1967 c10/c20 Restoration Value -which way to go

[95gATL]

Hi folks....
I have a '67 c20 small window fleetside truck that I am in the process of restoring. I've decided I have WAY too many vehicles and one must go and this one is it. Here are details on the truck:

67 small window long bed fleetside.
ZERO rust under the truck.
SOLID floors, never been repaired and zero rust.
Under the battery tray is only rust in engine compartment
Couple of small bubble rust in both door area that are being cut out and repaired.
Very straight truck

Matching # 327 v8
4 speed floor manual (matching with what came w/truck).
Power steering. No A/C, no power brakes.
Engine was rebuilt .30 over and brand new clutch.
147,000 miles on the truck. Drives well.

I'm having the interior redone to factory original (IE: seat cover, black dash pad, and black floor mat).

So my biggest question would be about the paint. It was originally a BLUE AQUA color. It is painted a SILVER color now which is faded and needs to be painted.

What is going to get me the highest price when I sell it....? Change back to the factory BLUE AQUA...??? Or keep the silver color and respray??? OR another color???

I can look at NADA value all day long but really don't think a truck like this will be worth 20k-30k...? Maybe i'm wrong.

Constructive and positive comments are appreciated......
Thanks.

[dan42]

It would be more valuable with the original paint color. That being said, what you have is a not very rare, though solid, modestly optioned truck. Long bed three-quarter tons are not desirable as a collector's item either, IMO, and are used primarily as workhorses. If it was in pristine original condition and you found the right buyer you might get 9 grand. I sold a '70 3/4 ton 2WD a couple of years ago for 5 grand, and though not super original, it was a very clean truck, and that was in California, where generally speaking you can get a little more money for things. Just a couple things to think about.

[95gATL]

Originally Posted by dan42

It would be more valuable with the original paint color. That being said, what you have is a not very rare, though solid, modestly optioned truck. Long bed three-quarter tons are not desirable as a collector's item either, IMO, and are used primarily as workhorses. If it was in pristine original condition and you found the right buyer you might get 9 grand. I sold a '70 3/4 ton 2WD a couple of years ago for 5 grand, and though not super original, it was a very clean truck, and that was in California, where generally speaking you can get a little more money for things. Just a couple things to think about.

yup....this truck is very heavy duty. If it was a short bed c10, would be worth more ---- obviously.

Damn, $5k? For that price I'd part it out and get more....
I was hoping to get $7-8k when all said and done....and still have way more into it than that.

[71veronica]

IMO I think 3/4 trucks look better. Depends on the person I guess

[ksshane]

I would think finding a rust free truck in that part of the country would be pretty tough to find. If it were mine I would go back to the original color.

And if you dont mind waiting for the right buyer you might get what your hoping to get for it. Sounds like a nice truck

[95gATL]

Originally Posted by 71veronica

IMO I think 3/4 trucks look better. Depends on the person I guess

Me too.....they look tougher.
Bigger brakes, rear end, suspension, etc.

Originally Posted by ksshane

I would think finding a rust free truck in that part of the country would be pretty tough to find. If it were mine I would go back to the original color.

And if you dont mind waiting for the right buyer you might get what your hoping to get for it. Sounds like a nice truck

Yah, that's what I figured. I'm in no rush...if it takes a month, fine, if it takes six....ok. a year, well....

That's what I was thinking about the lack of rust. In the west, yes, I can see lots with little or no rust, but not on the east. Most trucks I see have HEAVY rust, swapped engines, and non-original seats. That's why I was thinking that an original rustfree example may be able to bring a decent amount of $$$ where I can get back some of my $$$.

AFTER FURTHER RESEARCH:
Here's a question: Why does NADA show these values for the truck???

Low Retail $ 9850 Average Retail $16200 High Retail $38500

and when I check the classic car trader, most trucks seem to be in the $10-20k range, only the custom trucks are higher than that, and a few beaters are in the $5k range.

I know that NADA is a "book value" and people can "ask" any price they want, just was thinking that the truck should be worth somewhere in the "teens" when it is done and maybe a cash value of $10k-12k when all said and done.

It all boils down to supply and demand. Is there not much of a market for a long bed, small window V8?

----and thanks for folks on suggesting the factory color. I believe it won't look as good as another color, but original might be better for the "collector" that wants a decent original truck without taking out a second mortgage.

[Carl Spangler]

Are you planning on doing the paintwork yourself or paying someone? Either way, it's a LOT of time/money to repaint a truck. JMO, but probably not worth the hassle/cost if you're just going to sell it.

Do you think you can sell it for what you have in it?? It's worth a try!

good luck
JohnG

[95gATL]

Originally Posted by Carl Spangler

Are you planning on doing the paintwork yourself or paying someone? Either way, it's a LOT of time/money to repaint a truck. JMO, but probably not worth the hassle/cost if you're just going to sell it.

Do you think you can sell it for what you have in it?? It's worth a try!

good luck
JohnG

believe me, I know that.
It really should be repainted, not to get "more money out of it" but merely to make it easier to sell. Many people don't like to spend a decent amount of money for a "project" or something that needs work unless they get it cheap.

Painting: either way, I have painted before, it's a hassle....but have a paint shop I've used several times before that is reasonable.

[leftybass209]

Your best bet to see prices is ebay vs Mecum and Barrett Jackson auctions. Ebay has people being more conservative, and the other 2 has people paying out the nose. Either way fully optioned c10 short bed examples aren't getting $25k very much anymore. Market is going soft unfortunately. Original color on yours is going to bring the most but to be honest if you have the intention of flipping it you may lose money.

[95gATL]

Thx. Definitely not looking to "flip it" just want to try and get back some of my cash I spent on it and out into it.
I think I have to get it in too shape because without having it that way I'm not going to get anything out of it and will be hard to sell.
Either way I lose.

[95gATL]

Heck if these trucks aren't worth much anymore, I may just respray the silver color.
1. It looks better than the aqua blue
2. Won't have to spray door jams, under good. Etc
3. The silver is actually cheaper

Really disappointed that values aren't there. People gobble up mustang converts (sold mine three years ago) and my 69 nova. I get asked if I want to sell it all the time.

[Carl Spangler]

Originally Posted by 95gATL

Heck if these trucks aren't worth much anymore, I may just respray the silver color.
1. It looks better than the aqua blue
2. Won't have to spray door jams, under good. Etc
3. The silver is actually cheaper

Really disappointed that values aren't there. People gobble up mustang converts (sold mine three years ago) and my 69 nova. I get asked if I want to sell it all the time.

Sorry, it really sounds like you (and the next owner) would be better off if you just sold it as is. You might be surprised at what it could bring in it's current condition. Some/many potential buyers don't want a freshly painted vehicle as paint can hide many sins.

best of luck whichever way you go
JohnG

[95gATL]

Originally Posted by Carl Spangler

Sorry, it really sounds like you (and the next owner) would be better off if you just sold it as is. You might be surprised at what it could bring in it's current condition. Some/many potential buyers don't want a freshly painted vehicle as paint can hide many sins.

best of luck whichever way you go
JohnG

That may be another option!
Thanks.
Keep the suggestions coming.

[ksshane]

I would also look at the trucks for sale section here to get a better idea of what you might get for the truck.
When vehicles get this old the only thing Blue book is good for is insurance purposes...lol Just my opinion

[JHT67]

I'm not a buyer, but I'd love to see some pics, I'm betting we pretty much have the same trucks.

[factorystock]

Originally Posted by 95gATL

It all boils down to supply and demand. Is there not much of a market for a long bed, small window V8?

There is a market, but a smaller market. There are those who are looking for value, regardless on configuration. Stay with the original color, repaints in other colors are usually turn offs to a serious buyer. Don't believe the myth: if its not a shortie, it has no value. If done right, buyers will come out of the woodwork. Here is a '64 3/4 ton restored with good taste: a good paint job, good factory seat upholstry and stock wheels and caps, bid up over 9K.http://www.ebay.com/itm/BEAUTIFUL-ST...p2047675.l2557

[factorystock]

If its truly a stock factory resto, it should look similar to this. From my observations, when it comes to factory stock 3/4 builds , there are less on this site than the fingers on your hand.

[95gATL]

Originally Posted by factorystock

If its truly a stock factory resto, it should look similar to this. From my observations, when it comes to factory stock 3/4 builds , there are less on this site than the fingers on your hand.

..........and it has the optioned "camper nameplate" on it.

[Grumpy old man]

I bought a '69 3/4 350 4 speed running driving truck last nite for $650.00 just to steal original parts off it and sell whats left

[DGulliver]

Originally Posted by Carl Spangler

Sorry, it really sounds like you (and the next owner) would be better off if you just sold it as is. You might be surprised at what it could bring in it's current condition. Some/many potential buyers don't want a freshly painted vehicle as paint can hide many sins.

best of luck whichever way you go
JohnG

^This..

I wouldn't spend money just to sell it. I would surely try to sell it as is if you already know you don't want to keep it. As others said, unfortunately, it's not one of the most desireable models for collectors. At any rate, I'd rather have an honest old truck, and paint/restore it the way I wanted it myself.

[Fitz]

Originally Posted by 95gATL

Hi folks....

What is going to get me the highest price when I sell it....? Change back to the factory BLUE AQUA...??? Or keep the silver color and respray??? OR another color???

I can look at NADA value all day long but really don't think a truck like this will be worth 20k-30k...?

If the truck had been built by Fesler, Chip Foose, Troy Trepanier, Stacey David, Jimmy Shine or someone like them with the reputation they have I could see 30k. But built by you? No, bunky, 30K is not in the cards. What the truck is "worth" depends on the buyer and if you think the receipt tally after restoration plus some profit for yourself is a fair price, you are in for a shock. You will NEVER get all of the money you spent on parts, interior and paint back out of that truck. So, with that said, build it the way you want it, the way you can afford it, the way the wife will allow you to build it and just be happy! These things are, after all, a hobby.

[Elliot949]

Here is my take on this subject... I have a 67 C-20 that my dad bought new 11/66... It is a 327 with Turbo 400, Factory A/C, P/S, P/B, Eaton 457 No Spin Differential...

This is the original Truck:



After my dad Passed away I inherited the truck... My Dad was always a hot Rod Fan but due to limited budgets my Dad never had the money to do all the things he liked... After I got the truck I talked to a appraiser so I could get a stated value insurance policy on the truck (which I should have done because the truck got stolen and stripped) the appraisal came back at 4500.00 and I was told that was being generous...

So after talking with him he said if this was a C-10 SWB in the same condition it would be at least double that (9000.00)... and could be closer to 10K... So I started picking his brain and asked him if I completely went through this truck and made a SWB out of this truck and "Hot Rodded" it what could I be looking at... He said there are a lot of factors in that but if it was done properly and was a "10" it could be as much as 30K... so I asked him about air bagging it and doing some of those types of things would that be better... He said on the open market Air Bagging would probably cost it about 5K on the total value...

So here I am today... Cut the Frame bought a new Dynacorn Bed from Classic Parts Of America... I am doing just a 4"/6" static Drop... This is where I am at today...



I have talked to the appraiser a few time since that day and he has been by to see the truck and says it looks like I am heading the right direction... I have him looking at the truck again the end of January to update the value for the insurance company...

[95gATL]

To those that suggested the original color. THANK YOU.

[Elliot949]

Originally Posted by 95gATL

To those that suggested the original color. THANK YOU.

Sweet Color....

[95gATL]

Yes. It looks really good. When I first starting putting it on, I had serious second thoughts.
After a few coats it is beautiful.
Have to wait for good weather again then will do the cab and front.

Heck. I may keep this truck after all....it looks like a million bucks and if I can only get $6000 or $7000 tops, it's makes no sense to sell.