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Old 07-06-2007, 07:46 PM   #26
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Re: Which Muffler?? flowmaster or magnaflow

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Old 07-08-2007, 11:46 AM   #27
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Re: Which Muffler?? flowmaster or magnaflow

I have both and took the magnaflows off they were quiet untill you put your foot in it they are stainless wich is nice but I like the flows better.... The magna flows are outside collecting spiders now..
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Old 07-08-2007, 11:51 AM   #28
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Re: Which Muffler?? flowmaster or magnaflow

Something that I grew up with was the phrase, "If you can't make it run, make it loud!"

I have heard some vehicles that must barely be able to move under their own power.

Sounds like all the chatter has helped you decide what to do. Ain't that the nice thing about this site?
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Old 07-08-2007, 12:49 PM   #29
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Re: Which Muffler?? flowmaster or magnaflow

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"If you can't make it run, make it loud!"
I've heard that before too ... alot of LOUD cars around here too.
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Old 07-09-2007, 06:46 AM   #30
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Re: Which Muffler?? flowmaster or magnaflow

I'd check to see which has the largest CFM capacity/least amount of back pressure. The less restrictive one will improve mileage/performance a little. Also, there's a neat article about exhaust "scavenging" that illustrates the importance of getting the back pressure aspect right. Once I find the link, I'll post it.

Both my 60 C10 and 70 Elky have cammed 454s, headers and Flowmasters. I love the way the truck sounds and don't care for the way the Elky sounds. Other differences are the Elky has an H-pipe installed just aft of the tranny and sits closer to the ground, creating unwanted resonance in the underbody around 2000-2200 RPMs where it runs most often. The C-10 has 4" chambers out the back.

Unfortunately, I don't have specs on either setup since I bought the vehicles with the exhaust as is.
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Old 07-09-2007, 05:36 PM   #31
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Re: Which Muffler?? flowmaster or magnaflow

I have also heard if it dont run chrome it. However it does run but nowhere near what I would like for it to. And it does have crhome on the engine,So I guess its just a saying.
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Old 07-10-2007, 11:38 AM   #32
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Re: Which Muffler?? flowmaster or magnaflow

Couple of interesting charts I found regarding muffler sound/performance. Check out the Hooker Maxflow, looks like the best of all worlds.

First test:
The results in HP order:
1.Flowtech Warlock (open) 374.2 hp/ 333.1 tq
2.Bassani Real Street 373.7 hp/ 333.8 tq
3.Hooker Maxflow 373.5 hp/ 333 tq
4.Borla XS 373.3 hp/ 332.6 tq
5.Magnaflow 372.8 / 332.5 tq
6.MAC 372.3 hp / 331.5 tq
7.Flowtech Afterburner 372.3 hp/ 330.1 tq
8.Hooker Aerochamber 372.1 hp/ 330.4 tq
9.Bassani 372 hp/ 333.5 tq
10.Spintech 371.6 hp/ 332.2 tq
11.Edelbrock Performer RPM 370.9 hp / 331.3 tq
12.Borla XR1 370 hp/ 334 tq
13.Flowtech Terminator 369.5 hp / 331.3 tq
14.Dynomax Ultra Flo 369.4 / 333.2 tq
15.Flowmaster 369.4 hp / 331.8 tq
16.Flowtech Warlock 366.3 hp / 325.3 tq
17.No muffs 365.2 hp / 330.1 tq

Sound Off in Quietest to Loudest (Decibels):

1.Borla XS, 80db at idle, 90db at 2,000 rpm, 110db at WOT.
2.Hooker Maxflow, 80db at idle, 90db at 2,000 rpm, 120db at WOT.
3.Magnaflow, 82db at idle, 91 at 2,000 rpm, 114db at WOT.
4.Flowmaster, 82db at idle, 93 at 2,000 rpm, 115db at WOT.
5.Flowtech Warlock, 83db at idle, 92 at 2,000 rpm, 112db at WOT.
6.Dynomax UltraFlo, 83db at idle, 94 at 2,000 rpm, 113db at WOT.
7.Borla XR1, 83db at idle, 96db at 2,000 rpm, 118db at WOT.
8.Bassani Street, 83db at idle, 96db at 2,000 rpm, 120db at WOT.
9.Edelbrock RPM, 84db at idle, 93db at 2,000 rpm, 118db at WOT.
10.Bassani Real Street, 84db at idle, 96db at 2,000 rpm, MAX. (120+db).
11.Flowtech Afterburner, 86db at idle, 94db at 2,000 rpm, 115db at WOT.
12.Flowtech Terminator, 86db at idle, 94db at 2,000 rpm, 119db at WOT.
13.Hooker Aerochamber, 87db at idle, 94db at 2,000 rpm, 114db at WOT.
14.SpinTech, 87db at idle, 97db at 2,000 rpm, 116db at WOT.
15.MAC, 87db at idle, 98db at 2,000 rpm, 119db at WOT.
16.No Muffler, 91db at idle, 103db at 2,000 rpm, MAX. (120+db


Another test:
All tests via an independent lab
All tests @ 15” wc

2 “ Straight Pipe 283 CFM
2 ¼ “ Straight Pipe 365 CFM
2 ½ “ Straight Pipe 521 CFM

2 ¼” Typical Bent tailpipe 268 CFM
2 ½” Typical Bent Tailpipe 417 CFM

2 ¼” Inlet/Outlet_ Glass Pack Tips- No Louvers- Smooth 274 CFM
2 ¼” Inlet/Outlet- Glass Pack Tips-Louvered 133 CFM
Same as above set for reverse flow 141 CFM
2 ¼” Cherry Bomb 239 CFM
2 ½” Cherry Bomb 294 CFM

2 ½” Inlet/Outlet Dynomax Super Turbo 278 CFM
2 ½” Inlet/Outlet Ultraflow Bullet 512 CFM
2 ½” Inlet/Outlet Gibson Superflow 267 CFM
2 ½” Inlet/Outlet Flowmaster ( 2 Chamber) 249 CFM
2 ½” Inlet Outlet Flowmaster ( 3 Chamber) 229 CFM
2 ¼” Inlet/Outlet Thrush CVX 260 CFM
2 ½” Inlet/Outlet Maremount Cherry Bomb 298 CFM
2 ½” Inlet/Outlet Hooker Aero Chamber 324 CFM
2 ½” Inlet/Outlet Hooker Max Flow 521 CFM
2 ½” Inlet/Outlet Borla Turbo 373 CFM
2 1/2" Inlet/Outlet Magnaflow 284 CFM


Standard OEM 2 ¼” Inlet/Outlet 138-152 CFM
Standard OEM 2 ½” Inlet/Outlet 161-197 CFM
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Old 07-10-2007, 11:47 AM   #33
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Re: Which Muffler?? flowmaster or magnaflow

I have 3" 3 chamber flowmaster's and they sound good.
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Old 07-10-2007, 12:22 PM   #34
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Re: Which Muffler?? flowmaster or magnaflow

Had FM's forever and still like them. But I'm totally diggin' my Dynomax Ultra Flows and noticed power over the flowmasters.
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Old 07-10-2007, 12:35 PM   #35
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Re: Which Muffler?? flowmaster or magnaflow

I had Flowmaster 50s on my 96 GMC, have Magnaflows on my Dodge, and Flowmaster 40's on the 70. Of the three I like the Flowmaster 50's the best. 40's are a bit loud, especially in an uninsulated cab like the 70 has.

The Magnaflows sound good, but I think the Flow50's just had a bit more agressive sound. Both are mellow at idle, and get very agressive on throttle., but don't resonate you to death o n long drives (like my 8-10 hour staright cruises).
The 40's were on my parts truck and I just reused them on the 70, but I'll probably swap them out later on.
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Old 07-10-2007, 03:49 PM   #36
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Re: Which Muffler?? flowmaster or magnaflow

Magnaflow is made by Edelbrock right?? I think it's the exact same muffler if I'm not mistaken.
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Old 07-10-2007, 05:31 PM   #37
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Re: Which Muffler?? flowmaster or magnaflow

since you guys gave good advice on mufflers..................now what is your preference on duals coming out the back or out each side behind the rear tires? I have short bed with stock chrome bumper.
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Old 07-10-2007, 06:22 PM   #38
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Re: Which Muffler?? flowmaster or magnaflow

Thought I would offer my 2 cents. If you read this post from start to finish it is easy to see that it is more than which muffler is used which determines the sound. The sound you end up with depends on air flow which is impacted by the modifications to your engine, intake, exhaust type (single, duals) pipe size used, location of mufflers, muffler tip used and more. For instance I use a K&N air filter, have a performance cam, a RPM Performer intake, run dual exhaust all the way to the rear bumper, use 3" pipes from Hooker headers to the mufflers, have dual 40 series Flowmasters located right in front of the rear axle which again goes to 3" pipe and then into 5" Silvertone stainless 18" long exhaust tips. All of the piping was mandrel bent for a smoother flow. They don't call it an exhaust system for nothin.

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