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Anyone looking for performance suspension help/ideas? trailing arm
Heres is a pretty cool site ,there are others but just came across this one. "High performance" set up.
http://www.hotrodstohell.net/ Last edited by BigTruckDriver; 04-30-2007 at 09:19 PM. |
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Re: Anyone looking for performance suspension help/ideas? trailing arm
So is that basicly just a redesigned panhard bar? wish they had pics of it installed.. Still think i'm going to go with air rides kit...
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Re: Anyone looking for performance suspension help/ideas? trailing arm
Yea i see what your saying.. I just cant decide what i want to do on my back suspension... I really like the looks of the air ride.. Decisions decisions....
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Re: Anyone looking for performance suspension help/ideas? trailing arm
yep! What are you planning for your truck ,daily driver, show,high perf.,all the above etc?
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Re: Anyone looking for performance suspension help/ideas? trailing arm
I think the hotrods to hell setup is designed for coils. They have an article in Rod & Custom that shows the install on a tri-5 chevy. It's basically the same setup as the truck suspension.
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Re: Anyone looking for performance suspension help/ideas? trailing arm
I dont have anything like planed for my truck. Just a weekend toy, maybe some local shows.. I want a good ride, would like it to hook up when i punch it and to be able to pull a trailer if i ever need.. I like the ability to drop it so i wanna go with air ride. Not really looking to drop the frame to the ground though.. But i do like the look of the tubular items of air ride tech..
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Re: Anyone looking for performance suspension help/ideas? trailing arm
Yea thats a nice looking setup too... They are both comparable in price too.. The only thing that worries me about CPP is everyone's problems with fit of their products.. I know i've seen that their a-arms have some problems and i've heard that their c-notch doesnt fit really well. I do like the look of that x-member though...
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Re: Anyone looking for performance suspension help/ideas? trailing arm
Cpp's crossmember has the trailing arm mounts permanently attached to the crossmember. The unit that ECE sells has the mounts bolted on w/some HD grade 8 hardware.
If you're going extremely low, it's nice to be able to swap the brackets up-side down & side to side to regain some lost pinion angle.
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Re: Anyone looking for performance suspension help/ideas? trailing arm
I dont know if i'll ever go that low.. ECE's trailing arms look strong though..
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Re: Anyone looking for performance suspension help/ideas? trailing arm
I thought with air rides rear kit you could use your stock crossmember if you didn't like theirs. I thought I read that on their website.
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Re: Anyone looking for performance suspension help/ideas? trailing arm
When I spoke w/Tony about this @ GoodGuys Ft.Worth last year, he said the kit 'parts' would "eventually" be available individually. When that is I'm not sure (they could already be selling pieces of the kit).
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Re: Anyone looking for performance suspension help/ideas? trailing arm
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I can't speak as to the "stiffness" that the CPP trailing arm crossmember has, but I can vouch for the ART piece. Speaking from the experience I have had holding the part in my hands and installing the ART crossmember on my frame it is extremely solid and well built. It mounts in the same holes the factory crossmember is riveted in, and I made sure to use the reinforcement plates the factory used as well. I don't understand how you loose stiffness in this instance. So what, it's expensive. That doesn't make it an inferior product to the cheaper alternative, regardless of how badly you want to prove that point. </rant> Quote:
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Re: Anyone looking for performance suspension help/ideas? trailing arm
You have no arguement once more. I just have to LOL. You have no test comparing ART's kit to cpp or ECE or anything, yet you say ART is inferior.
the reason hot rod to hell's bracket is so big is because the panhard bar is adjustable on the frame side to allow for different ride heights and to keep the bar horizontal. Serious performance isnt going to come from an overly bulky panhard bar mount or a panhard bar 3 inches longer. Lets do some math. giving the worse circumstances for a short panhard bar, we'll say you have 4 inches of travel during hard driving. A bar that is 24" long will have a shift in the axle of less than .25. A bar that is 30 inches long has a shift of just about an 1/8. Big difference hunh.... okay so maybe your downtravel and up travel wont be the same, so lets say you have 4 inches of straight up travel. With a 24" bar you have just at 5/16 inch shift, with a 30" bar you'd have a hair under a .25. Again, big difference. Last edited by cajundragger; 05-02-2007 at 08:58 PM. |
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![]() Go ahead and lock this thread Mods. This thread was meant to give the people that wanted to get some performance out of their suspension ,not about how ART's kit is better then anything on the planet. Hot Rods to Hell set up is mainly for drag racing in case you could not figure that out. Last edited by BigTruckDriver; 05-02-2007 at 12:59 AM. |
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Re: Anyone looking for performance suspension help/ideas? trailing arm
Cajun and Big Trucker.... virtual pissing matches never work out!
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Re: Anyone looking for performance suspension help/ideas? trailing arm
Ok guys..... no need for the gloves
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BTD.... It seems the line between your opinion & some actual facts has been blurred & that's what seems to be getting everyone riled (if it can be called that). I like to hear what others think about parts because it helps to see another possible angle not considered.
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Re: Anyone looking for performance suspension help/ideas? trailing arm
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and I figure I may add...there is nothing high performance about a panhard bar. This is why drag car mostly run diagonals and road cars run watts, mumford, or parallel 4 link.. and Im not sure how this is a pissing match, sorry for not conforming. |
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