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lyrikz · 09-22-2007, 09:21 PM

Today i was taking apart the truck bed and getting the project going. I want to leave the vehicle drivable while im rebuilding. Anyways, i get to just looking at the truck a little closer andi notice that there seems to be a litlte rust around the window area. this freaks me out because i would have NO idea how to fix this and i dont think the sell patches of any kind. Here are some pics. Any suggestioins?? Remove the window and see how bad it is??

beautimus · 09-22-2007, 09:43 PM

can you take a pic from a little farther back, and a little smaller resolution? i can't make heads or tails of where this is, or how much rust i am looking at.

franks72 · 09-22-2007, 09:50 PM

That looks like Its bein repaired befor with bondo. You might find some things you don't want to see when you dig into that stuff..

cdowns · 09-22-2007, 09:51 PM

start lookin for a new cab

lyrikz · 09-22-2007, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdowns

start lookin for a new cab

Do you say that on every post? I swear i have heard that before from you. This is one of the most rust free cabs i have seen in the NWest.

As for what your looking at, its the left corner of the windshield. I just did a search and found a bunch of nasty pics, nothing near mine. They were all repaired so i guess im not to worried now...

Ace in the hole · 09-22-2007, 10:16 PM

really depends on what you find under the bondo

**Palf70Step** · 09-22-2007, 10:19 PM

You may find more once you clean that out. It does look like it was bonded, but you won't know until you start after it.

Mine looked free of stuff until I pulled my windshield, then I had a bunch of little holes to take care of.

Hopefully when you get into it it won't be too bad to repair. It does take time and patience if you are learning to weld (or relearning in my case).

retselgerg · 09-22-2007, 10:36 PM

seen alot worse, dig out as much as you can make an estimate on how bad it is, if you decide its something you can do anything with (put back what you took out) bondo, is it on both sides or just one?

wibilly · 09-23-2007, 12:25 AM

looks to me like your gonna open a big ole can of worms there. i'm thinking she's not gonna take you to work for a few days once you open it up, unless your gonna where some gogels

jeffnohio · 10-14-2007, 07:28 PM

What did you wind up doing to fix that? I have some rust on the inside top of my windsheild, where the rear view mirror mounts and about foot towards the passenger door.. I am pretty much sure that this is about the best shape cab I could find around these parts up here in North West Ohio with all the salt they put down.. I have seen way newer vehicles with more rust holes in them.. So for now until I can find a better cab and be able to get to pick it up some where more south of here.. I just wanna patch the hole.. Could a guy just use bondo in it? I alreay hit it with a wire wheel and put down some stop rust on the exposed good metal ..

EAST SIDE LOW LIFE · 10-14-2007, 07:59 PM

First off do not fix right now!!! If your plan is to do body work in the future do it then. As you won't be daily driving your truck then.

Now about your cab!!!! This can be fixed. I think LMC sells a part such as this. I've also seen this fixed with the window in and out of the truck. You will have to dig that crap (all bondo out!) Bondo is not designed to cure rust issues. Now you can clearly assess the work that needs to be done. Trim the bad metal out cut narrow strips of metal and spot weld in with mig. Let things cool mig a little more let cool until your finished the weld. Use metal prep to fill and smooth things out. A touch of bondo should not need much. Zero rust both sides. ready to go to body work and your problem is solved.

esll.

EAST SIDE LOW LIFE · 10-14-2007, 10:23 PM

Lmc does not carry this type of part. So we are going to do repair 101 here. When you get closer PM me with what you find.

esll.

sea chief · 10-15-2007, 08:22 AM

Manes truck parts has this panel
http://www.manestruckparts.com/store...Category_ID=18

ChevLoRay · 10-15-2007, 09:57 AM

My younger brother just bought a '72 LWB, that has a little spot above the windshield. This part should get him out of trouble. Good info. Thanks for the link.

lyrikz · 10-15-2007, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sea chief

Manes truck parts has this panel
http://www.manestruckparts.com/store...Category_ID=18

Mine isnt that bad.. i will find out for sure soon once i pull the windshield....I started pulling the truck apart saturday and was picking at that area.. seems like sits just surface crap...

Dont want to pull the windshield just quite yet.

67ChevyRedneck · 10-15-2007, 10:35 AM

The area you show is a typical rust area. There are two seams in the cab (one on each side) that had a seam sealer in them from the factory. It looks like someone removed the sealer and put bondo in it

This area also goes bad if the seam sealer in the roof area is removed or cracked, water gets inside the cab.

Go inside the cab, take a small screwdriver and run it along the inside of the top of the windshield rubber. If you see a lot of rust and holes, you may have a problem, if not you're all good

Your pics actually don't look bad, sand off all the bondo. There is supposed to be a seam (it's clearly visible in the pics) and there is supposed to be seam sealer in there.

67ChevyRedneck · 10-15-2007, 10:41 AM

I didn't take a pic of that specific area, but you can see that there are a lot of areas where there is seam sealer in the cabs, here's some of the areas I redid... look at the one in the top of the door frame, perpendicular to the door, that one is very similar to the one at the front of the cab...

jeffnohio · 10-16-2007, 03:45 PM

Here is my rust area ... And thank you for the tip

09-22-2007, 09:21 PM	#1
lyrikz PITbut Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: monroe washington Posts: 3,042	Found some rust around window. Suggestions? Today i was taking apart the truck bed and getting the project going. I want to leave the vehicle drivable while im rebuilding. Anyways, i get to just looking at the truck a little closer andi notice that there seems to be a litlte rust around the window area. this freaks me out because i would have NO idea how to fix this and i dont think the sell patches of any kind. Here are some pics. Any suggestioins?? Remove the window and see how bad it is??

09-22-2007, 09:43 PM	#2
beautimus Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: woodstock, alabama, usa Posts: 938	Re: Found some rust around window. Suggestions? can you take a pic from a little farther back, and a little smaller resolution? i can't make heads or tails of where this is, or how much rust i am looking at. __________________ i survived cancer and kidney stones, but my kids are killing me.

09-22-2007, 09:50 PM	#3
franks72 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Wilmington DE Posts: 218	Re: Found some rust around window. Suggestions? That looks like Its bein repaired befor with bondo. You might find some things you don't want to see when you dig into that stuff..

09-22-2007, 09:51 PM	#4
cdowns Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: daytonabeach Posts: 22,956	Re: Found some rust around window. Suggestions? start lookin for a new cab __________________ 71c-10 350/2004r/4:11 lowered3/4 longbed/dead by hurricane MEANING OF DEATH::::: SOMEBODY ELSE GETS YOUR STUFF DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU THINK TAKE MY ADVISE;I DON'T USE IT ANYWAY

09-22-2007, 10:16 PM	#6
Ace in the hole Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Kalamazoo, Michigan, USA Posts: 538	Re: Found some rust around window. Suggestions? really depends on what you find under the bondo __________________ 1970 K20, 350--- SOLD 05 silverado extended cab short box- duramax Jeep wrangler unlimited

09-22-2007, 10:19 PM	#7
Palf70Step State of Confusion! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gulfport, MS USA Posts: 46,761	Re: Found some rust around window. Suggestions? You may find more once you clean that out. It does look like it was bonded, but you won't know until you start after it. Mine looked free of stuff until I pulled my windshield, then I had a bunch of little holes to take care of. Hopefully when you get into it it won't be too bad to repair. It does take time and patience if you are learning to weld (or relearning in my case). __________________ Bill 1970 Chevy Custom/10 LWB Fleetside 2010 Toyota Tacoma PreRunner SR5 Double Cab - DD Member of Louisiana Classic Truck Club (LCTC) Bill's Gallery Life isn't tied with a bow, but it's still a gift. Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God!

09-22-2007, 10:36 PM	#8
retselgerg Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Grundy Virginia Posts: 385	Re: Found some rust around window. Suggestions? seen alot worse, dig out as much as you can make an estimate on how bad it is, if you decide its something you can do anything with (put back what you took out) bondo, is it on both sides or just one? __________________ "OLE BLUE" Goodwrench 350, 5speed, Tilt, PS, PB, "some guys got into cars for money or girls but i got into cars because of the cars" -Jay Leno

09-23-2007, 12:25 AM	#9
wibilly Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: northwestern wi Posts: 2,111	Re: Found some rust around window. Suggestions? looks to me like your gonna open a big ole can of worms there. i'm thinking she's not gonna take you to work for a few days once you open it up, unless your gonna where some gogels __________________ common sense isn't so common anymore

10-14-2007, 07:28 PM	#10
jeffnohio Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NW Ohio Posts: 58	Re: Found some rust around window. Suggestions? What did you wind up doing to fix that? I have some rust on the inside top of my windsheild, where the rear view mirror mounts and about foot towards the passenger door.. I am pretty much sure that this is about the best shape cab I could find around these parts up here in North West Ohio with all the salt they put down.. I have seen way newer vehicles with more rust holes in them.. So for now until I can find a better cab and be able to get to pick it up some where more south of here.. I just wanna patch the hole.. Could a guy just use bondo in it? I alreay hit it with a wire wheel and put down some stop rust on the exposed good metal .. __________________ Jeff 1967 GMC 3/4ton LWB, Orginal Straight 6, 4 on the floor Project truck

10-14-2007, 07:59 PM	#11
EAST SIDE LOW LIFE Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: VANCOUVER ISLAND, B.C., Canada Posts: 1,602	Re: Found some rust around window. Suggestions? First off do not fix right now!!! If your plan is to do body work in the future do it then. As you won't be daily driving your truck then. Now about your cab!!!! This can be fixed. I think LMC sells a part such as this. I've also seen this fixed with the window in and out of the truck. You will have to dig that crap (all bondo out!) Bondo is not designed to cure rust issues. Now you can clearly assess the work that needs to be done. Trim the bad metal out cut narrow strips of metal and spot weld in with mig. Let things cool mig a little more let cool until your finished the weld. Use metal prep to fill and smooth things out. A touch of bondo should not need much. Zero rust both sides. ready to go to body work and your problem is solved. esll. __________________ Tomorrow is for doing today's stuff. ************************************* This truck has just the right amount of energy for me! Author: Warren Lake .... (member) Last edited by EAST SIDE LOW LIFE; 10-14-2007 at 07:59 PM.

10-14-2007, 10:23 PM	#12
EAST SIDE LOW LIFE Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: VANCOUVER ISLAND, B.C., Canada Posts: 1,602	Re: Found some rust around window. Suggestions? Lmc does not carry this type of part. So we are going to do repair 101 here. When you get closer PM me with what you find. esll. __________________ Tomorrow is for doing today's stuff. ************************************* This truck has just the right amount of energy for me! Author: Warren Lake .... (member)

10-15-2007, 08:22 AM	#13
sea chief Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: vermont Posts: 27	Re: Found some rust around window. Suggestions? Manes truck parts has this panel http://www.manestruckparts.com/store...Category_ID=18 __________________ 1967 K-20, 1969 K-20, 1970 C-30 dump,1971 K-20 1972 K-20, 1972 C-10, 1968 Grandprix John Deere 350c Dozer, 3414 International backhoe 1972 International 1600 Flatbed

10-15-2007, 09:57 AM	#14
ChevLoRay Old Skool Club Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Benton, AR "The Heart of Arkansas" Posts: 10,880	Re: Found some rust around window. Suggestions? My younger brother just bought a '72 LWB, that has a little spot above the windshield. This part should get him out of trouble. Good info. Thanks for the link. __________________ Member Nr. 2770 '96 GMC Sportside; 4.3/SLT - Daily driven....constantly needs washed. '69 C-10 SWB; 350/TH400 - in limbo The older I get, the better I was.

10-15-2007, 10:35 AM	#16
67ChevyRedneck Hittin E-Z Street on Mud Tires Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 23,090	Re: Found some rust around window. Suggestions? The area you show is a typical rust area. There are two seams in the cab (one on each side) that had a seam sealer in them from the factory. It looks like someone removed the sealer and put bondo in it This area also goes bad if the seam sealer in the roof area is removed or cracked, water gets inside the cab. Go inside the cab, take a small screwdriver and run it along the inside of the top of the windshield rubber. If you see a lot of rust and holes, you may have a problem, if not you're all good Your pics actually don't look bad, sand off all the bondo. There is supposed to be a seam (it's clearly visible in the pics) and there is supposed to be seam sealer in there. __________________ Jesse James 1967 C10 SWB Stepside: 350/700R4/3.73 1965 Ford Mustang: 289/T5-5spd/3.25 Trac-Loc 1968 Pontiac Firebird: Project Fire Chicken! 2015 Silverado Double Cab 5.3L Z71 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4.0L 5spd 2020 Chevrolet Equinox Premium 2.0L Turbo 2011 Mustang V6 ~ Wife's ride American Born, Country by the Grace of God 1967 CST Shop Truck Rebuild! My 1967 C-10 Build Thread My Vintage Air A/C Install Project "On a Dime" Trying my hand at Home Renovation! 1965 Mustang Modifications!

10-15-2007, 10:41 AM	#17
67ChevyRedneck Hittin E-Z Street on Mud Tires Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 23,090	Re: Found some rust around window. Suggestions? I didn't take a pic of that specific area, but you can see that there are a lot of areas where there is seam sealer in the cabs, here's some of the areas I redid... look at the one in the top of the door frame, perpendicular to the door, that one is very similar to the one at the front of the cab... __________________ Jesse James 1967 C10 SWB Stepside: 350/700R4/3.73 1965 Ford Mustang: 289/T5-5spd/3.25 Trac-Loc 1968 Pontiac Firebird: Project Fire Chicken! 2015 Silverado Double Cab 5.3L Z71 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4.0L 5spd 2020 Chevrolet Equinox Premium 2.0L Turbo 2011 Mustang V6 ~ Wife's ride American Born, Country by the Grace of God 1967 CST Shop Truck Rebuild! My 1967 C-10 Build Thread My Vintage Air A/C Install Project "On a Dime" Trying my hand at Home Renovation! 1965 Mustang Modifications! Last edited by 67ChevyRedneck; 10-15-2007 at 10:42 AM.



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10-16-2007, 03:45 PM	#18
jeffnohio Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NW Ohio Posts: 58	Re: Found some rust around window. Suggestions? Here is my rust area ... And thank you for the tip __________________ Jeff 1967 GMC 3/4ton LWB, Orginal Straight 6, 4 on the floor Project truck

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