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**Already Gone** · 02-18-2013, 02:09 PM

This truck on Ebay is advertised as a GMC Sierra Grande. I'm not a Super Spid Guru like some members but isn't the Spid in the pictures from a Chevy? I thought CST trucks were Chevys only.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...E:B:SS:CA:1123

**jocko** · 02-18-2013, 03:11 PM

i believe it's correct - no preceding "T" until 72 in GMCs, the CST is a chevy and gmc thingy, but the giveaway is in the model number - the "57" is specifically a GMC swb truck (whereas a chev would be an "07"). Other hints are the model year "1" AFTER the fremont plant designation rather than before it as in a chev. That was a gmc VIN ordering thing. Not sure if the "-" was GMC-only also, I think it was. neat little truck

**Bill72** · 02-18-2013, 03:26 PM

I would still think that it is a Sierra and not a Grande as the code is Z84 instead of YE9. Lots of 71 SPIDS still listed Z84 as CST instead of Cheyenne. I have also seen many GMC's that list the YE9 on the SPID but call it Cheyenne Super Equipment instead of Sierra Grande.

SS Tim · 02-18-2013, 06:03 PM

It looks like it is a Sierra. Decodes as a very early 71MY Fremont built GMC. Most of the examples I have around this time that are listed as "Sierra Grande" from Freemont are 70s and they have both the Z84 Custom Sport Truck and Z17 "Sierra Grande" or "Sierra Grande Truck" upgrade listed on the SPID. A quick look through my folders is showing this to be pretty much the same for 71s from other plants (US market) and 72s rolling over to the YE9 RPO code for Sierra Grande. Unfortunately most of my SPIDs are face value and I generally can't say for sure how a truck "was" compared to the SPID. My thought is if this "is" a Grande without the Z17 code it is due to a factory transition or mistake.

This last column of the build sheet seems to confirm it being a "Sierra" as well. RPO Z17 if present, would be in this column.

U63 P/Button Radio
Z18 GVW Plate
Z84 Custom Sport Truck
Z53 Amp-Oil-Temp Gauge
536 White/Ochre
626 Parchment Trim

For what it is worth the truck appears to be for dealer code 216 and routed through ElPaso (box123)

**Already Gone** · 02-18-2013, 06:09 PM

See you guys are the Spid Gurus. It just ddint look right to me and I thought "CST" was a Chevy only thing with "Sierra Grande" being the GMC equivalent.

mfwcar11 · 02-19-2013, 01:14 AM

nice truck!

mgkgmc · 02-19-2013, 09:52 AM

I like that one thats a good looking truck

02-18-2013, 02:09 PM	#1
Already Gone 70+ ( Old Skool Club ) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan ,Canada Posts: 9,143	Am I Missing Something? This truck on Ebay is advertised as a GMC Sierra Grande. I'm not a Super Spid Guru like some members but isn't the Spid in the pictures from a Chevy? I thought CST trucks were Chevys only. http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...E:B:SS:CA:1123 __________________ 1972 C10 Custom/Deluxe 613 Highlander 406/700R4 1999 White Tahoe LS 4x2 with Z56 Police Package 1992 K1500 GMC Suburban Members I have personally met: MusicMan70 - HeavyD - ChewyChevy67 - StingRay -71SWB4x4 - 67 Burb - DeadheadNM - too much stuff - bc65 - das601 " Circumsatances Do Not Change Responsibility " " The Sky is not the Limit, Your Mind is." Marilyn Monroe .. RIP Charlie Watts 1941 - 2021

02-18-2013, 03:11 PM	#2
jocko Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Godley, TX Posts: 17,975	Re: Am I Missing Something? i believe it's correct - no preceding "T" until 72 in GMCs, the CST is a chevy and gmc thingy, but the giveaway is in the model number - the "57" is specifically a GMC swb truck (whereas a chev would be an "07"). Other hints are the model year "1" AFTER the fremont plant designation rather than before it as in a chev. That was a gmc VIN ordering thing. Not sure if the "-" was GMC-only also, I think it was. neat little truck

02-18-2013, 03:26 PM	#3
Bill72 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Fort Sumner, NM Posts: 299	Re: Am I Missing Something? I would still think that it is a Sierra and not a Grande as the code is Z84 instead of YE9. Lots of 71 SPIDS still listed Z84 as CST instead of Cheyenne. I have also seen many GMC's that list the YE9 on the SPID but call it Cheyenne Super Equipment instead of Sierra Grande.

02-18-2013, 06:03 PM	#4
SS Tim Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Edwards, CA Posts: 7,503	Re: Am I Missing Something? It looks like it is a Sierra. Decodes as a very early 71MY Fremont built GMC. Most of the examples I have around this time that are listed as "Sierra Grande" from Freemont are 70s and they have both the Z84 Custom Sport Truck and Z17 "Sierra Grande" or "Sierra Grande Truck" upgrade listed on the SPID. A quick look through my folders is showing this to be pretty much the same for 71s from other plants (US market) and 72s rolling over to the YE9 RPO code for Sierra Grande. Unfortunately most of my SPIDs are face value and I generally can't say for sure how a truck "was" compared to the SPID. My thought is if this "is" a Grande without the Z17 code it is due to a factory transition or mistake. This last column of the build sheet seems to confirm it being a "Sierra" as well. RPO Z17 if present, would be in this column. U63 P/Button Radio Z18 GVW Plate Z84 Custom Sport Truck Z53 Amp-Oil-Temp Gauge 536 White/Ochre 626 Parchment Trim For what it is worth the truck appears to be for dealer code 216 and routed through ElPaso (box123) Attached Images __________________ Thanks, Tim * VIN/Model Decoders * Power Team Charts (engine/transmission/gear ratio) * Post Your Pickup SPID Blazer SPID Suburban/Panel SPID * RTFM ... Read The Factory Manuals... download 'em here Highlanders Do you have a 1972 Plaid Pickup? Plaid Blazer ** Plaid Suburban

02-18-2013, 06:09 PM	#5
Already Gone 70+ ( Old Skool Club ) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan ,Canada Posts: 9,143	Re: Am I Missing Something? See you guys are the Spid Gurus. It just ddint look right to me and I thought "CST" was a Chevy only thing with "Sierra Grande" being the GMC equivalent. __________________ 1972 C10 Custom/Deluxe 613 Highlander 406/700R4 1999 White Tahoe LS 4x2 with Z56 Police Package 1992 K1500 GMC Suburban Members I have personally met: MusicMan70 - HeavyD - ChewyChevy67 - StingRay -71SWB4x4 - 67 Burb - DeadheadNM - too much stuff - bc65 - das601 " Circumsatances Do Not Change Responsibility " " The Sky is not the Limit, Your Mind is." Marilyn Monroe .. RIP Charlie Watts 1941 - 2021

02-19-2013, 01:14 AM	#6
mfwcar11 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: merced,ca. Posts: 17	Re: Am I Missing Something? nice truck! __________________ 68 chevy swd fleetside LT1/700R/under construction 72 chevy swb fleetside sb400/400 trans 73 chevy swb fleetside bb454/400 trans 2inch drop spindles 4bar c notch and airbaged/Under construction 07 GMC HD Durmax Marshall Weaver Last edited by mfwcar11; 02-19-2013 at 01:21 AM.

02-19-2013, 09:52 AM	#7
mgkgmc Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Glendale Arizona Posts: 1,354	Re: Am I Missing Something? I like that one thats a good looking truck __________________ 1970 GMC 1500 stepside 1972 GMC Jimmy Custom 2004 Chevy Colorado 1989 Swb Silverado 1972 Aj's Stormer

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