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Old 06-24-2018, 03:24 PM   #1
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Help - Distributor Won't Turn to Adjust

Been trying to set the timing on my L6 engine. It runs poorly, but it runs. I loosened the bolt holding the distributor shaft and made sure the little fork had free play. I can't for the life of me turn the distributor to adjust the timing. It's stuck. It's an awkward thing to grip with tools so I thought I'd check for ideas before I damaged something.

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Old 06-24-2018, 03:31 PM   #2
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Re: Help - Distributor Won't Turn to Adjust

Tap on the vacuum pot with a chunk of wood lightly.
Hammer handle will. Work.
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Old 06-24-2018, 04:49 PM   #3
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Re: Help - Distributor Won't Turn to Adjust

Spray PB Blaster at the base right there were you took the fork loose.
Remove the fork and use a set of good channel-locks.

Be very careful. Try one direction then flip channel-locks and try the other way.

You may choose to remove oil filter to give you a little more room.

Maybe it will work without that unless you need to change the oil anyway.
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Old 06-24-2018, 05:24 PM   #4
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Re: Help - Distributor Won't Turn to Adjust

How many coats of paint are covering the base to block mating area?

Run a razor around it to loosen it up.

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Old 06-25-2018, 11:30 AM   #5
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Re: Help - Distributor Won't Turn to Adjust

did you actually put a timing light on it yet or check if points and vacuum can are ok? cant imagine the distributors been in the wrong position for so many years that its seized in there
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Old 06-25-2018, 02:19 PM   #6
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Spray PB Blaster at the base right there were you took the fork loose.
Remove the fork and use a set of good channel-locks.

Be very careful. Try one direction then flip channel-locks and try the other way.

You may choose to remove oil filter to give you a little more room.

Maybe it will work without that unless you need to change the oil anyway.
I've been blasting it over the last few days. Sometimes a bit of patience helps but the thing still won't move.
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Old 06-25-2018, 02:21 PM   #7
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Re: Help - Distributor Won't Turn to Adjust

It moved two years ago when I last worked on it. I didn't get it running well but had to park the truck due to other commitments. Trying to get it going now. I'm baffled about why its stuck. Didn't do anything strange last time.
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Old 06-25-2018, 02:35 PM   #8
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Re: Help - Distributor Won't Turn to Adjust

Does it turn at all in either direction?
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Old 06-26-2018, 03:12 AM   #9
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Dissimilar metals will corrode together almost forming a type of weld. Have faith in the PB stuff.
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Old 06-26-2018, 12:13 PM   #10
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No. It's solid. Two years ago I did some adjustments and it turned fine. It's solid as a rock and I can't budge it...and I've got a very strong track record of "budging" things.
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Old 06-26-2018, 12:14 PM   #11
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Re: Help - Distributor Won't Turn to Adjust

That's a good reminder. Add heat and whatever crap has accumulated and you can get a pretty strong bond. I've just been blasting it when I get home from work and I'll see if it moves when I have time on the weekend.
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Old 06-26-2018, 04:22 PM   #12
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Re: Help - Distributor Won't Turn to Adjust

Can you turn the crank?
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Old 06-26-2018, 04:25 PM   #13
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sounds like the engine is frozen ? Smack it with a big hammer and upgrade to hei .
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Old 06-26-2018, 04:58 PM   #14
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Re: Help - Distributor Won't Turn to Adjust

Engine turns, dist doesn't.
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Old 06-26-2018, 07:32 PM   #15
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Engine turns, dist doesn't.
So the rotor rotates when the engine turns?
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Old 07-03-2018, 02:56 PM   #16
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Fixed it! Time and persistence paid off. I’ve been blasting it with penetrating oil every time I remembered. Today I removed the oil filter for better access and used a flat punch to tap wherever I could. Then I put a pair of vice-grips on the shaft and used muscle power to slowly break it free.

Now, just need to charge the battery so I can start it and set the timing.

Just another lesson in patience - one that I need to learn.
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Good news.
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Today I removed the oil filter for better access
Id pay to see this setup!
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Old 07-03-2018, 09:17 PM   #19
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Did the last person to R+ R the distributor forget to put down the gasket? Or was the old gasket glued down w/ RTV or ''supersnot'' [3M Weatherstrip Adhesive]?
If there wasn't one there, you need to get a gasket. The ID is about 1-1/8'' and the OD is about 1-1/2'' --roughly. I think it's the same diameter as the V8, but I coulb be wrong.
At any rate you need a new one. Put a dab of motor oil on both top and bottom surfaces before you put it down. Then you won't get this gripe again.
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