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Old 10-06-2024, 06:26 PM   #1
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Correct lug nuts for wheels

I just purchased a set of wheels and when the guy at the tire shop installed them they used the lug nuts that were already on the car with the old wheels. Recently it seems like my lug nuts are not staying tight. Can anyone tell me if this style of lug nut is correct for this style of wheel bolt hole? Here is a photo of the nut and the wheel with the lug off of the wheel.
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Old 10-06-2024, 10:00 PM   #2
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Re: Correct lug nuts for wheels

There doesn't appear to be a properly formed lug seat on the rim. For either conical or spherical. And there's not enough hole clearance for the mag/flat style.

You can see on the second to last Pic. The lug nut on the right, the seat area is not engaged with the rim.

Probably don't want to be driving it like that.

Are the valve stems showing on the outside of the rim ?

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Old 10-06-2024, 10:13 PM   #3
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Re: Correct lug nuts for wheels

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There doesn't appear to be a properly formed lug seat on the rim. For either conical or spherical. And there's not enough hole clearance for the mag/flat style.

Are the valve stems showing on the outside of the rim ?
Yes the valve stems are on the outside of the rim. It seems like it has a very small seat. Like 1/8 of an inch wide. Like you said. It looks like there is very little surface contact. It’s almost like they were not counter sunk deep enough. I am thinking I should call the company that sells them. I didn’t see any lug nut recommendations on there website

https://www.uswheel.com/wheel/11993/...g/?finishID=12
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Old 10-06-2024, 10:36 PM   #4
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Re: Correct lug nuts for wheels

If you look at their Tech Guide (link at bottom of their page) on page 10, it says “conical seat lug nuts (Acorn)” - the taper looks pretty small in your picture… doesn’t look like enough room for a good fit with lug nut taper…

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Old 10-06-2024, 11:12 PM   #5
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If you look at their Tech Guide (link at bottom of their page) on page 10, it says “conical seat lug nuts (Acorn)” - the taper looks pretty small in your picture… doesn’t look like enough room for a good fit with lug nut taper…
Huh. Yah that’s what I was thinking. I never saw the tech guide. Thanks for finding that for me.
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Old 10-06-2024, 11:21 PM   #6
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Re: Correct lug nuts for wheels

I went to put the lug nut from the photo back on and to tighten down all of the nuts on every wheel. That was the only wheel where the lug nuts didn’t seem fully tightened down. The other 3 wheels were tight. I remember that the AAA guy had put that wheel on after I got a flat. So he might not have tightened it down tight enough. I had tightened them all down a couple of months before that. The only reason I was checking them is because I was hearing a clunking noise. I will have to give it a run around the block to see if tightening those nuts fixed the clunking noise if not I will have to get it in the air and check things out. With all that being said, the way those lugs seat is vary strange.
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Old 10-07-2024, 11:24 AM   #7
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Re: Correct lug nuts for wheels

I don't think those wheels are made correctly. They look like a step was missed in the forming process. The area around the lug hole should bulge to create the taper for the conical lug nut to seat.

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Old 10-07-2024, 06:54 PM   #8
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Re: Correct lug nuts for wheels

What's the deal with this gap?
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^^another really good point. Those wheels have to go!
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Old 10-07-2024, 08:32 PM   #10
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What's the deal with this gap?
I don’t think I have ever owned a set of after market wheels that had a hub that fit.
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Old 10-08-2024, 12:32 AM   #11
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Re: Correct lug nuts for wheels

Yeah thats the old hub centric vs lug centric, most aftermarket 6 lug wheels are lug centric with hub bores large enough to go over 4x4 hubs. I have ran lug centric wheels for years without issue but I agree with everyone that something doesn't look right with the lug surface on the wheel.
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