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Blue85 · 11-03-2006, 06:22 PM

thanks glock, i'm just tryin to decide what building method to use, pole or stud frame. See the thing is, the shop i am dismantling is 27Lx18W, 2 27's and an 18 back wall, it had a full width plywood door on the other end. My plan was to use the walls and with carefull planning and some more lumber end up with a 35x27 shop. I planned this route because i woudn't have to buy as much lumber to keep cost down. But after seeing some pole barns i might go with a 30x40 and use the 27x18 old shop as an addition. i dunno what to do yet, i do know i have pretty much unlimited space, but not a bottomless pocket lol

86swb · 11-03-2006, 06:53 PM

Hey Bob. Did you see a deer must have run into the side of your pole barn and looks like he has his head stuck. Better check this out...

**Palf70Step** · 11-03-2006, 06:55 PM

I built a metal build shop on a slab, but I am curious about you folks that do pole barn/building, then poor a slab. How do the supports/poles stand up? I would tend to think that they would rot/deteriorate and make the building unstable. I am not very knowledgeable about wood structure, so I am curious about that aspect.

glock35ipsc · 11-03-2006, 07:01 PM

The poles are pressure treated and will last in the ground for decades. The poles are at least 4 feet in the ground IIRC.

**Palf70Step** · 11-03-2006, 07:18 PM

Makes sense. Just was curious. Of course down here they still get the heck ate out of them treated or otherwise. Thanks glock.

Blue85 · 11-03-2006, 08:03 PM

wonder about using old telephone poles

theres always people with poles for sale for like 2 bucks a piece

dalbers · 11-05-2006, 06:53 PM

my dad used old telephone poles, i'll see if i can find the pics later tonight when i get home.

ChevyCrazy67 · 11-05-2006, 09:55 PM

I've used old poles many times, although now my shop is all metal. The problem with using old tele or light poles is once they're pulled out of the ground after many years of use the bottom section of the pole (around the ground line) will rot faster than you think, so if you go this route be sure to cut out that section.

I work for a electrical utility and have a limitless supply of old poles, so far this has been the only drawback to using them, that and trying to square and plumb them. They also make good fence post.

Rollie396 · 11-05-2006, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue85

thanks glock, i'm just tryin to decide what building method to use, pole or stud frame. See the thing is, the shop i am dismantling is 27Lx18W, 2 27's and an 18 back wall, it had a full width plywood door on the other end. My plan was to use the walls and with carefull planning and some more lumber end up with a 35x27 shop. I planned this route because i woudn't have to buy as much lumber to keep cost down. But after seeing some pole barns i might go with a 30x40 and use the 27x18 old shop as an addition. i dunno what to do yet, i do know i have pretty much unlimited space, but not a bottomless pocket lol

When you first posted I couldn't help but think that 30X40 would be a bit small.
I think the idea of adding the old shop on as an addition is a great idea.
Besides,the price of oil is holding and there's lots of work to pay for it right now right?

Blue85 · 11-05-2006, 10:29 PM

Rollie there is lots of holes to drill, but the weather has been real crappy here (rain, snow, freeze, melt, etc) latley so we are constantly gettin shut down due to road bans.

Rollie396 · 11-05-2006, 11:29 PM

aha on the rigs huh?Yea I've been hearing the same story alot from my neighbour this year.

**Canadian694x4** · 11-05-2006, 11:35 PM

What company you work for Blue?

Blue85 · 11-06-2006, 12:23 AM

I work for Champion Drilling, i'm working 1/2 hour south of three hills, kinda wierd thinkin last year from april to september i worked in olds and never realized you lived there.

dalbers · 11-06-2006, 12:41 AM

my dad got the poles new from the electric company and used bridge planks for around the bottom. should last a long time.

dalbers · 11-06-2006, 12:43 AM

and a few more, i don't have any of it done yet, i'll have to run out there this week and get some shots

Blue85 · 11-06-2006, 12:48 AM

Looks good dalbers, Can't wait to see more pics

**Canadian694x4** · 11-06-2006, 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue85

I work for Champion Drilling, i'm working 1/2 hour south of three hills, kinda wierd thinkin last year from april to september i worked in olds and never realized you lived there.

Actually I didn't get to Olds until May of this year...

bobthecop · 11-22-2006, 05:58 PM

I am also wanting to build a shop, I live on 5 acres, so I have lots of room. I wondered the difference in price from a 30X40 to a 40 X 60. and is pole barn type construction as good as steel or regular house type framing?? and how much will it cost for the concrete floor. I am able to do a lot of the work myself, minus the concrete and plumbing. This is going to be a pay as I go project, kinda like my truck, I stay out of debt.

11-03-2006, 06:22 PM	#26
Blue85 Oilfield Trash Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Raymore, Sk, Canada, Earth Posts: 3,171	Re: Finally Starting To Plan A Garage(need some wisdom) thanks glock, i'm just tryin to decide what building method to use, pole or stud frame. See the thing is, the shop i am dismantling is 27Lx18W, 2 27's and an 18 back wall, it had a full width plywood door on the other end. My plan was to use the walls and with carefull planning and some more lumber end up with a 35x27 shop. I planned this route because i woudn't have to buy as much lumber to keep cost down. But after seeing some pole barns i might go with a 30x40 and use the 27x18 old shop as an addition. i dunno what to do yet, i do know i have pretty much unlimited space, but not a bottomless pocket lol __________________ 14 Dodge 3500 Mega Cab 08 Dodge 3500 Mega Cab 87 Chev 3+3 4x4 80 GMC K10 High Sierra bone stock 70 Chevelle 350SS long term project 68 GMC 3ton Grain Truck/Garbage wagon 50 Pontiac 2 Door Coupe Project "I've got a shotgun rifle and a 4 wheel drive and a country boy can survive" Hank Jr.

11-03-2006, 06:53 PM	#27
86swb Born a Chevy Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Navarre, Florida Posts: 10,221	Re: Finally Starting To Plan A Garage(need some wisdom) Hey Bob. Did you see a deer must have run into the side of your pole barn and looks like he has his head stuck. Better check this out... __________________ John or 86 (Viet Nam combat Vet-BIG RED ONE) '65-'66 1986 Chevy SWB Silverado 1984 Chevy Longbed Silverado New Kia Sportage (Wife's car and she loves it) CHEVY, American made w/pride! If you can read this, YOU NEED TO THANK A TEACHER! If you can read this in ENGLISH, PLEASE THANK A SOLDIER! GOD BLESS AMERICA AND BLESS OUR FIGHTING TROOPS Last edited by 86swb; 11-03-2006 at 06:53 PM.

11-03-2006, 06:55 PM	#28
Palf70Step State of Confusion! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gulfport, MS USA Posts: 46,755	Re: Finally Starting To Plan A Garage(need some wisdom) I built a metal build shop on a slab, but I am curious about you folks that do pole barn/building, then poor a slab. How do the supports/poles stand up? I would tend to think that they would rot/deteriorate and make the building unstable. I am not very knowledgeable about wood structure, so I am curious about that aspect. __________________ Bill 1970 Chevy Custom/10 LWB Fleetside 2010 Toyota Tacoma PreRunner SR5 Double Cab - DD Member of Louisiana Classic Truck Club (LCTC) Bill's Gallery Life isn't tied with a bow, but it's still a gift. Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God!

11-03-2006, 07:01 PM	#29
glock35ipsc Next project: 1970 K10 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colo 80524 Posts: 6,685	Re: Finally Starting To Plan A Garage(need some wisdom) The poles are pressure treated and will last in the ground for decades. The poles are at least 4 feet in the ground IIRC. __________________ *Bob* 1970 Chevy K10 LWB "Goldie" 350/TH350 *next project!!* 1981 Chevy C10 LWB 355/TH350 - My son's truck LS SWAP FORUM! Tons of LS swap info here! PLEASE CLICK HERE TO SUPPORT THE GREATEST BOARD ON THE NET! CLICK HERE FOR THE FAQ INDEX by KRUE

11-03-2006, 07:18 PM	#30
Palf70Step State of Confusion! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gulfport, MS USA Posts: 46,755	Re: Finally Starting To Plan A Garage(need some wisdom) Makes sense. Just was curious. Of course down here they still get the heck ate out of them treated or otherwise. Thanks glock. __________________ Bill 1970 Chevy Custom/10 LWB Fleetside 2010 Toyota Tacoma PreRunner SR5 Double Cab - DD Member of Louisiana Classic Truck Club (LCTC) Bill's Gallery Life isn't tied with a bow, but it's still a gift. Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God!

11-03-2006, 08:03 PM	#31
Blue85 Oilfield Trash Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Raymore, Sk, Canada, Earth Posts: 3,171	Re: Finally Starting To Plan A Garage(need some wisdom) wonder about using old telephone poles theres always people with poles for sale for like 2 bucks a piece __________________ 14 Dodge 3500 Mega Cab 08 Dodge 3500 Mega Cab 87 Chev 3+3 4x4 80 GMC K10 High Sierra bone stock 70 Chevelle 350SS long term project 68 GMC 3ton Grain Truck/Garbage wagon 50 Pontiac 2 Door Coupe Project "I've got a shotgun rifle and a 4 wheel drive and a country boy can survive" Hank Jr.

11-05-2006, 06:53 PM	#32
dalbers Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Cheney, KS Posts: 462	Re: Finally Starting To Plan A Garage(need some wisdom) my dad used old telephone poles, i'll see if i can find the pics later tonight when i get home.

11-05-2006, 09:55 PM	#33
ChevyCrazy67 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Dothan Alabama Posts: 2,604	Re: Finally Starting To Plan A Garage(need some wisdom) I've used old poles many times, although now my shop is all metal. The problem with using old tele or light poles is once they're pulled out of the ground after many years of use the bottom section of the pole (around the ground line) will rot faster than you think, so if you go this route be sure to cut out that section. I work for a electrical utility and have a limitless supply of old poles, so far this has been the only drawback to using them, that and trying to square and plumb them. They also make good fence post. __________________ Kevin 1967 C-10 swb fleetside 1968 C-10 stepside 1999 Z71- sons dd 1999 2wd silverado-my dd 2003 Tahoe- wifes dd

11-05-2006, 10:29 PM	#35
Blue85 Oilfield Trash Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Raymore, Sk, Canada, Earth Posts: 3,171	Re: Finally Starting To Plan A Garage(need some wisdom) Rollie there is lots of holes to drill, but the weather has been real crappy here (rain, snow, freeze, melt, etc) latley so we are constantly gettin shut down due to road bans. __________________ 14 Dodge 3500 Mega Cab 08 Dodge 3500 Mega Cab 87 Chev 3+3 4x4 80 GMC K10 High Sierra bone stock 70 Chevelle 350SS long term project 68 GMC 3ton Grain Truck/Garbage wagon 50 Pontiac 2 Door Coupe Project "I've got a shotgun rifle and a 4 wheel drive and a country boy can survive" Hank Jr.

11-05-2006, 11:29 PM	#36
Rollie396 someday it will be done! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lloydminster,AB. Canada Posts: 1,620	Re: Finally Starting To Plan A Garage(need some wisdom) aha on the rigs huh?Yea I've been hearing the same story alot from my neighbour this year. __________________ '72 C-10 Proud owner of a million new and used pieces that used to be and will once again be(god willing) a testament to the term "they don't build em like that anymore. '80 LWB 2wd beater '67 GMC long fleet (cab donor) '66 long step (parked till it's turn comes around) '65 short step (parts truck that will donate it's bed and possibly frame to the '66) '06 Grand Prix wife's car (she hardly lets me touch it) my pics

11-05-2006, 11:35 PM	#37
Canadian694x4 Born To Lose Club Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Calgary, Alberta/Oxenden, Ontario, Great White North Posts: 13,306	Re: Finally Starting To Plan A Garage(need some wisdom) What company you work for Blue? __________________ Brian Smith - "Born To Lose" 1969 Chevrolet K10 LWB Fleetside - Proud Owner For 20 Yrs - 1 of 208 Built & Sold In Canada! - 283 V8/350TH/NP208, 2" All Spring Lift, 32" Good Year MT/R's. 1972 GMC K2500 Custom LWB Fleetside - Proud Owner For 2 Yrs - 1 of 571 Built & Sold In Canada! - 350 V8/SM465/NP205, 4” Rough Country Lift, 33” Interco TSL Thornbirds 2007.5 GMC Sierra SLE 2500HD 4x4 - Proud Owner For 15 Yrs - 6.6L V8 Duramax Diesel/Allison 1000, 2" Lift, 33" Mickey Thompson MTZ's. 2008 Yamaha Raptor 700r - Proud Owner For 13 Yrs - ITP Mud Lites. 2015 John Deere 1025R - Proud Owner For 6 Yrs - 24HP Diesel/H120/54D/260B/SB1154.

11-06-2006, 12:23 AM	#38
Blue85 Oilfield Trash Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Raymore, Sk, Canada, Earth Posts: 3,171	Re: Finally Starting To Plan A Garage(need some wisdom) I work for Champion Drilling, i'm working 1/2 hour south of three hills, kinda wierd thinkin last year from april to september i worked in olds and never realized you lived there. __________________ 14 Dodge 3500 Mega Cab 08 Dodge 3500 Mega Cab 87 Chev 3+3 4x4 80 GMC K10 High Sierra bone stock 70 Chevelle 350SS long term project 68 GMC 3ton Grain Truck/Garbage wagon 50 Pontiac 2 Door Coupe Project "I've got a shotgun rifle and a 4 wheel drive and a country boy can survive" Hank Jr.

11-06-2006, 12:41 AM	#39
dalbers Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Cheney, KS Posts: 462	Re: Finally Starting To Plan A Garage(need some wisdom) my dad got the poles new from the electric company and used bridge planks for around the bottom. should last a long time. Attached Images

11-06-2006, 12:43 AM	#40
dalbers Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Cheney, KS Posts: 462	Re: Finally Starting To Plan A Garage(need some wisdom) and a few more, i don't have any of it done yet, i'll have to run out there this week and get some shots Attached Images

11-06-2006, 12:48 AM	#41
Blue85 Oilfield Trash Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Raymore, Sk, Canada, Earth Posts: 3,171	Re: Finally Starting To Plan A Garage(need some wisdom) Looks good dalbers, Can't wait to see more pics __________________ 14 Dodge 3500 Mega Cab 08 Dodge 3500 Mega Cab 87 Chev 3+3 4x4 80 GMC K10 High Sierra bone stock 70 Chevelle 350SS long term project 68 GMC 3ton Grain Truck/Garbage wagon 50 Pontiac 2 Door Coupe Project "I've got a shotgun rifle and a 4 wheel drive and a country boy can survive" Hank Jr.



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11-22-2006, 05:58 PM	#43
bobthecop Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Yukon Oklahoma Posts: 2,647	Re: Finally Starting To Plan A Garage(need some wisdom) I am also wanting to build a shop, I live on 5 acres, so I have lots of room. I wondered the difference in price from a 30X40 to a 40 X 60. and is pole barn type construction as good as steel or regular house type framing?? and how much will it cost for the concrete floor. I am able to do a lot of the work myself, minus the concrete and plumbing. This is going to be a pay as I go project, kinda like my truck, I stay out of debt.

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