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How To Shorten a 60-62 C10 Frame
How to shorten a 60-62 torsion bar X-frame, as properly as you can, and still keep the X.
I have not found any tutorial on how to shorten these frame; most people either cut the X out completely, or swap to a 63+ frame. Another exciting bit of fun, is the frame rails taper under the cab, that is: they narrow at the front. While most people shorten the 63-72 frames under the cab, you cannot do that on the 60-62. Some say that the 60-62 trucks have the best ride quality, and attribute it to the torsion bar front suspension. I would attribute the better ride quality to a significantly more rigid frame. Though I'm sure the torsion bars spreading the spring rate along the front third of the frame could be a contributing factor. Undaunted, I have a Sawzall and a welder, and I'm not afraid to use them. Keep in mind, I am -just- a guy with a Sawzall and a welder, nothing more. First of all, there are three kinds of cuts you can do on a frame: ![]() Sadly, there really isn't enough cut-able area to do the optimal Z cut - there is ONLY enough room to cut out ONLY the amount that needs to be gone. So, you're stuck with the vertical cut, or a marginally angled cut. Just do straight cuts - with the extra legs of the X in the frame, it should be plenty strong. My current daily is a '77 Squarebody with a vertical cuts and it's been working fine (yes, I have hauled and towed stuff for years with it). Knowing where to cut is key: ![]() I welded eight legs to the frame with threaded feet so I could level the frame and then brace the snot out of it. I also removed the front four bed mounts, as the holes really weren't going to work easily (you will need to drill two new holes for the front bed mounts). ![]() ![]() Then I cut the sections out. I kept the sections to use them as fish plates. ![]() I used ratchet straps and the gentle persuader to pull the two halves together. I also used ratchet straps to pull everything to square, and lots of clamps to hold it all true. This is where the legs with adjustable feet come into play again - since floors are never perfect, I had to re-level the frame halves as they sat in their new location. It didn't need much correction, and the X is holding it in alignment very well. I got to +/- 1/32" diagonals for squareness. ![]() My frame appears to be a tick under 3/16" thick, which is still really too much for my Lincoln 140 MIG welder. It -could- be done, but there is something to be said about a welder big enough to do the job properly. I borrowed the Thermal Arc 210 Fabricator from work, which was awesome.The forward legs of the X will have to be pie cut at the top and bottom to bend the leg sections back into alignment with each other. I tried to heat-shrink them with a torch, but it took forever to get nowhere. Just slice them and bend them. ![]() I have a cheap eBay plasma cutter that has been working grand. Makes cutting the fishplates easy. I did the frame cutting with a cutting disc on an angle grinder. ![]() The fish plates will need a bit of bending, because of the shapes of the frame where the cutting occurred. I used a hydraulic press to bend them. Clamp them in tight, and burn 'em in. I lifted the frame on edge just for easier position for welding, but do whatever you need to do to make it work. ![]() Some say you should only fish plate the vertical welds and leave the top and bottom flanges alone. Others say you should fish plate all your welds. I'm not a welder. On my '77 I did not fish plate the tops and bottoms of the rails, and it's been sketching me out ever since. On this frame, I did tops and bottoms. Again, with the extra bracing the X provides, it will probably be fine either way. I'm also not an engineer. ![]() You will need to trim the fish plates to avoid the e-brake slots. ![]() I prefer to grind down only the welds that would be visible; don't grind anything you don't have to. ![]() And done, once I add the front bed mounts (use existing front hole, drill new rear hole): ![]()
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Re: How To Shorten a 60-62 C10 Frame
Awesome, great fabricating skills. Supporting the frame was a smart way to build a temporary jig for alignment.
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Re: How To Shorten a 60-62 C10 Frame
Thanks for the detailed diagram ! I was wandering when someone was going to shorten one of these earlier frames nice work!
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Re: How To Shorten a 60-62 C10 Frame
Great write up, thanks.
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Re: How To Shorten a 60-62 C10 Frame
Just coming back to add How to Shorten a Stepside Bed, for all the future web travelers who stumble in.
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Re: How To Shorten a 60-62 C10 Frame
Are you that shop teacher guy?
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Re: How To Shorten a 60-62 C10 Frame
I are.
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