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Purs · 08-25-2005, 11:07 AM

what do you guys think? Do I have to much rake? I think I'd like it more with about an 1" or maybe 2" less. Very slight rake is preferred, Level is OK, but rear lower than the front will not cut it. These springs are supposed to be 4" drop but I'm thinking not. I'm going to try some different springs today.

Putter · 08-25-2005, 11:15 AM

I like it like that.....but maybe 1 more inch wouldn't hurt too much!!!

*FormerMember* · 08-25-2005, 11:16 AM

I like it like that as well. My stock one is too much.

Are those new springs? If so, they will probably sag a bit after some usage.

mocwon · 08-25-2005, 11:45 AM

Personnaly, I'd drop it 1-1/2" to 2" more in the rear after driving it a awhile if it doesn't settle out close to level.

redhead69 · 08-25-2005, 11:57 AM

I agree that it does not look bad as it sits now.. but 1-2 more down in the back would look just awesome. Nice truck btw.

tomatocity · 08-25-2005, 11:59 AM

I am agree with you, a little rake is good. What if you are going to haul heavier stuff?

Did you measure the height before installing the rear springs?

Frizzle Fry · 08-25-2005, 12:01 PM

Bring down the house

Purs · 08-25-2005, 12:03 PM

I did measure the stock height but don't know what I did with the numbers.....

Don't plan on doing alot of "heavy" hauling, mostly just hauling @ss....

71RestoRod · 08-25-2005, 01:58 PM

Nice truck. IMO, too much rake for the drop front. Get the gap between the tire and wheelwell the same front and back and you will have a perfect 1 1/2" - 2" rake.

HeavyD · 08-25-2005, 02:02 PM

I think too much rake as well.

70short/step · 08-25-2005, 03:04 PM

Put some bags of cement or something else heavy and then look at it. I think it looks good the way it is, but still think it would look better a lil lower in the rear.

**Canadian694x4** · 08-25-2005, 03:11 PM

Looks Great To Me!

mplex2000 · 08-25-2005, 04:03 PM

Looks like your back tires are fatter than the fronts....maybe that's pushing it over the edge. Most people I've talked to that have the 2.5/4 inch drop said their rear is higher than they like.

mplex2000 · 08-25-2005, 04:04 PM

BTW - I think 2.5/6 gets you level if your front and back tires are the same.

Purs · 08-25-2005, 04:11 PM

255/60/17's on 17x8's in the front and 285/60/17's on 17x9.5's in the back (ala Copperhead). I think the fronts are around 29" tall and the back's are almost 31" tall.... maybe this is why... thanks mplex2000.

Primered_69 · 08-25-2005, 04:34 PM

Also, is the bed wood installed? That could count for the higher higth in back.

Longhorn Man · 08-25-2005, 04:57 PM

I was going to mention the tire size. Also, the first pic exadurates the height in back. The sunlite coming in through the floorless bed makes the gap obviouse, while it is almost impsible to see what the gap is in front.
IMO, it look sbad ass like that...but I think rake is needed. I think cars and trucks look funny perfectly level...onless it is some plush girly land yaght like the town car I been reluctantly driving for a year now.

Dual quad · 08-25-2005, 06:41 PM

I think it looks decent, but a bit more drop in the rear would level it out.

Let us know what the wheel back space F & R is that you used, and also who the tire manufacturer is (Nitto?). I just did an ECE 4/6 drop and am probably going with the same wheel and similar tire combo as you (except 275/60/17 rear). The 285/60 tire is extra tall and adds to the rake issue.

Very nice ride!

**Stocker** · 08-25-2005, 07:41 PM

Nice truck! Keep some rake, but maybe an inch or so less than what's on there now imo...

69 longhorn · 08-25-2005, 07:43 PM

I like a little "nose down" attitude on the trucks, & say she looks good as is. I agree with all the guys, & will say again.....if you dont have the box floor in, i would do that 1st, & also let the springs "settle" a bit. other than that, I wouldnt drop that more that 1 extra inch on the rear. Im still workin on 1 more inch on the nose of my 69.....sweet truck, 69L

Purs · 08-25-2005, 08:03 PM

thanks for all the input guys. Well I just finished putting the "cargo" chevelle springs on and it actually raised the truck up several inches....

As far as the floor goes, it's steel. The only part that isn't there are the wheel tubs. I'm in the process of a mini-tub. So the weight won't be much different once I put them back in. Also, the springs were used when I got them so the "settle" factor may not make that much difference either. It's close to being just like I like it with the other springs. I guess I'll start looking for some 1" or maybe 2" lowering blocks. Anybody got some?

lamar · 08-25-2005, 11:17 PM

Hey what size tires and wheels? 17-9.5 rear 17-8..5 frt 285 rear tire/ Looks like a touch lower would be dead on level. Looks good, Lamar.

**N2TRUX** · 08-25-2005, 11:45 PM

Too much rake and too tall of a rear tire. Drop em both a couple of inches....

AesC10s · 08-26-2005, 12:33 AM

i like the way it sits.

69 Short Fleet · 08-26-2005, 04:19 AM

Is your swaybar already installed? Mine raised my front end @ 3/4"-1". Just a thought. Your rake tooks great to me, very nice truck by the way. Doug

08-25-2005, 11:07 AM	#1
Purs Got Big Block? Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: West Texas Posts: 1,510	to much rake? what do you guys think? Do I have to much rake? I think I'd like it more with about an 1" or maybe 2" less. Very slight rake is preferred, Level is OK, but rear lower than the front will not cut it. These springs are supposed to be 4" drop but I'm thinking not. I'm going to try some different springs today. Attached Images __________________ "Experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted." Last edited by Purs; 08-25-2005 at 11:10 AM.

08-25-2005, 11:15 AM	#2
Putter More Cowbell.... Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Puckett, MS Posts: 3,569	I like it like that.....but maybe 1 more inch wouldn't hurt too much!!! __________________ *There once was a member from Puckett.....Who ( fill in the blank blank blank* ) bucket**

08-25-2005, 11:45 AM	#4
mocwon Keep On Truckin' Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Buda, Texas Posts: 1,354	Personnaly, I'd drop it 1-1/2" to 2" more in the rear after driving it a awhile if it doesn't settle out close to level. __________________ Just Passin' Thru Some projects are like herding cats; others are like putting out fires; this one was like herding cats on fire.....

08-25-2005, 11:57 AM	#5
redhead69 fugedaboutit Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Gresham, OR Posts: 832	I agree that it does not look bad as it sits now.. but 1-2 more down in the back would look just awesome. Nice truck btw. __________________ Currently truckless

08-25-2005, 11:59 AM	#6
tomatocity Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Sacramento CA Posts: 1,255	I am agree with you, a little rake is good. What if you are going to haul heavier stuff? Did you measure the height before installing the rear springs? __________________ Got bored, sold everthing. Got bored, looking for a 1960-66 C-10. Want to build my last truck.

08-25-2005, 11:16 AM	#3
FormerMember Account Suspended Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,051	I like it like that as well. My stock one is too much. Are those new springs? If so, they will probably sag a bit after some usage.

08-25-2005, 12:01 PM	#7
Frizzle Fry Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hillsboro Oregon Posts: 6,449	Bring down the house

08-25-2005, 12:03 PM	#8
Purs Got Big Block? Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: West Texas Posts: 1,510	I did measure the stock height but don't know what I did with the numbers..... Don't plan on doing alot of "heavy" hauling, mostly just hauling @ss.... __________________ "Experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted."

08-25-2005, 01:58 PM	#9
71RestoRod Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Evergreen, CO Posts: 494	Nice truck. IMO, too much rake for the drop front. Get the gap between the tire and wheelwell the same front and back and you will have a perfect 1 1/2" - 2" rake. __________________ 71 Blazer / GMPP ZZ383 / MPFI / 700R4 / 4-Wheel Disk / Ground-up frame off almost completed resto-mod

08-25-2005, 02:02 PM	#10
HeavyD Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Wakaw, Sask, Canada Posts: 3,179	I think too much rake as well. __________________ "You can take the man out of PA, but you can't take PA out of the man"

08-25-2005, 03:04 PM	#11
70short/step Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Stockton, CA Posts: 1,579	Put some bags of cement or something else heavy and then look at it. I think it looks good the way it is, but still think it would look better a lil lower in the rear. __________________ For every person with a spark of genius, There are a hundred with ignition trouble. 70 Short/Step

08-25-2005, 03:11 PM	#12
Canadian694x4 Born To Lose Club Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Calgary, Alberta/Oxenden, Ontario, Great White North Posts: 13,306	Looks Great To Me! __________________ Brian Smith - "Born To Lose" 1969 Chevrolet K10 LWB Fleetside - Proud Owner For 20 Yrs - 1 of 208 Built & Sold In Canada! - 283 V8/350TH/NP208, 2" All Spring Lift, 32" Good Year MT/R's. 1972 GMC K2500 Custom LWB Fleetside - Proud Owner For 2 Yrs - 1 of 571 Built & Sold In Canada! - 350 V8/SM465/NP205, 4” Rough Country Lift, 33” Interco TSL Thornbirds 2007.5 GMC Sierra SLE 2500HD 4x4 - Proud Owner For 15 Yrs - 6.6L V8 Duramax Diesel/Allison 1000, 2" Lift, 33" Mickey Thompson MTZ's. 2008 Yamaha Raptor 700r - Proud Owner For 13 Yrs - ITP Mud Lites. 2015 John Deere 1025R - Proud Owner For 6 Yrs - 24HP Diesel/H120/54D/260B/SB1154.

08-25-2005, 04:03 PM	#13
mplex2000 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: DFW Posts: 463	Looks like your back tires are fatter than the fronts....maybe that's pushing it over the edge. Most people I've talked to that have the 2.5/4 inch drop said their rear is higher than they like.

08-25-2005, 04:04 PM	#14
mplex2000 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: DFW Posts: 463	BTW - I think 2.5/6 gets you level if your front and back tires are the same.

08-25-2005, 04:11 PM	#15
Purs Got Big Block? Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: West Texas Posts: 1,510	255/60/17's on 17x8's in the front and 285/60/17's on 17x9.5's in the back (ala Copperhead). I think the fronts are around 29" tall and the back's are almost 31" tall.... maybe this is why... thanks mplex2000. __________________ "Experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted." Last edited by Purs; 08-25-2005 at 04:11 PM.



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08-25-2005, 04:34 PM	#16
Primered_69 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Fort Worth Posts: 1,409	Also, is the bed wood installed? That could count for the higher higth in back. __________________ 1969 Chevy LWB - with shaved handles; 3 1/2 front/ 5 1/2 rear drop; (waiting to be put back together)

08-25-2005, 04:57 PM	#17
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	I was going to mention the tire size. Also, the first pic exadurates the height in back. The sunlite coming in through the floorless bed makes the gap obviouse, while it is almost impsible to see what the gap is in front. IMO, it look sbad ass like that...but I think rake is needed. I think cars and trucks look funny perfectly level...onless it is some plush girly land yaght like the town car I been reluctantly driving for a year now.

08-25-2005, 06:41 PM	#18
Dual quad Smell that burnin' rubber Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Ontario Posts: 171	I think it looks decent, but a bit more drop in the rear would level it out. Let us know what the wheel back space F & R is that you used, and also who the tire manufacturer is (Nitto?). I just did an ECE 4/6 drop and am probably going with the same wheel and similar tire combo as you (except 275/60/17 rear). The 285/60 tire is extra tall and adds to the rake issue. Very nice ride!

08-25-2005, 07:41 PM	#19
Stocker 20' Daredevil (Ret) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Jefferson State Posts: 13,593	Nice truck! Keep some rake, but maybe an inch or so less than what's on there now imo... __________________ - Mike - 1972 K20 LWB 350/350/205 RIP El Jay

08-25-2005, 07:43 PM	#20
69 longhorn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: rock island,il,usa Posts: 5,382	I like a little "nose down" attitude on the trucks, & say she looks good as is. I agree with all the guys, & will say again.....if you dont have the box floor in, i would do that 1st, & also let the springs "settle" a bit. other than that, I wouldnt drop that more that 1 extra inch on the rear. Im still workin on 1 more inch on the nose of my 69.....sweet truck, 69L __________________ http://community.webshots.com/user/hotrodhorn

08-25-2005, 08:03 PM	#21
Purs Got Big Block? Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: West Texas Posts: 1,510	thanks for all the input guys. Well I just finished putting the "cargo" chevelle springs on and it actually raised the truck up several inches.... As far as the floor goes, it's steel. The only part that isn't there are the wheel tubs. I'm in the process of a mini-tub. So the weight won't be much different once I put them back in. Also, the springs were used when I got them so the "settle" factor may not make that much difference either. It's close to being just like I like it with the other springs. I guess I'll start looking for some 1" or maybe 2" lowering blocks. Anybody got some? __________________ "Experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted."

08-25-2005, 11:17 PM	#22
lamar Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Covington,Ga Posts: 453	Hey what size tires and wheels? 17-9.5 rear 17-8..5 frt 285 rear tire/ Looks like a touch lower would be dead on level. Looks good, Lamar. __________________ 72 C-10

08-25-2005, 11:45 PM	#23
N2TRUX Happy to be here Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Cypress, TX Posts: 39,023	Too much rake and too tall of a rear tire. Drop em both a couple of inches.... __________________ Follow me on Facebook and Instagram @N2trux.com Articles- "Jake" the 84 to 74 crewcab "Elwood" the77_Remix 85 GMC Sierra "Scarlett" "Refining Sierra" Last edited by N2TRUX; 08-25-2005 at 11:45 PM.

08-26-2005, 12:33 AM	#24
AesC10s Chevy truck addict Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Thornton Colorado Posts: 825	i like the way it sits.

08-26-2005, 04:19 AM	#25
69 Short Fleet Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Kelowna B.C. Canada Posts: 1,086	Is your swaybar already installed? Mine raised my front end @ 3/4"-1". Just a thought. Your rake tooks great to me, very nice truck by the way. Doug

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