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GEARHEAD
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Any Turbos out there?
I've read more lately on turbos for small V-8's and was wondering if anyone here has built one or seen one. I've got a 283 now and really wanted to go with at least a 350. But I think this may make an excellent turbo motor application. There is a ton of space for the tubing and under the hood, short stroke, fast revving, plenty of options for parts. Just dreaming for now, but thats how all this krap got started to begin with.
HG
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Try spinnin 4 rear tars
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I saw a turbo on an early 70's Mustang at a car show a few months ago. I wish I would have gotten some pictures of it, sorry. This setup had the carb BEFORE the turbo, instead of after the turbo.
![]() To me, it seems that having the carb after the turbo would be a better choice IMO, but I'm not sure. Turbos on diesels are much simplier (don't have to worry about it running air rich (lean)) There was a previous post about putting a turbo on a gas engine... Do a search for it..............
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Turbos on V8s............Nothing new really. IMO fuel injected motors are more turbo worthy, but who am I to say....... There are two types of popular turbo setups for carbed motors. One is blow through which places the compressor before the fuel. The other is draw through where the compressor is after the fuel. Again IMO blow through is the better of the two. Tuning is key using a turbo in a V style engine. It takes alot of trial and error to keep the mixture right in diffrent climates.
One thing to keep in mind about a turbo compared to superchargers is also that the turbo will have spikes in boost that superchargers do not (tuning nitemare). The setups I have seen on V8s range from watercooled exhaust twin to basic air to air intercooled blow through. Its all what you want to achieve, looks or monster driver ![]() |
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how bout this one...2002 vette
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is that the leigenfelder(spelling?) twin turbo? If it is with race slicks it can do 0-60 in under 2 seconds.
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How would you like to change the plugs on that???lol
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A friend of mine had a early 90's Calloway Vette that had twin turbos. In 1997? the muscle car shootout winner had a Rustang with twin turbo (don't know if it was v8 or v6)
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i believe the linghinfelter vette was black
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If you want to turbo your 283 its not hard, but you really need an EFI system. Tuning a carb for turbo is a PITA for many reasons, mainly because the boost on a turbo is not static, and its hard to tune a carb for progressively higher boost. Carbed turbo setups usually only run good at full throttle under full boost. So, EFI is the way to go. After the EFI the rest of the setup is easy. You need to decide if you want to run single or twin turbo, twin is probably better for your situation. You can run a modified pair of shorty headers upside down, and get two Garret T3 turbos off junkyard dodges. run the piping with blow off valves into the intercooler (i'd use one) and then into the throttle body. You shouldn't have to re-map the computer with the FI if you run a low ammount of boost. I'd also recommend a good solid bottom end, forged pistons etc.
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Careful, they attack...
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How about this. A Bugatti 1001 HP quad turbo Veyron engine. It's a W16 engine. Published Hp is 1001, but tested HP is 1200! From a production car. Oh, and 1250 Nm of torque!! Would be fun if you had an extra million bucks laying around.
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Careful, they attack...
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Here is a pic of the car it goes in. I represent the company that provided the NVH equipment for durability and production testing of the engine.
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More turbo's!!!!!
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An inactive ember is working on a 67 short/step with a turbo that runs off propain.
If you have the turbo feeding the carb, then you have problems sealing it and making it take the added presure. If you have a draw through set up where the turbo suicks the air through the cab, then the pressure goes straight into the intake and never hits the carb. You would even have vacume at the carb. |
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Careful, they attack...
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Here is the one I want to build. It was in a 67-72 truck also. It was posted here awhile ago.
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Careful, they attack...
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oops, forgot the pic. here it is.
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http://www.toohighpsi.com/
http://www.jdhcon.com/Vette.html http://coolers.toohighpsi.com/ http://www.msvorinich.itgo.com/ I have been doing alot of research on the internet and have gotten quite a few parts already, to do my truck. Some of these sites are f*rd sites, but packed full of information with comparable engine sizes |
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GEARHEAD
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jmanz69, got any more pics of that truck?
I was thinking one large turbo would be easier to set up and maintain. The T-4 is sized right and one of the most common. The FI system is another thing. I'd love to have one, problem is, even picking up a used one is expensive and chances are the injectors would be too small, pressure regulator would be shot, the computer and wiring would be a pain, hek, the turbo would be the easy part. It's all mechanical. While I idle away the days waiting for my higher priority things to magically complete themselves, I'll dream of my twin turbo'd, overdriven, fat tired, nicely finished truck. I can almost see it sitting there in my heated, insulated garage, the lights reflecting off its new paint and polished wheels. It's full of high octane gas, the weather looks great for a cruise and my wife will still talk to me or at least take my calls after it's all said and done. Thanks everyone for the input. HG
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At least check out the toohighpsi site. He goes into great detail on how to install fuel injection and carb for turbo's. I personally bought two turbo's while I was passing through Texas for $100. Both seem to be in pretty good shape, now all I have to do is find the time to rebuild them.
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Just for those who are wondering that is a haltech system one of a kind. I help build the engine and turbo set up. it has a 24 lamans motor in it beefed up witch has 600+ hp. then we added the twin turbo system to it and it is not tuned yet. went to the dyno and wow 1100 hp to rear wheels. the guy has spent to date $135,000 and still counting. like I said it is one of a kind and the next add to it is a clear hood custom made.
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how does a turbo work it looks like there is not even any exhaust?
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Basicly the turbo has 2 sides.The exhaust is fed into the one side which spins the turbine.The other side is where the air is compressed and forced into the intake.
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