Our '66 Short Fleet Build

[scotts62]

Originally Posted by joe231

yeah they are cool....aluminized pipe...think maybe you could polish it up nice.

Hey Joe i have some aluminum polish they use to polish semi tanks, some how it jumped into my tool box when i worked at freightliner....
Bring that pipe with you tomorrow and ill get the polish so when you bring cab you can try it.

[joe231]

Originally Posted by TimE

Oooohhhh...PPG! Good stuff but kinda pricey! I cheaped out and bought a gallon of the Omni.

thanks man, now you tell me....what is omni, and where do you get it??

Originally Posted by scotts62

Hey Joe i have some aluminum polish they use to polish semi tanks, some how it jumped into my tool box when i worked at freightliner....
Bring that pipe with you tomorrow and ill get the polish so when you bring cab you can try it.

cool!! will do

[TimE]

The Omni is a cheaper line of PPG stuff. Similar to Shop Line. From what I understand(and I may be wrong) it is an older formulation that was used prior to the DPLF90. BTW, the 'LF' stands for lead free.

I bought it from a semi-local PPG distributor. Went in and asked for the DPLF90 and he quoted me the price and that started a lengthy discussion. He explained it as basically you had "good, better and best" with the PPG being "best" and the Omni being "better". I opted for the Omni. He even offered to tint it for me if I wanted(was thinking about the light blue suede at the time) but I didn't.

If anyone knows more about this, feel free to jump in. The info above is what I have read online and been told so it may not be completely accurate.

[protrash64]

Originally Posted by TimE

The Omni is a cheaper line of PPG stuff. Similar to Shop Line. From what I understand(and I may be wrong) it is an older formulation that was used prior to the DPLF90. BTW, the 'LF' stands for lead free.

I bought it from a semi-local PPG distributor. Went in and asked for the DPLF90 and he quoted me the price and that started a lengthy discussion. He explained it as basically you had "good, better and best" with the PPG being "best" and the Omni being "better". I opted for the Omni. He even offered to tint it for me if I wanted(was thinking about the light blue suede at the time) but I didn't.

If anyone knows more about this, feel free to jump in. The info above is what I have read online and been told so it may not be completely accurate.

This is what I meant when I told Joe he'd be saying.....my friend had been thru it a couple of times and got me squared away.

[FreeRideYZ250]

Originally Posted by TimE

The Omni is a cheaper line of PPG stuff. Similar to Shop Line. From what I understand(and I may be wrong) it is an older formulation that was used prior to the DPLF90. BTW, the 'LF' stands for lead free.

I bought it from a semi-local PPG distributor. Went in and asked for the DPLF90 and he quoted me the price and that started a lengthy discussion. He explained it as basically you had "good, better and best" with the PPG being "best" and the Omni being "better". I opted for the Omni. He even offered to tint it for me if I wanted(was thinking about the light blue suede at the time) but I didn't.

If anyone knows more about this, feel free to jump in. The info above is what I have read online and been told so it may not be completely accurate.

I am using both products on my build. Using the DP 60 for parts that I will not be top coating for some time. Until truck is completely ready for paint.

Using omni on suspension parts and whatever else might see some wear and tear.

Omni was $27 for a the quart set up. DP is $83 for the quart set up.

Kind of wish I would of bought a gallon of DP to begin with, as I have already sprayed up two quarts. At the time I bought it, I didn't want to spend $300+ on a gallon of primer.

With my gun set up, 1.4 tip, the Omni lays down a little bit nicer than the DP does.

Not sure of durability on either as this is my first go around.

My dad just bought some SPI epoxy primer, and I think he spent ~$175 for two sprayable gallons. Supposedly it is really good primer too.

I chose the DP 60, for the reason of color.

[Captainfab]

Originally Posted by TimE

The Omni is a cheaper line of PPG stuff. Similar to Shop Line. From what I understand(and I may be wrong) it is an older formulation that was used prior to the DPLF90. BTW, the 'LF' stands for lead free.

I bought it from a semi-local PPG distributor. Went in and asked for the DPLF90 and he quoted me the price and that started a lengthy discussion. He explained it as basically you had "good, better and best" with the PPG being "best" and the Omni being "better". I opted for the Omni. He even offered to tint it for me if I wanted(was thinking about the light blue suede at the time) but I didn't.

If anyone knows more about this, feel free to jump in. The info above is what I have read online and been told so it may not be completely accurate.

That's the same thing I've been told by my friend that knows PPG products very well. I've used both DP and Omni and couldn't tell the difference, nor have I had issues with either one.

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by joe231

thanks man, now you tell me....what is omni, and where do you get it??

Pay attention I mentioned Omni in post 518 I know it's just too much pressure.

[TimE]

^^^Joe


(Hey Alan, do you know what time it is?- Go to bed!!!)

[4dranch]

nice stuff

[TimE]

Oooohhhh...PPG! Good stuff but kinda pricey! I cheaped out and bought a gallon of the Omni.

[joe231]

yeah, lots of options............

what did the omni gallon cost ya?

everything pictured above cost me $114 and change.
I went to B&H as Mike(MuscleRodz) suggested, they are a dupont distributor. they had a similar epoxy primer, but it only came in gallons and cost $280.....so the guy told me of a PPG distributor in Norman, he was very cool and i would like to give them some business in the future.

Thanks again Mike!
they said they did know you.....but wouldn't hold it against me

[Musclerodz]

You would have ended up using that gallon by the time you got around the truck.

Don't use Omni, you would be sorry after doing everything else right. Not the time to go cheap on paint. it would be a different story if you want ed a scuff and shoot so it was all one color. Go with the good stuff that carries a warranty. Not up on PPG products anymore.

[bosephus]

I'm sure glad your cab story had a happy endingCan't wait to see the build.Take lots of pics for us amatuers cause I have this to look forward to on my project as well.Keep Going Looking good!

[joe231]

Originally Posted by Musclerodz

You would have ended up using that gallon by the time you got around the truck.

Don't use Omni, you would be sorry after doing everything else right. Not the time to go cheap on paint. it would be a different story if you want ed a scuff and shoot so it was all one color. Go with the good stuff that carries a warranty. Not up on PPG products anymore.

I figured i would, but cash is a bit tight, but probably would have been money ahead with the Gallon....
I'm just going by braille, feeling this out paint thing out. I don't mind spending the extra coin for quality, I just want to learn. The wife and I are trying to do everything ourselves, with help from you, Scott, and all the other more experienced painters. I want this restoration to last. we will never get rid of this truck, it will be passed on to our kids, so money isn't really an issue, we can wait and save to have the money to do it right, of course, that might kill our self imposed deadlines.

Originally Posted by bosephus

I'm sure glad your cab story had a happy endingCan't wait to see the build.Take lots of pics for us amatuers cause I have this to look forward to on my project as well.Keep Going Looking good!

Thanks Hank!! don't get it twisted...i'm far from a pro
i realize your name probably isn't Hank.....but i couldn't pass up the bosephus reference

[protrash64]

Subscribed......wanna keep up with 'As the Grinder Turns'.

[bosephus]

my nckname is Bo but some insist on calling me Bosephus so there you have it.As for the hank reference;probably closer to Hank Hill than to Hank williams jr! Anyway,hope you get that paint figured out.




Thanks Hank!! don't get it twisted...i'm far from a pro
i realize your name probably isn't Hank.....but i couldn't pass up the bosephus reference [/QUOTE]

[joe231]

tune in tomorrow.......we will find out who fathered Consuela's love-child...and the local philanthropist will come back from the dead to find his wife in the arms of his brother

[protrash64]

Between this, Alan's Classics, Jasons65, and MacAttack Im having a great time...cant stop laughing.

[4dranch]

Originally Posted by joe231

tune in tomorrow.......we will find out who fathered Consuela's love-child...and the local philanthropist will come back from the dead to find his wife in the arms of his brother

Joe, it sounds like a real show.
Do you work nights and off during the days??

[jason65]

What role does Joe play?

[joe231]

Originally Posted by Alan's Classic

Pay attention I mentioned Omni in post 518 I know it's just too much pressure.

oops.................

Originally Posted by TimE

^^^Joe


(Hey Alan, do you know what time it is?- Go to bed!!!)

Originally Posted by 4dranch

Joe, it sounds like a real show.
Do you work nights and off during the days??

Nope, but my mom was a soap opera junkie when i was a wee lad

Originally Posted by jason65

What role does Joe play?

i'll have the plead the 5th on this one......you will just have to tune in to find out......

[joe231]

Yeah,what he said

[Alan's Classic]

Ok, I'm back at work. I took pix but can't upload at work. I used DP90LF and DP402LF. I will tell you that the painter here said he reduced it down to something that would spray good. He used TLAR method "That looks about right". That's why it went so far. I strongly urge you to talk to the people you got your paint from and see what they tell you. I sprayed my bedsides with it reduced down and the part sat outside for awhile in the weather and didn't rust except where I didn't get good coverage.

[Musclerodz]

Get a MSDS sheet and instruction sheet on how to properly apply it. 2.0 tip is WAY to big unless you are shooting Rustdefender or similar product. Which side of Norman are you on? Give me a call and maybe I can stop by this weekend and see what is going on.

[joe231]

Thanks Alan, i tried to get info from the place I got the paint.....they are an auto supply and don't seem to know much......I asked what I could use to thin it.....he told me the stuff that comes with it

Thanks Mike. I got the MSDS and instructions, it said 1.4-1.6mm and 40-60 psi....the one thing we missed was that with the DP401LF activator you are supposed to mix it then wait 30 minutes before spraying, oops. i got another quart of the DP90LF and this time got the DP402LF activator instead, no wait with it.
I live on the east-side of Norman, but the cab is in Tuttle at Scott's shop
you think it would work better with the suggested 1.4-1.6mm tip? it didn't hardly want to flow through the 2.0mm, but maybe that was due to us not waiting 30 min to spray it....