cutlass convertible 330, 3spd stick 90 GMC Jimmy 350/auto Chad Stephens Orleans,NE __________________ 67 K-20 350, SM465, Eaton rear, 4.56 no spin option 00 Dodge 2500 4x4, 24V cummins, 5 speed Chad South Central Nebraska

03-26-2002, 08:35 AM	#14
Wootdog Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Virginia Beach, Va, USA Posts: 1,680	I went to Advance as well as Auto Zone for the top radiator hose for the 68 short wide V8 and of course got the wrong one. Then I looked at my 79 camaro with a 350 and saw it was the right hose. sometimes you have to mix and match. Something I won't forget. Kerry __________________ 1967 C10 Got it back after three years Boy I sure missed Peppy 1969 Chevelle 1990 IROC Z Convertible 2002 Silverado LT

03-26-2002, 08:51 AM	#15
Chris H 72 C30 Trailer Queen Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: SE MN, USA Posts: 794	Here is a picture of a (dirty) 71K20 engine compartment showing the piece of metal tube in question.... __________________ Chris H 72 C30 133" 72 C30 157" flat-dump 69 C10 short fleet 71 ElCamino 2000 K2500 crewcab shortbed (sold, sorry old friend) 2005 GMC 2500HD shortcrew Duramax 2006 K1500 RCSB and a couple other projects/parts



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03-26-2002, 08:27 PM	#16
JIMs70GMC user # 2756 Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Chesapeake, Virginia Posts: 4,612	Thanks, everybody. That clears it up for me. Sometime in the past 32 years a previous owner "upgraded" my upper rad hose, oh well live and learn..... ------------------ 1970 GMC K25 Custom Chesapeake, VA My 70 GMCor Webshots http://community.webshots.com/user/70gmc __________________ 1970 K25, 8' stepside bed 350/465/205 44 up front, 60 in the rear 4.10s rolling on 33" Dunlop MTs 1986 K5, 350/465/208 Dana 60/14 bolt from a cucv 36" Super Swampers TSL/SX 1983 K20 w/ CUCV axles, 350/700R4/208 sitting on 37" Goodyears 1986 M1031 6.2 diesel, TH400/NP205 locker in the rear and a LS in the front, all stock for now..... 1986 K30, 350/400/205 dana 60 and 14 bolt. I kept the drivetrain. Body/bad and chassis are gone. 1981 K30, 350/465/205 dana 60 and dually 14 bolt. Has a G80, and a flat bed. Going to replace the flat bed. 1985 K20, 350/400/208 10 bolt and SF 14 bolt. I wonder where I can find some 1 tons. Hmmmmm

03-26-2002, 08:39 PM	#17
Fast68Chevy Account Suspended Join Date: May 2000 Location: IL Posts: 0	interesting,,

03-26-2002, 09:50 PM	#18
busterwivell Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Sahuarita, AZ USA Posts: 2,033	I'm in mourning........My NAPA guy ( afriend for years) just told me that as of 4-2-02 he now works for the local Pontiac dealer in the parts department. How could he do this to me? At least he didn't go to the Daewoo dealer! __________________ Bill - Tucson, AZ 47 Chevrolet 2 dr sedan 56 Chevrolet 210 2 dr sedan 66 Chevrolet Malibu 2 dr 4 speed 71 Chevrolet C30 Longhorn 86 Chevrolet Monte Carlo SS (Sold) 01 Chevrolet Tahoe IM - BUSTERWIVE@aol.com

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