'68 C10 Short-Step 6.0 + TT swap - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

SCIV · 11-07-2008, 06:23 PM

Well, I thought I would give this a shot here. I am going to do this the lazy way since I already had a thread going elsewhere. I hope it isn't bad to link outside of here???

Anyway, I started with a bone stock 86,xxx mile 1968 short step side. Originally with a 6 and 3 OTT.

I have (with the help of friends) swapped in a 2003 LQ4 6.0L with 4L80e trans. Currently working out the parts for a twin turbo setup (ordered a custom cam this week). Once that gets here, I will start building it back up.

Eventually it will get a disc conversion with a 2.5"/4" drop, 3.73 gears with locker, and a little boost

Here is a link to the thread, and I will start to update here too:
http://www.ls1truck.com/forums/lsx-t...-6-0-swap.html

I am open to advice, comments & suggestions!
Thanks,
SCIV

**Hart_Rod** · 11-08-2008, 12:05 AM

Welcome from NM! Great looking project.

SCIV · 12-22-2008, 06:42 PM

Finally an update. After much debating, I decided to change out the old oil pump for a Texas Speed ported & polished LS6 unit as well as upgrade to an LS2 timing chain. I didn't have the patience to pull the motor, so I tried to do it in the truck. That ended up taking me 2 weekends since I cut the oil tube oring on the first try.

Anyway, got that done, and also changed out the valve springs for Comp 918's with TI retainers & hardened pushrods. Starting to look like a motor again. here are some pics of the progress:

New oil pump & timing chain:

New valley plate & knock sensors:

New springs & retainers:

All buttoned up (mostly!):

And new goodies from Santa!!:

LUV2XCLR8 · 12-22-2008, 06:43 PM

Nice

71cadc10 · 12-23-2008, 12:13 PM

looking good....what's your plan with the coil packs? relocating them?

SCIV · 12-23-2008, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 71cadc10

looking good....what's your plan with the coil packs? relocating them?

Absolutely. Where? I don't know yet, but probably to the back of the block above the trans.

LuckyHenriksen · 12-23-2008, 12:59 PM

Thats sick man, I cant wait to see it with twins! I have the same swap planned for my '68. What turbos are you thinking?

SCIV · 12-23-2008, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuckyHenriksen

Thats sick man, I cant wait to see it with twins! I have the same swap planned for my '68. What turbos are you thinking?

Leaning towards 62 or 67mm. Eventually I will build a forged 370 for it, and really turn up the heat!

LuckyHenriksen · 12-23-2008, 01:13 PM

Sounds like a good plan

LuckyHenriksen · 12-23-2008, 01:15 PM

What kind of power are looking for on the stock long block? What heads are you running?

SCIV · 12-23-2008, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuckyHenriksen

What kind of power are looking for on the stock long block? What heads are you running?

317's with Comp 918 springs & TI retainers.

I think 600 hp or so is a good starting point.

my67chevytruck · 12-23-2008, 01:42 PM

looking good...

texanidiot25 · 12-24-2008, 05:58 PM

This truck is going to be a beast

SCIV · 12-24-2008, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by texanidiot25

This truck is going to be a beast

That is the plan!!

Well, long term anyway. I am just trying to get it going by February 15th, so I can make a GM Truck track day in San Antonio. It will probably be on just motor, and the twins will start after that.

SCOTI · 12-24-2008, 09:49 PM

Subscribed. Nice work (except for cleaning the motor

).

SCIV · 12-30-2008, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCOTI

Subscribed. Nice work (except for cleaning the motor

).

I thought I cleaned it a little!

Here are some fuel system updates:

I am not sure on the angle of the filter, I have a 90* fitting on the way to mock it up that way to see which I like better.

Rokcrln · 12-30-2008, 12:32 PM

Looks good! I am toying with doing a small turbo set up on my 4dr Tahoe build with a 2005 5.3l. So why is your fuel pump set up so low?

Kevin
LFD Inc.

ripdog28 · 12-30-2008, 03:11 PM

Love the build. I got scared for you when i seen how that fuel pump was mounted. Just looks iffy. IMO lift it up flush with the bottom of the tank or mount low right to the frame. I would not have it dangling below the bumper and frame all out in the open. it may get caught on something or hit. with the pricks today it would be easy for someone to cut it off and take it. may be fine but just gave me the shivers when i seen it.

LuckyHenriksen · 12-30-2008, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ripdog28

Love the build. I got scared for you when i seen how that fuel pump was mounted. Just looks iffy. IMO lift it up flush with the bottom of the tank or mount low right to the frame. I would not have it dangling below the bumper and frame all out in the open. it may get caught on something or hit. with the pricks today it would be easy for someone to cut it off and take it. may be fine but just gave me the shivers when i seen it.

I agree, it looks a little flimsy. Nice setup though!

SCIV · 12-30-2008, 06:33 PM

I was worried too until I mocked it up. Those are 1/4 plate, and it is stiff as a board.

The pump has to be below the outlet of the cell, and the cell is under the bed, so that is why it is so low. It is still 3" above the bottom of the differential case, so it isn't the lowest thing on the truck.

I would have to raise the cell to inside the bed to make the pump tuck under the bumper.

Rock* ME *Hardplace

LuckyHenriksen · 12-30-2008, 07:04 PM

is that how it is for any fuel cell?

ripdog28 · 12-30-2008, 10:51 PM

You should have an Electric fuel pump mounted at the level of the tank. Some want it lower then so the fuel will flow out of the tank into the pump eliminating the pump starving. It is not needed if you keep more then 1/4 tank and the pump is not above the tank just needs to be at fuel level.

SCIV · 12-31-2008, 11:01 AM

Maybe I took the Aeromotive directions too seriously? I have it mounted below the outlet on the cell by about 1 1/2".

So ripdog, you think I can move it up a couple inches to be at the bottom of the cell level? I just don't want to starve the engine or burnup the pump!

EDIT:
Just got off the phone with Aeromotive, and they said I can move the pump up to be even with the bottom of the cell. That will gain me 3-4" at a minimum. Thanks for catching that guys.

SCIV · 12-31-2008, 08:10 PM

I will work more on the fuel system tomorrow. Here is what I started tonight:

texanidiot25 · 12-31-2008, 08:21 PM

Nice looking guages, where did you grab these?

11-07-2008, 06:23 PM	#1
SCIV Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Georgetown, Texas Posts: 170	'68 C10 Short-Step 6.0 + TT swap Well, I thought I would give this a shot here. I am going to do this the lazy way since I already had a thread going elsewhere. I hope it isn't bad to link outside of here??? Anyway, I started with a bone stock 86,xxx mile 1968 short step side. Originally with a 6 and 3 OTT. I have (with the help of friends) swapped in a 2003 LQ4 6.0L with 4L80e trans. Currently working out the parts for a twin turbo setup (ordered a custom cam this week). Once that gets here, I will start building it back up. Eventually it will get a disc conversion with a 2.5"/4" drop, 3.73 gears with locker, and a little boost Here is a link to the thread, and I will start to update here too: http://www.ls1truck.com/forums/lsx-t...-6-0-swap.html I am open to advice, comments & suggestions! Thanks, SCIV

11-08-2008, 12:05 AM	#2
Hart_Rod ************* Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pensacola, FL Posts: 17,858	Re: '68 C10 Short-Step 6.0 + TT swap Welcome from NM! Great looking project. __________________ Rob - https://www.instagram.com/hart_rod_c10 As Iron Sharpens Iron, So One Man Sharpens Another. Proverbs 27:17 FOR SALE: DBW pedal bracket - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=651123 FOR SALE: Hood Brackets http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=679945 1987 Silverado SWB - 34.5K original miles http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=801834 1969 SuperBurb - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=200387 1968 Farm truck - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=358692 1968 SWB - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=551258 1948 Chevy - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=122164&page=3

12-22-2008, 06:42 PM	#3
SCIV Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Georgetown, Texas Posts: 170	Re: '68 C10 Short-Step 6.0 + TT swap Finally an update. After much debating, I decided to change out the old oil pump for a Texas Speed ported & polished LS6 unit as well as upgrade to an LS2 timing chain. I didn't have the patience to pull the motor, so I tried to do it in the truck. That ended up taking me 2 weekends since I cut the oil tube oring on the first try. Anyway, got that done, and also changed out the valve springs for Comp 918's with TI retainers & hardened pushrods. Starting to look like a motor again. here are some pics of the progress: New oil pump & timing chain: New valley plate & knock sensors: New springs & retainers: All buttoned up (mostly!): And new goodies from Santa!!:

12-22-2008, 06:43 PM	#4
LUV2XCLR8 The LuvShack Garage Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Maple Grove, TN (West Side) Posts: 30,468	Re: '68 C10 Short-Step 6.0 + TT swap Nice __________________ Owner/Op: "TN Classic Transport Carriers" The Toy: "Square Vette" 72 Hybrid Blazer Toy Barn: "LuvShack" 40 x 60 x 20 Shop Tow Piggy:"Maddy" 88 Silverado 3500 Hauler: "Feathers" 14 Aluma 8218T

12-23-2008, 12:13 PM	#5
71cadc10 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Boiling Springs, PA Posts: 435	Re: '68 C10 Short-Step 6.0 + TT swap looking good....what's your plan with the coil packs? relocating them? __________________ 71 C10 long bed, 2003 6.0L, 06GTO E40, T56, 12bolt 4.10 rear

12-23-2008, 12:59 PM	#7
LuckyHenriksen Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sherwood Oregon Posts: 1,908	Re: '68 C10 Short-Step 6.0 + TT swap Thats sick man, I cant wait to see it with twins! I have the same swap planned for my '68. What turbos are you thinking? __________________ 1968 Yenko Chevy LWB 6.0L/TH400 3/4 Drop Senior Project Build Thread Here

12-23-2008, 01:13 PM	#9
LuckyHenriksen Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sherwood Oregon Posts: 1,908	Re: '68 C10 Short-Step 6.0 + TT swap Sounds like a good plan __________________ 1968 Yenko Chevy LWB 6.0L/TH400 3/4 Drop Senior Project Build Thread Here

12-23-2008, 01:15 PM	#10
LuckyHenriksen Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sherwood Oregon Posts: 1,908	Re: '68 C10 Short-Step 6.0 + TT swap What kind of power are looking for on the stock long block? What heads are you running? __________________ 1968 Yenko Chevy LWB 6.0L/TH400 3/4 Drop Senior Project Build Thread Here

12-23-2008, 01:42 PM	#12
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12-24-2008, 05:58 PM	#13
texanidiot25 Eat My Rust Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cypress, Texas Posts: 3,362	Re: '68 C10 Short-Step 6.0 + TT swap This truck is going to be a beast

12-24-2008, 09:49 PM	#15
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 22,064	Re: '68 C10 Short-Step 6.0 + TT swap Subscribed. Nice work (except for cleaning the motor ). __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... *Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.*

12-30-2008, 12:32 PM	#17
Rokcrln Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Winters Ca. 95694 Posts: 4,843	Re: '68 C10 Short-Step 6.0 + TT swap Looks good! I am toying with doing a small turbo set up on my 4dr Tahoe build with a 2005 5.3l. So why is your fuel pump set up so low? Kevin LFD Inc.

12-30-2008, 03:11 PM	#18
ripdog28 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Imperial Beach, CA Posts: 1,040	Re: '68 C10 Short-Step 6.0 + TT swap Love the build. I got scared for you when i seen how that fuel pump was mounted. Just looks iffy. IMO lift it up flush with the bottom of the tank or mount low right to the frame. I would not have it dangling below the bumper and frame all out in the open. it may get caught on something or hit. with the pricks today it would be easy for someone to cut it off and take it. may be fine but just gave me the shivers when i seen it. __________________ 69 c-10 BBC 462ci, forged crank, H-beam rods, 10.5-1 KB forged pistons, Dart Iron Eagle 308cc, Straub Cam, Comp Cams chrome moly full rollers, Weiand Team G, Prosystems 950, TH400/3500 Dalenzie stall, Currie 9+ Detroit Locker w/31spline axles.3.5/6in drop. My Build. Last edited by ripdog28; 12-30-2008 at 03:14 PM.

12-30-2008, 06:33 PM	#20
SCIV Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Georgetown, Texas Posts: 170	Re: '68 C10 Short-Step 6.0 + TT swap I was worried too until I mocked it up. Those are 1/4 plate, and it is stiff as a board. The pump has to be below the outlet of the cell, and the cell is under the bed, so that is why it is so low. It is still 3" above the bottom of the differential case, so it isn't the lowest thing on the truck. I would have to raise the cell to inside the bed to make the pump tuck under the bumper. Rock* ME *Hardplace __________________ '68 Chevrolet Short Step 6.0 L + 91mm + TH400 + 9" + 4-Link

12-30-2008, 07:04 PM	#21
LuckyHenriksen Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sherwood Oregon Posts: 1,908	Re: '68 C10 Short-Step 6.0 + TT swap is that how it is for any fuel cell? __________________ 1968 Yenko Chevy LWB 6.0L/TH400 3/4 Drop Senior Project Build Thread Here



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12-30-2008, 10:51 PM	#22
ripdog28 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Imperial Beach, CA Posts: 1,040	Re: '68 C10 Short-Step 6.0 + TT swap You should have an Electric fuel pump mounted at the level of the tank. Some want it lower then so the fuel will flow out of the tank into the pump eliminating the pump starving. It is not needed if you keep more then 1/4 tank and the pump is not above the tank just needs to be at fuel level. __________________ 69 c-10 BBC 462ci, forged crank, H-beam rods, 10.5-1 KB forged pistons, Dart Iron Eagle 308cc, Straub Cam, Comp Cams chrome moly full rollers, Weiand Team G, Prosystems 950, TH400/3500 Dalenzie stall, Currie 9+ Detroit Locker w/31spline axles.3.5/6in drop. My Build.

12-31-2008, 11:01 AM	#23
SCIV Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Georgetown, Texas Posts: 170	Re: '68 C10 Short-Step 6.0 + TT swap Maybe I took the Aeromotive directions too seriously? I have it mounted below the outlet on the cell by about 1 1/2". So ripdog, you think I can move it up a couple inches to be at the bottom of the cell level? I just don't want to starve the engine or burnup the pump! EDIT: Just got off the phone with Aeromotive, and they said I can move the pump up to be even with the bottom of the cell. That will gain me 3-4" at a minimum. Thanks for catching that guys. __________________ '68 Chevrolet Short Step 6.0 L + 91mm + TH400 + 9" + 4-Link Last edited by SCIV; 12-31-2008 at 12:15 PM.

12-31-2008, 08:10 PM	#24
SCIV Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Georgetown, Texas Posts: 170	Re: '68 C10 Short-Step 6.0 + TT swap I will work more on the fuel system tomorrow. Here is what I started tonight: __________________ '68 Chevrolet Short Step 6.0 L + 91mm + TH400 + 9" + 4-Link

12-31-2008, 08:21 PM	#25
texanidiot25 Eat My Rust Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cypress, Texas Posts: 3,362	Re: '68 C10 Short-Step 6.0 + TT swap Nice looking guages, where did you grab these?

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