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Oil capacity of 350 V8? Also, what say you about synthetic?
Going to change my oil, but need to know how many quarts to purchase?
Also, I'm a synthetic fan, but curious if this would be ok to use on a '69 350 V8 with a rebuilt motor? What oil do you use? Posted via Mobile Device |
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Re: Oil capacity of 350 V8? Also, what say you about synthetic?
If it has a stock pan it is 5 quarts. I just use Valvoline 10W40 standard type oil.
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Re: Oil capacity of 350 V8? Also, what say you about synthetic?
i'm a huge fan if synthetic's engine tranny rear wheelbeaings anything and everything that ican use it on i do
i like mobil one
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Re: Oil capacity of 350 V8? Also, what say you about synthetic?
x2 on 5 quarts with a stock pan. No problem using synthetics.... I do in gearboxes but I don't personally see the justification in most engines. I use Chevron 10W30 dino and change it regularly, and use a quality oil filter.
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Re: Oil capacity of 350 V8? Also, what say you about synthetic?
I use Castrol 10W30 with good results, can't justify the synthetic for the engine. Also if you have a few leaks the synthetic will leak even more... FYI
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Re: Oil capacity of 350 V8? Also, what say you about synthetic?
SYNTHETIC IS GREAT IN THE NEWER GENERATION ENGINES.
Sorry the caps lock was on. but i think with the greater tolerances of the older designed motor it does not do as well. |
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Re: Oil capacity of 350 V8? Also, what say you about synthetic?
In my opinion, changing to synthetic just to use synthetic, is a waste of money.
On the other hand, if you're dealing with a new crate engine or a total rebuild, then it might be something to consider. The supposed advantages of synthetic over fossil oil will take some time and miles to become apparent. The military uses synthetic and takes periodic samples to send off for analysis. That would be for aircraft usage. In theory, the synthetic lasts and lasts, and the periodic analysis is what is used to determine when/if it should be changed.
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Re: Oil capacity of 350 V8? Also, what say you about synthetic?
I thought someone on this site used synthetic & ruined thier engine- it does'nt have zinc?- like the conventional does. Somebody in CA? I may be wrong
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Re: Oil capacity of 350 V8? Also, what say you about synthetic?
Probably on initial cam break in with a rebuild. Sure it's happened to more than just one.
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Re: Oil capacity of 350 V8? Also, what say you about synthetic?
If you are going to purchase synthetic oil, make sure you purchase fully synthetic, as to get the most out of your money. Read the label on the bottle, cause a lot of them these days are blended. I have ran both, switched back and forth between conventional and synthetic. I usually purchase what is on sale for Castrol. I don't switch brands off oil.
The Army sent me to a advanced class a year or so ago, the older gentleman teaching the class brought up the two oils. This guy has vast amounts of knowledge and certified in every aspect of the automotive field. He made sure he brought up the fact he was around when synthetic oil was first introduced in the 70's. This is what he told us: If you feel you want to run synthetic and can afford it, your choice. Fully synthetics have a longer life for mileage (8-10K miles) and you don't have to change for seasonal as the viscosity stay the same. Synthetics are also chemically made and have no minerals. He added the fact that you may gain a few more HP. Conventional oil is made from minerals and has a running life span of about 6000 miles (the myth of changing oils every 3k was brought around by the companies producing the oils). Has to be changed for cold and hot weather temps to a different weight. Another thing he mentioned was there is no harm in switching back and forth between the two, it's just when you have to change the oil that makes the difference. And beware of buying synthetics that are promoted as synthetics and are actually blended, basically you are just paying over paying. He also told us it doesn't matter the generation of engine for running types of oils, just what they are specified to run. I have ran all three in my older vehicles and newer. If it wasn't leaking before I put the synthetic in, it wasn't leaking afterwards either (high mileage or not). I didn't feel any performance differences. My rule of thumb for the oils is, I stay with one brand. I have no problem running conventional, blended, or fully synthetic. But, I do ensure that I am getting a deal when I purchase, or base it off of if I am making a trip from Kansas to Maryland and back. Just my opinion.
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Re: Oil capacity of 350 V8? Also, what say you about synthetic?
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i use brad penn oil, it's cheaper than synthetic and it has zinc, you can also use joe gibbs racing oil but it's more expensive than brad penn, by the way the brad penn oil is the old green kendall formula for those that remember that |
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Re: Oil capacity of 350 V8? Also, what say you about synthetic?
Use diesel rated oils such as Shell Rotella, or Castrol Hypuron (good stuff!!!) or any motorcycle rated oil. They still have plenty of zinc for the older engines. NO regular motor oils including synthetic contain zinc anymore. Zinc is needed for proper valvetrain lubrication in older engines
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Re: Oil capacity of 350 V8? Also, what say you about synthetic?
And if your heads have been rebuilt within the past several years, you probably had hardened seats installed, so zinc is no longer required.... right? That's what I was told when my heads were done several years back.
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Re: Oil capacity of 350 V8? Also, what say you about synthetic?
I believe the hardened valve seats had to do with leaded or unleaded gasoline. Zinc in the oil has to do with stuff like flat tappet cams and such.
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Re: Oil capacity of 350 V8? Also, what say you about synthetic?
From my research on oils,I can find nowhere that zinc has been banned.It seems that in all I have read that some zinc is still included in most oils and that other anti-wear additives have been included in at least some.Nowhere do I find that synthetic is better or worse than mineral based oil.I also haven't found anything about changing between the different(syn-blend-mineral) types causing problems.About the time the synthetics started hitting the market,I took several industrial lube classes and never was taught that there was any difference in lubricity.There are some problems with mixing and I don't fully understand but all I have found say not to mix but you can use a blend(isn't thathe same thing?).About that same time I was involved in upkeep on a fleet and they had gone to Mobil synthetics.Their test agreement with Mobil was to run Mobil synthetic in their fleet.Changes were done every 12,000 mi but the filters were changed every 3000 and a quart added.This was in the 70's and the test was scheduled to run for several years.I do know that in the 2 years I was involved there were no serious engine wear problems noted.This was in the early/mid 70's and the fleet(or at least what we took care of) consisted mostly of 1 tons racking up 30,000 or so a year.Each oil change had to be sampled for testing by Mobil.Who knows what they found but I'm sure they are still doing some of this type of research.
I have seen the cam manufacturers all seem to require the use of an antiwaer additive(I'm assuming a lead) for cam break-in.Most have their own proprietary additive,made to their specs.
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Now that you've jostled my aging gray matter.... yup, I think you nailed it. My thought process was flawed (again!). If oil affects the valve seats, you have bigger problems... Thanks!
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Re: Oil capacity of 350 V8? Also, what say you about synthetic?
Thanks for the replies everybody!
I bought some full synthetic castrol today for only $17.29. Not sure if it was a price mistake or not, but that's a great deal in my book for full synthetic oil. I changed it today, and it seems to run great, although its probably in my head. ![]() I'm sold on synthetic, and have for years. Just needed opinions on this vehicle Posted via Mobile Device Last edited by Mister-B; 10-21-2012 at 09:50 PM. |
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Re: Oil capacity of 350 V8? Also, what say you about synthetic?
from crower site:
Use of Synthetic Oils Crower does not recommend the use of synthetic motor oil in any application, particularly in hydraulic and flat tappet camshafts. If your car manufacturer's owners manual suggests running synthetic oil, you may do so. The minimum gains in horsepower are offset by the excessive wear to cam and lifter surfaces. We have found that the benefits, of synthetic motor oil, do not outweigh the costs and may endanger your engine's life. Crower recommends a non-detergent / race only petroleum based 30wt. motor oil in all performance applications. The lack of phosphorus and zinc in current oil blends is catastrophic to engine longevity. For all applications we do recommend running our ZDDPlus additive, which adds zinc and phosphorus back into the oil. For additional information on oil, click here! http://www.crower.com/faq/#h |
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Re: Oil capacity of 350 V8? Also, what say you about synthetic?
regular old pennsoil 10w-30 has worked for my bunch of vehicles for years..........
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Re: Oil capacity of 350 V8? Also, what say you about synthetic?
I dont know if its any good but i switched from valvoline to the new quaker state defy motor oil.It claims to have more zinc in it.
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Re: Oil capacity of 350 V8? Also, what say you about synthetic?
I swear by Valvoline VR1 30w. It's one of the few oils that still has High Zinc and Phosphorus.
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Re: Oil capacity of 350 V8? Also, what say you about synthetic?
Used quaker state for years and never a motor issue, run synthetic. In my 06 since new, well all my trucks/cars.
For some reason I cant get that I will run Castrol. Posted via Mobile Device |
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