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44th Miss Inf · 10-12-2006, 02:37 AM

My current truck is an 82 3/4T 4x4 with a 6.5 turbo diesel, NV4500/208C case 10 b front/14 b FF rear, 3.73 posi.

Just got home from a month overseas, and looking thru my parts pile, I have the following:
Another 82 3/4T 4x4 roller, same axles, etc minus front cap and doors, body in decent shape, missing a few odds and ends.

93 D350 Dodge w/ Cummins, and a rebuilt Dana 70 w/ less than 2K miles on rear (3.54 posi)
93 D250 Dodge (had a Cummins) w/ Dana 70 unknown miles 3.54 posi

80 model Chevy Dana 60 front end w/ springs, matching 14 b FF 4.56 gears w/springs(SRW)

Was think of one of the Dana 70s, w/ the 60 regeared to match, a Cummins, NV4500 and later 205 case. All I'm lacking is another NV4500 and the case. Thought of swapping some of my other parts, (about 7 BBCs, 80 model 4spd w/ 205) etc and build something like this, with possibly an 89-91 Burb/Blazer front cap. Truck would be used as daily driver, (reason for the 3.54s, plus the Cummins came stock with them) and also used to tow (pull a D5 dozer, and Kobelco track-hoe) a good bit, plus other things dealing with my father's logging company.

Would the Dana 70s be OK, or would I be better with one of the Corp FF rebuilt? Will measure the dually rear, if it is the same with, may use it, as I was given the receipts for the rebuild, and know it is in good shape.

Would like some of your input. The 6.5 just isnt cutting it any more, and was looking at the Cummins swap anyways.

Thanks
Virgil

Hoods69BadBowTie · 10-12-2006, 02:49 AM

Sounds like a good project to me. I don't really know much about the swap though.
-Later

earl87gta · 10-12-2006, 02:51 AM

I would use the d60 and 14bt just becuse you could trade out the 4:56 gears and get 4:10 or lower gears by trading them out and it wouldnt cost you any thing. or I would look in to trading the d60 for a doge one with the higher gears to match one of the dana 70s. If you rilly wanted somthing cool you could set it up like the new doges with the coil spring fronts.

44th Miss Inf · 10-12-2006, 04:27 AM

The Cummins swap is the easy part. Think I might have the intercooler figured out too.
I was thinking along the lines of getting the front gears from a Dodge with a D60 and possibly go that route, but not sure yet. Also, I think the newer Dodge D60s have ball joints instead of king pins. I would prefer the king pins. I know of a 92/93 Dodge Dually with 3.54 geared D60 front, but when you take the factory bud wheel adapters off, it is 2 " narrower than the Chevy D60. Trying to get him to swap gears with me, as he just uses it around his house, as he broke the frame on the rear.

earl87gta · 10-12-2006, 02:14 PM

thiers a guy here in knoxville that sells a crossmeber and motor mounts to put the cummins engines in chevys they look pritty good . I alway wanted to do that wap in to one of my trucks but cant convice my wife i need to buy a truck just to take it apart.

10-12-2006, 02:37 AM	#1
44th Miss Inf Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Liberty, Mississippi Posts: 671	new 4x4 project in the plans My current truck is an 82 3/4T 4x4 with a 6.5 turbo diesel, NV4500/208C case 10 b front/14 b FF rear, 3.73 posi. Just got home from a month overseas, and looking thru my parts pile, I have the following: Another 82 3/4T 4x4 roller, same axles, etc minus front cap and doors, body in decent shape, missing a few odds and ends. 93 D350 Dodge w/ Cummins, and a rebuilt Dana 70 w/ less than 2K miles on rear (3.54 posi) 93 D250 Dodge (had a Cummins) w/ Dana 70 unknown miles 3.54 posi 80 model Chevy Dana 60 front end w/ springs, matching 14 b FF 4.56 gears w/springs(SRW) Was think of one of the Dana 70s, w/ the 60 regeared to match, a Cummins, NV4500 and later 205 case. All I'm lacking is another NV4500 and the case. Thought of swapping some of my other parts, (about 7 BBCs, 80 model 4spd w/ 205) etc and build something like this, with possibly an 89-91 Burb/Blazer front cap. Truck would be used as daily driver, (reason for the 3.54s, plus the Cummins came stock with them) and also used to tow (pull a D5 dozer, and Kobelco track-hoe) a good bit, plus other things dealing with my father's logging company. Would the Dana 70s be OK, or would I be better with one of the Corp FF rebuilt? Will measure the dually rear, if it is the same with, may use it, as I was given the receipts for the rebuild, and know it is in good shape. Would like some of your input. The 6.5 just isnt cutting it any more, and was looking at the Cummins swap anyways. Thanks Virgil Last edited by 44th Miss Inf; 10-12-2006 at 02:39 AM.

10-12-2006, 02:49 AM	#2
Hoods69BadBowTie Chevys Kick A$$ Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Zootown, MT Posts: 12,699	Re: new 4x4 project in the plans Sounds like a good project to me. I don't really know much about the swap though. -Later __________________ HOODS is what I answer too -'79, '77, '88 Pickup Sold, '85 Camaro, '83 T/A, '81,'83,'90 K5 Blazer All Sold -'79 3/4 ton "Big Yellow Bananna" Lifted 4spd. 39.5 TSL Swampers, The money Pit -'86 K5 Blazer Silverado 6.2 4" lift 35"s -'95 Ext. Cab Shorty 4" Tuff Country rolling 35" M/T's -'83 Monte Carlo T-Tops. 126,500 Original Miles -LATER I would rather push a Chevy then drive a ford!!

10-12-2006, 02:51 AM	#3
earl87gta Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Kingsport TN Posts: 4,641	Re: new 4x4 project in the plans I would use the d60 and 14bt just becuse you could trade out the 4:56 gears and get 4:10 or lower gears by trading them out and it wouldnt cost you any thing. or I would look in to trading the d60 for a doge one with the higher gears to match one of the dana 70s. If you rilly wanted somthing cool you could set it up like the new doges with the coil spring fronts. __________________ Earl 68 2500 4x4 GMC Burb

10-12-2006, 04:27 AM	#4
44th Miss Inf Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Liberty, Mississippi Posts: 671	Re: new 4x4 project in the plans The Cummins swap is the easy part. Think I might have the intercooler figured out too. I was thinking along the lines of getting the front gears from a Dodge with a D60 and possibly go that route, but not sure yet. Also, I think the newer Dodge D60s have ball joints instead of king pins. I would prefer the king pins. I know of a 92/93 Dodge Dually with 3.54 geared D60 front, but when you take the factory bud wheel adapters off, it is 2 " narrower than the Chevy D60. Trying to get him to swap gears with me, as he just uses it around his house, as he broke the frame on the rear.

10-12-2006, 02:14 PM	#5
earl87gta Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Kingsport TN Posts: 4,641	Re: new 4x4 project in the plans thiers a guy here in knoxville that sells a crossmeber and motor mounts to put the cummins engines in chevys they look pritty good . I alway wanted to do that wap in to one of my trucks but cant convice my wife i need to buy a truck just to take it apart. __________________ Earl 68 2500 4x4 GMC Burb



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