US Property truck nomenclature tag - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

**raggedjim** · 12-24-2020, 04:07 PM

Bought a 68 that has this in the glovebox. Anyone else ever see this type of plate?

**truckster** · 12-24-2020, 04:52 PM

Only on every Army vehicle I ever drove...

**raggedjim** · 12-24-2020, 05:19 PM

Ha! I'm guessing it's nothing to get excited about then!

Killer Bee · 12-24-2020, 06:16 PM

probably a GSA truck, DoD branches would normally have their specific property placards..

please post some pictures of the truck, interested to see it.. thank you!

**raggedjim** · 12-24-2020, 07:21 PM

I will, may be a while, it's colder than Hillary out there...

**truckster** · 12-24-2020, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killer Bee

probably a GSA truck, DoD branches would normally have their specific property placards..

please post some pictures of the truck, interested to see it.. thank you!

Every one I've ever seen (and I've seen many of them) said US Property. Here are a couple I pulled off the internet.

**mr48chev** · 12-24-2020, 07:22 PM

I'd say that Killer Bee nailed it,

That's the government's piece of property ID for that truck. That was pre 17 digit vin numbers and for them gave them a better method of tracking it.

Now it is just an interesting part of the truck's history if you want to keep it.

**truckster** · 12-24-2020, 07:36 PM

I'm still saying it was military, not GSA. Admittedly, I wasn't driving Army trucks in 1968, but I've never seen a GSA with a data plate, only military vehicles. It would have been a utility vehicle rather than a tactical vehicle, though.

**jocko** · 12-24-2020, 07:51 PM

Interestingly, here's another member's 68 - with the exact same contract number... (not really legible below, but spelled out in his thread) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=407967

**raggedjim** · 12-24-2020, 10:06 PM

Hmmm, I wonder if they contacted a certain number of vehicles on each order? The strange thing is it looks like this truck has never had a spid label. Most of the trucks in the military thread do.

**special-K** · 12-25-2020, 11:08 AM

I think it's odd that the plate is screwed on. I know those plates go somewhere on military vehicles but I'm not sure I've ever seen them in place of the SPID. Would it be the military that would fasten these once delivered and not GM? The gov't and military COPOs I've seen had SPIDs that listed the special equipment

**truckster** · 12-25-2020, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by special-K

I think it's odd that the plate is screwed on. I know those plates go somewhere on military vehicles but I'm not sure I've ever seen them in place of the SPID. Would it be the military that would fasten these once delivered and not GM? The gov't and military COPOs I've seen had SPIDs that listed the special equipment

I can't answer about the SPID, but the tag would have been attached by the military when the vehicle was received and processed.

68 P.O.S. · 12-29-2020, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truckster

I'm still saying it was military, not GSA. Admittedly, I wasn't driving Army trucks in 1968, but I've never seen a GSA with a data plate, only military vehicles. It would have been a utility vehicle rather than a tactical vehicle, though.

Correct, I see these almost everyday. GSA vehicles don't have these plates.

**68 C10 Driver** · 12-29-2020, 07:17 PM

It is common to find these on all Government vehicles. They were still putting them on in 2004 when I retired from the military, but the Government was going to leased vehicles and owning fewer as a way to cut costs...using warranties as opposed to maintaining large motor pools and maintenance facilities. Being a green truck, I would suspect an Army vehicle. General Government vehicles (like GSA) were white. Air Force vehicles were Strata Blue, and I believe the Navy vehicles were Grey.

CG · 12-29-2020, 09:56 PM

I had a brass version of this on my first car, a 57 Chevy Sedan. It was a Navy car and the plate was screwed to the dashboard. I still have it somewhere around here (The plate not the car. Car was destroyed in my first car accident). Ive posted it on the board before.

I think its a neat conversation piece for your truck.

**'68OrangeSunshine** · 12-30-2020, 11:40 PM

They called them CUCVs. Commercial Civilian Utility Vehicle. I got qualified to drive them in '74. at MCAS Cherry Point, NC, I'd already had my '68 C/10 Stepside for a year.
Only differences were this one was a gray '67 stepside, w/250 L6, and a 3-on-the-tree.
Whereas mine was an orange '68 w/292 and 4-on-the-floor [SM465].
Feeling pretty much at home in the Government's rig, I downshifted from 3rd to 2nd coming around a corner on base.
The motor pool Corporal doing my checkride, yelled,
"Don't be hotrodding my truck, PFC!''
I guess they wanted to keep them a long time, so Low and Slow was the order of the day.

**special-K** · 12-31-2020, 08:45 AM

A 6cyl/3spd sure didn't like pulling around corners in 3rd. You were saving brakes and preventing engine lugging. Shift before the turn or after, big diff. I say it's best to shift down first. Better on clutch, too

**'68OrangeSunshine** · 12-31-2020, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by special-K

A 6cyl/3spd sure didn't like pulling around corners in 3rd. You were saving brakes and preventing engine lugging. Shift before the turn or after, big diff. I say it's best to shift down first. Better on clutch, too

Well it was the Marines... So a Motor T NCO going by the book, had no clue about real world operation.

12-24-2020, 04:07 PM	#1
raggedjim Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Murray, Kentucky Posts: 3,477	US Property truck nomenclature tag Bought a 68 that has this in the glovebox. Anyone else ever see this type of plate? Attached Images __________________ Roger '68 Short step - https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=849675 '69 ('70?) 2wd Blazer '70 GMC Jimmy 2wd '73 Firebird - https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=853203

12-24-2020, 04:52 PM	#2
truckster Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Orem, Utah Posts: 7,976	Re: US Property truck nomenclature tag Only on every Army vehicle I ever drove... __________________ I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man. - Thomas Jefferson

12-24-2020, 05:19 PM	#3
raggedjim Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Murray, Kentucky Posts: 3,477	Re: US Property truck nomenclature tag Ha! I'm guessing it's nothing to get excited about then! __________________ Roger '68 Short step - https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=849675 '69 ('70?) 2wd Blazer '70 GMC Jimmy 2wd '73 Firebird - https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=853203

12-24-2020, 06:16 PM	#4
Killer Bee Registered User Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Barber City, CA Posts: 4,809	Re: US Property truck nomenclature tag probably a GSA truck, DoD branches would normally have their specific property placards.. please post some pictures of the truck, interested to see it.. thank you! __________________ *I started out with nothing - and I still have most of it*

12-24-2020, 07:21 PM	#5
raggedjim Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Murray, Kentucky Posts: 3,477	Re: US Property truck nomenclature tag I will, may be a while, it's colder than Hillary out there... __________________ Roger '68 Short step - https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=849675 '69 ('70?) 2wd Blazer '70 GMC Jimmy 2wd '73 Firebird - https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=853203

12-24-2020, 07:22 PM	#7
mr48chev Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toppenish, WA Posts: 15,705	Re: US Property truck nomenclature tag I'd say that Killer Bee nailed it, That's the government's piece of property ID for that truck. That was pre 17 digit vin numbers and for them gave them a better method of tracking it. Now it is just an interesting part of the truck's history if you want to keep it. Attached Images __________________ Founding member of the too many projects, too little time and money club. My ongoing truck projects: 48 Chev 3100 that will run a 292 Six. 71 GMC 2500 that is getting a Cad 500 transplant. 77 C 30 dualie, 454, 4 speed with a 10 foot flatbed and hoist. It does the heavy work and hauls the projects around.

12-24-2020, 07:36 PM	#8
truckster Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Orem, Utah Posts: 7,976	Re: US Property truck nomenclature tag I'm still saying it was military, not GSA. Admittedly, I wasn't driving Army trucks in 1968, but I've never seen a GSA with a data plate, only military vehicles. It would have been a utility vehicle rather than a tactical vehicle, though. __________________ I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man. - Thomas Jefferson

12-24-2020, 07:51 PM	#9
jocko Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Godley, TX Posts: 17,975	Re: US Property truck nomenclature tag Interestingly, here's another member's 68 - with the exact same contract number... (not really legible below, but spelled out in his thread) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=407967 Attached Images

12-24-2020, 10:06 PM	#10
raggedjim Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Murray, Kentucky Posts: 3,477	Re: US Property truck nomenclature tag Hmmm, I wonder if they contacted a certain number of vehicles on each order? The strange thing is it looks like this truck has never had a spid label. Most of the trucks in the military thread do. __________________ Roger '68 Short step - https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=849675 '69 ('70?) 2wd Blazer '70 GMC Jimmy 2wd '73 Firebird - https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=853203

12-25-2020, 11:08 AM	#11
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: US Property truck nomenclature tag I think it's odd that the plate is screwed on. I know those plates go somewhere on military vehicles but I'm not sure I've ever seen them in place of the SPID. Would it be the military that would fasten these once delivered and not GM? The gov't and military COPOs I've seen had SPIDs that listed the special equipment __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

12-29-2020, 07:17 PM	#14
68 C10 Driver Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Kathleen, GA Posts: 651	Re: US Property truck nomenclature tag It is common to find these on all Government vehicles. They were still putting them on in 2004 when I retired from the military, but the Government was going to leased vehicles and owning fewer as a way to cut costs...using warranties as opposed to maintaining large motor pools and maintenance facilities. Being a green truck, I would suspect an Army vehicle. General Government vehicles (like GSA) were white. Air Force vehicles were Strata Blue, and I believe the Navy vehicles were Grey.

12-29-2020, 09:56 PM	#15
CG BlahBlahBlah Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wa. Posts: 20,019	Re: US Property truck nomenclature tag I had a brass version of this on my first car, a 57 Chevy Sedan. It was a Navy car and the plate was screwed to the dashboard. I still have it somewhere around here (The plate not the car. Car was destroyed in my first car accident). Ive posted it on the board before. I think its a neat conversation piece for your truck. __________________ … … … … … … … … ... … … … … … … … … … … …

12-30-2020, 11:40 PM	#16
'68OrangeSunshine Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Tucson, AZ USA Posts: 7,504	Re: US Property truck nomenclature tag They called them CUCVs. Commercial Civilian Utility Vehicle. I got qualified to drive them in '74. at MCAS Cherry Point, NC, I'd already had my '68 C/10 Stepside for a year. Only differences were this one was a gray '67 stepside, w/250 L6, and a 3-on-the-tree. Whereas mine was an orange '68 w/292 and 4-on-the-floor [SM465]. Feeling pretty much at home in the Government's rig, I downshifted from 3rd to 2nd coming around a corner on base. The motor pool Corporal doing my checkride, yelled, "Don't be hotrodding my truck, PFC!'' I guess they wanted to keep them a long time, so Low and Slow was the order of the day. __________________ Every 25 years I like to rebuild that 292, whether it needs it or not.

12-31-2020, 08:45 AM	#17
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: US Property truck nomenclature tag A 6cyl/3spd sure didn't like pulling around corners in 3rd. You were saving brakes and preventing engine lugging. Shift before the turn or after, big diff. I say it's best to shift down first. Better on clutch, too __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

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