57 Short Box 235 5sp C4

[svr]

Hello all, at Ogre's suggestion i decided I better start a build thread. First a little about me, old guy upper 60's, haven't done much of this kind of stuff since before i got married long time ago. Marriage, kids and business took all my time for all those years.
Now for the current project, my sons friend had done a lot of take apart and had started the body work enough you could see it wasn't near as bad as some of you guys start with but needed more. Was a running basket case, cab without doors that ran and got on my trailer. Heres a poor pic the day i drove it off the trailer into my shop.

[Az. Hank]

Welcome aboard
What are your plans for it?

[svr]

Wasnt sure just where i wanted to go the project but knew it needed cab corners, lower hinge pockets ect. Pretty regular stuff. The old 235 ran pretty good, you could see head had been off and probably redone at some point as the paint was gone on it only, probably at least a valve job had been done and maybe more hard to tell, good oil pressure, started easy cold, not hardly any smoke, decided to keep it, and add a T5. Old stock rear end had a lot of slop when i turned the yoke back and forth, pinion leaked and wheel seals leaked. I found a ford 9" from a early 70's pickup and plan A was to switch them and go with stock leaf springs and eventually give the front end a mustang II front suspension. Plan A wasnt a bad plan but being a guy that just cant leave pretty good alone I really wasnt happy with plan A. Watching the builds on the forum provided a lot of ideas and things to think about. Did I tell you my body work skills suck? I struggled along as I found more things here and there on the body to fix. Continued working on the cab, couldn't find a place to stop and before long interior was stripped, fuel tank, wireing and all, no turning back now. Sorry i'm not very good at stopping and takeing pics. Some time dureing the cold snowy winter reading build threads here and everywhere i could find them. The C4 builds really intrigued me, but had kind of pushed it out of my mind as being to much work and money. Then craigs list popped up with a complete rear suspension for a $100. Advertised as a 44 from an '87 stick shift car, next day i braved a snow storm to go see it, turned out to be a 36 from a '85 car, but for a franklin i brought it home and it was game on.

[Kim57]

Welcome.
Kim

[svr]

Guess i better add to my build thread and at least get a little more current.
After the C4 rear was found i went on the hunt for a front suspension, found 1 from an '88 so now I had the start of what i wanted. So next was to pull. The cab off and strip the frame of all unneeded parts and miserable rivets, was kinda crusty so off to a sand blaster to clean it up. looked at different methods and kits to mount both front and rear and decided to try and build my own mounts. With the help from several members here, a few do overs i got both front and rear mounted.

[svr]

Some more

[Kim57]

Looks real nice.
Kim

[BIGglaSS]

You're off to a good start!

[Daze57]

lookin good

[yossarian19]

Very cool.

[FAKKY]

Nice.
Subscribed.

[svr]

Guess i better continue the saga, the old 235 was crusty, greasy, and dirty. After much scraping, brushing, brake clean, and more cleaning i gave it a paint job, wish i would have had a little more paint at the time, seems a little thin inplaces now. Sants Clause brought a few goodies to bolt on. I made brackets for the alternator and PS pump, plumbed hot water to the intake maniflod. Made spacers for the carb tops so my air cleaners would clear and carb linkage to fit.

[svr]

Another

[svr]

Next came setting motor in to make sure everything will clear

[svr]

Nope that wont work, it will after i raised the motor and trans an inch

[svr]

Seems everybody doing a C4 R&P has to rotate the lines so clear, so after reading and asking questions here I undertook the task, wasnt to bad, seems to have worked, jury will be out until i put pressure to it.

[Kim57]

Engine looks real nice.
Kim

[akdg87]

Originally Posted by svr

Seems everybody doing a C4 R&P has to rotate the lines so clear, so after reading and asking questions here I undertook the task, wasnt to bad, seems to have worked, jury will be out until i put pressure to it.

HEY! ive got a 2003 gmc sierra rack and pinion in my truck, problem is the company that makes the kit wants $550 (with shipping to send me a new one). However i can go down to napa and buy one for $200 bucks but i need to rotate it 180 degrees. How did ya do it?

[svr]

Not sure what your R&P looks like, mine has 2 rivet kind of fastners that held the steel tube to the cast aluminum about in the middle. I undid the lines and teased out the rivets with a hammer and chisel, screw driver, vice grips and what ever was handy at the time. They screw in with very coarse thread, about a quarter turn and the come out. Then I turned the steel tube with a pipe wrench to where I thought it would clear, redrilled the holes in the aluminum side and hammered the rivet screw deals back in. Then I massaged the original lines to where they would hook back up.

[jjzepplin]

Very nice!

[svr]

A little more on the mounts i made for the rear suspension, plan is to use theoriginal leaf spring, some say they ride kinda hard, will take my chances. The wish bone mount and the pinion mount were pretty straight forward, dog bone mounts were a little tougher to make simple and look good.

[svr]

Another

[svr]

Side view with shock mounts, i created a small pile of scrap iron makeing these, several different versions i didnt like before i settled on these.

[svr]

Next detail was i needed to mount an oil filter, original was a cartridge filter that hung on the intake manifold. I wanted to go to a spinon filter, always hated the cartridge ones. The 235 of my vintage is not a full flow fiter system its a bypass system so special considerations were needed. So off to the Inet to do the research, Inliners, Tom Langdon, Deves Tech all helped to figure out what was needed, anybody interested drop me a line, i think i have it right. Made a bracket and found a place to mount it so it is accessable and out of the way. Bent a couple lines and made the proper oriface.

[Dan in Pasadena]

SVR - Everything looks great!