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*Billla* · 03-26-2006, 11:56 PM

I've always used the PH30 for the 350 in my truck, but the parts guy tried to turn me on to a PH5 - twice as tall, but reading tonight it looks like it has an anti-drainback valve...why the heck would I need this?

What are you using?

71swb4x4 · 03-27-2006, 12:10 AM

I am pretty sure any filter with a PH is Fram right? I quit using Frams quite a while ago. I haven't heard anything good about them.

Whatever you use get the one with the anti-drainback valve in it. It keeps the oil from draining out of the filter after you shut it down. This helps the engine build up oil pressure much faster, because it doesn't have to refill the filter on start-up.

**truckdude239** · 03-27-2006, 12:12 AM

i had a fram filter in my f-150 and the inside cloplosed and brew the motor before i could cut it off and fram would not buy to fix my engine

Longhorn Man · 03-27-2006, 12:24 AM

fram filters are junk. Cut one open and look for yourself. Less filtering surface, poor construction, just very low quality.
One of the best for the dollar is NAPA gold. Made by WIX. That's what I run on my stuff. There's better filters out there, but they get expensive though.

COBRO · 03-27-2006, 12:25 AM

There are better filters than fram for the money. The AC filter you have been using are good as is wix or purolators. There isnt a need for the anti drain back valve on filters that are mounted vertical as on Chevy V-8s - the oil has no where to drain to. When a filter is mounted horizontally then you need the anti drain back valve as the oil can then drain back into the engine when it isnt running and the filter will be dry so to speak at start up.:::::::CB

COBRO · 03-27-2006, 12:31 AM

Ooops you where not using a AC - quit using the fram and use one of the above listed filter brands.:::::::::CB

*Billla* · 03-27-2006, 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 71swb4x4

Whatever you use get the one with the anti-drainback valve in it. It keeps the oil from draining out of the filter after you shut it down. This helps the engine build up oil pressure much faster, because it doesn't have to refill the filter on start-up.

How could the filter drain when it's hanging down? That was my question about the drainback...didn't seem like it would be needed.

*Billla* · 03-27-2006, 02:55 AM

I'm kinda surprised - I've been using Fram since my first car and never had any problems. I'll pick up a couple of the other ones and cut them apart with my filter cutter and see.

I am still interested in the specific filters - P/N.

Good discussion - thanks!

Tx Firefighter · 03-27-2006, 06:11 AM

I run #1218 Delco filters. They fit any GM engine that I'd ever care to own.

al's71gmc · 03-27-2006, 09:20 AM

Wix- I don't know the part #, but the store does.

Willy Prost · 03-27-2006, 09:28 AM

Purolator.
Pure oil now, pure oil later.

lilred67 · 03-27-2006, 09:34 AM

wix 51061, napa 5106.... i think!! part #'s might be backwards..

wibilly · 03-27-2006, 09:45 AM

i run wix in my good stuff and fram in my beaters

jhwkns · 03-27-2006, 10:17 AM

The last time I bought an AC filter there were metal shavings all over it. I always wipe them off, but this one looked as if the parts of it hadn't been cleaned before assembly. I took it back to AZ. They most likely returned it to the shelf.

**truckdude239** · 03-27-2006, 10:48 AM

Purolator on the chevy and motorcraft on the ford i forgot to mention that

GMan69 · 03-27-2006, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilred67

wix 51061, napa 5106.... i think!! part #'s might be backwards..

That's #1061 for the NAPA Gold. Put a 5 in front for the Wix.

mplex2000 · 03-27-2006, 11:37 AM

WIX or STP, depending on if I'm at Autozone or O'Reillys. Both are great quality filters.

MrC1 · 03-27-2006, 11:45 AM

I've heard AC, Puralotor, Wix, Napa and Motorcraft are all very good. I usually try to buy Powerflo at Pimp Boys (when I happen to be near one) since they're just Puralators with a different label and they're CHEAP.

Fram actually has a reputation of having really good filter media. It's just that their drain back valves are poorly designed and leak. I've had a couple of bad experiences with Frams related to the dry startups and I'll never buy one again.

Good point on the vertical filter not needing a valve. Maybe Frams would be fine on these then.

71-longbed · 03-27-2006, 12:42 PM

the way sbc filter are mounted .. there no way it could drain out once its full ... am i wrong ? ...

i use ACDELCO and napa gold .. which ever store im at when i need a filter

Anyone else put strong magnets on the bottom of there oil pans ???
I have one on both engine and tranny

COBRO · 03-27-2006, 01:06 PM

Fram was a first class filter back in the old days,then the company was bought out and cheaper mfd.and parts were used to up the profit bottom line.There are issues with the ADBV and also the sealing of the filtering element that would cause oil to flow thru the filter without being filtered.There are people that run nothing but fram and get thousands of miles without problems so who knows. There are better filters out there for less $ than fram.Google bitog for bobistheoilguy site for info on oil and filters.:::::::::CB

Rdub · 03-27-2006, 01:23 PM

There was an oil filter thread on here some time ago that went on for 3 pages or so... I think on that thread someone posted you could use Wix #51794 which is supposed to be much larger than 51061. Can anyone verify this? Also, will filters that work on a SBC also work on a BBC?

lilred67 · 03-27-2006, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GMan69

That's #1061 for the NAPA Gold. Put a 5 in front for the Wix.

thanks,i new i had something backwards......

MrC1 · 03-27-2006, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COBRO

...and also the sealing of the filtering element that would cause oil to flow thru the filter without being filtered...:::::::::CB

Ah, I forgot about that issue. This was actually because the endcap is/was made of cardboard or a type of paper and would blow out if it saw any significant pressure spike. Once blown, oil flowed right through the filter w/o going through the media.

LUV2XCLR8 · 03-27-2006, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GMan69

That's #1061 for the NAPA Gold. Put a 5 in front for the Wix.

Thanks George

raidermanny · 03-27-2006, 08:12 PM

Using a Moroso here.

03-27-2006, 12:10 AM	#2
71swb4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brookings, SD Posts: 10,497	Re: What oil filter are you using? I am pretty sure any filter with a PH is Fram right? I quit using Frams quite a while ago. I haven't heard anything good about them. Whatever you use get the one with the anti-drainback valve in it. It keeps the oil from draining out of the filter after you shut it down. This helps the engine build up oil pressure much faster, because it doesn't have to refill the filter on start-up. __________________ Some people are like slinkies, they aren't good for anything, but you can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs. Last edited by 71swb4x4; 03-27-2006 at 12:10 AM.

03-27-2006, 12:12 AM	#3
truckdude239 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lewisville, Nc Posts: 10,237	Re: What oil filter are you using? i had a fram filter in my f-150 and the inside cloplosed and brew the motor before i could cut it off and fram would not buy to fix my engine __________________ David fuller Ase Certified Mechanic Click here to help support our board!! 1971 Chevy c-10 under going a 4.8l LSx swap Build Thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=421305 2007 Honda Accord my daily 145kmiles 2002 Honda Accord 4 door With 330k(sisters car) 2005 toyota Avalon 228k( brothers car) 2002 Sububran 5.3 245k 2000 Tahoe 5.3l 378 General manager for Marco's Carwash & lube

03-27-2006, 12:24 AM	#4
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: What oil filter are you using? fram filters are junk. Cut one open and look for yourself. Less filtering surface, poor construction, just very low quality. One of the best for the dollar is NAPA gold. Made by WIX. That's what I run on my stuff. There's better filters out there, but they get expensive though.

03-27-2006, 12:31 AM	#6
COBRO Active Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: RDM,Oregon Posts: 285	Re: What oil filter are you using? Ooops you where not using a AC - quit using the fram and use one of the above listed filter brands.:::::::::CB

03-27-2006, 02:55 AM	#8
Billla Account Suspended Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Monroe, WA Posts: 3,815	Re: What oil filter are you using? I'm kinda surprised - I've been using Fram since my first car and never had any problems. I'll pick up a couple of the other ones and cut them apart with my filter cutter and see. I am still interested in the specific filters - P/N. Good discussion - thanks!

03-26-2006, 11:56 PM	#1
Billla Account Suspended Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Monroe, WA Posts: 3,815	What oil filter are you using? I've always used the PH30 for the 350 in my truck, but the parts guy tried to turn me on to a PH5 - twice as tall, but reading tonight it looks like it has an anti-drainback valve...why the heck would I need this? What are you using?

03-27-2006, 12:25 AM	#5
COBRO Active Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: RDM,Oregon Posts: 285	Re: What oil filter are you using? There are better filters than fram for the money. The AC filter you have been using are good as is wix or purolators. There isnt a need for the anti drain back valve on filters that are mounted vertical as on Chevy V-8s - the oil has no where to drain to. When a filter is mounted horizontally then you need the anti drain back valve as the oil can then drain back into the engine when it isnt running and the filter will be dry so to speak at start up.:::::::CB

03-27-2006, 06:11 AM	#9
Tx Firefighter Watch out for your cornhole ! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Azle, Texas Posts: 14,162	Re: What oil filter are you using? I run #1218 Delco filters. They fit any GM engine that I'd ever care to own. __________________ I'm on the Instagram- @Gearhead_Kevin

03-27-2006, 09:20 AM	#10
al's71gmc 4 eyed fever Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Eureka, Nevada Posts: 500	Re: What oil filter are you using? Wix- I don't know the part #, but the store does. __________________ 1971 GMC 2500 4x4 1972 GMC Sierra Grande 1/2 t 4x4-#1 son's truck. Recently completed resto. 4 YO daughter," Daddy, I like your truck better than Mom's." (2000 F350-ranch truck) Smart kid!!

03-27-2006, 09:28 AM	#11
Willy Prost Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 398	Re: What oil filter are you using? Purolator. Pure oil now, pure oil later.

03-27-2006, 09:34 AM	#12
lilred67 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: weatherford,texas Posts: 1,003	Re: What oil filter are you using? wix 51061, napa 5106.... i think!! part #'s might be backwards..

03-27-2006, 09:45 AM	#13
wibilly Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: northwestern wi Posts: 2,111	Re: What oil filter are you using? i run wix in my good stuff and fram in my beaters __________________ common sense isn't so common anymore

03-27-2006, 10:17 AM	#14
jhwkns Registered Cruiser Join Date: May 2002 Location: Las Vegas NV Posts: 2,230	Re: What oil filter are you using? The last time I bought an AC filter there were metal shavings all over it. I always wipe them off, but this one looked as if the parts of it hadn't been cleaned before assembly. I took it back to AZ. They most likely returned it to the shelf. __________________ I intend to live forever. So far, so good.

03-27-2006, 10:48 AM	#15
truckdude239 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lewisville, Nc Posts: 10,237	Re: What oil filter are you using? Purolator on the chevy and motorcraft on the ford i forgot to mention that __________________ David fuller Ase Certified Mechanic Click here to help support our board!! 1971 Chevy c-10 under going a 4.8l LSx swap Build Thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=421305 2007 Honda Accord my daily 145kmiles 2002 Honda Accord 4 door With 330k(sisters car) 2005 toyota Avalon 228k( brothers car) 2002 Sububran 5.3 245k 2000 Tahoe 5.3l 378 General manager for Marco's Carwash & lube

03-27-2006, 11:37 AM	#17
mplex2000 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: DFW Posts: 463	Re: What oil filter are you using? WIX or STP, depending on if I'm at Autozone or O'Reillys. Both are great quality filters.



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03-27-2006, 11:45 AM	#18
MrC1 Dork For Days Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Dallas Posts: 407	Re: What oil filter are you using? I've heard AC, Puralotor, Wix, Napa and Motorcraft are all very good. I usually try to buy Powerflo at Pimp Boys (when I happen to be near one) since they're just Puralators with a different label and they're CHEAP. Fram actually has a reputation of having really good filter media. It's just that their drain back valves are poorly designed and leak. I've had a couple of bad experiences with Frams related to the dry startups and I'll never buy one again. Good point on the vertical filter not needing a valve. Maybe Frams would be fine on these then. __________________ 1972 C20, 402/700R4 - My first classic truck, bought in September 2005. 85% transformed from "Farm" to "Cool" status! 1970 Dodge Challenger 440, 4sp (my other toy) 12.67 @ 117 MPH, with a pathetic 2.022 60' 2007 Dodge Charger SRT-8 2008 Cadillac CTS All-American garage, baby!

03-27-2006, 12:42 PM	#19
71-longbed Its Magically Delicious Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: oregon Posts: 2,398	Re: What oil filter are you using? the way sbc filter are mounted .. there no way it could drain out once its full ... am i wrong ? ... i use ACDELCO and napa gold .. which ever store im at when i need a filter Anyone else put strong magnets on the bottom of there oil pans ??? I have one on both engine and tranny __________________ 71 C10 LWB 350sbc -TH350 12 bolt 3.42 Posi Of all my favorite things to do, The utmost is to have a brew. My love grows for my foamy friend, with each thirst-quenching elbow bend. Beer so frosty, smooth, and cold it's paradise pure liquid gold. Yes beer means many things to me that's all for now cus I gotta pee.

03-27-2006, 01:06 PM	#20
COBRO Active Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: RDM,Oregon Posts: 285	Re: What oil filter are you using? Fram was a first class filter back in the old days,then the company was bought out and cheaper mfd.and parts were used to up the profit bottom line.There are issues with the ADBV and also the sealing of the filtering element that would cause oil to flow thru the filter without being filtered.There are people that run nothing but fram and get thousands of miles without problems so who knows. There are better filters out there for less $ than fram.Google bitog for bobistheoilguy site for info on oil and filters.:::::::::CB

03-27-2006, 01:23 PM	#21
Rdub Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Portland OR Posts: 74	Re: What oil filter are you using? There was an oil filter thread on here some time ago that went on for 3 pages or so... I think on that thread someone posted you could use Wix #51794 which is supposed to be much larger than 51061. Can anyone verify this? Also, will filters that work on a SBC also work on a BBC?

03-27-2006, 08:12 PM	#25
raidermanny Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Fremont, Ca Posts: 260	Re: What oil filter are you using? Using a Moroso here.

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