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65VOL · 02-10-2009, 03:12 AM

Alright I've been cruising this forum for a good while trying to find all the info I could on my troubles, but still no start for my 65 c10. My truck has the period inline 6 and was a great running truck til the transmission linkage broke on me. In the process of replacement + the million other things you pick up while disassembling, the truck sat for a while.

I've double checked the electronics; spark to plugs is strong. I've confirmed fuel delivery to carb (new fuel by the way). I have also confirmed my timing, but when I turn the key I get rotation, but no firing. Now, I have searched the forums for similar situations, and have tried all that I've found, but still no luck. Is there anything else I may be overlooking?

Also, my brother was rotating the fan by hand to adjust timing, and a few times the fan would rotate due to slipping of the belt. So the fan would rotate, but the lower pulley would not. Could this be adding to my troubles, or is this nothing to worry about?

I'm a student and getting married in July, so any free time I get you better believe I'm working on my truck. Its going to be my main vehicle if I can get it to a reliable running state.

When i get it running I'll have pics of the whole project up and start a build thread, but til then thats on hold. If ya'll need any pictures that might help please let me know.

~65VOL

retodd7711 · 02-10-2009, 06:22 AM

I'll try to help.
Fan slippage is not a problem,this does not affect your timing.
Try a shot of starting fluid(with fire extinguisher handy).
If it starts,you've got a fuel problem.
Have you done a compression check?
That could find hidden problems.
Is your battery strong?
A low battery, or bad ground, can cause all kinds of starting trouble.

TimE · 02-10-2009, 10:15 AM

Check to make sure your starter wires are on the correct terminals. Theres aother thread with a colored diagram if you aren't sure...

ol Curt · 02-11-2009, 09:03 AM

Any luck getting it started?

502tripower · 02-11-2009, 01:38 PM

Did you check the firing order and do you have the plug wires on accordingly?

ol Curt · 02-12-2009, 10:45 AM

You could check the firing order....15 is too young, 36 is too old, 24 is just right.
It might help us to help you if we have a bit more info. Did you remove the motor when removing the trans? Do you still have the old points system or HEI?
If the motor wasn't removed, you might put a little fuel down the carb to pour some fresh fuel in the bowl.Sometimes that will help with the prime. Starting fluid would probably tell you a lot...if it fires after a shot of that, it is probably fuel related.
Was the distributor out during this time?

Also, are you sure the starter is remounted correctly and engaging?

Have you pulled a plug and grounded it while cranking to see if the plugs are firing?

I also think it would be important to check the wires to the coil to ensure they are correct.

65VOL · 02-12-2009, 02:18 PM

The engine has never been removed, and I've double checked timing, plug wires, and spark. My spark has potentially been weak because I found that my points were pitting. I'm picking up a new point set and button today after class. Everything else seems like its okay, but we'll see when I get the new points in. The battery is new, the grounds are good, and most of the wires in the engine bay have been replaced, but not all.

Thanks for the help everyone.

I'll let you know where I get tonight.

davidh · 02-12-2009, 02:33 PM

I had similar problems. Mine would start and immediately die. Wound up being the ignition switch wire unhooked on the back of the makeshift key ignition. It would get fire at turn key position but not when it was released in running mode. I would pour gas/or starting fluid down carb first. Just a little. then if not check the ignition switch.

Slingnutt · 02-14-2009, 12:21 AM

My money is on the points, spend the money and switch over to HEI, hotter fire and more reliable....and it still looks stock.

Good luck

02-10-2009, 03:12 AM	#1
65VOL Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 47	Need help w/ starting inline 6 Alright I've been cruising this forum for a good while trying to find all the info I could on my troubles, but still no start for my 65 c10. My truck has the period inline 6 and was a great running truck til the transmission linkage broke on me. In the process of replacement + the million other things you pick up while disassembling, the truck sat for a while. I've double checked the electronics; spark to plugs is strong. I've confirmed fuel delivery to carb (new fuel by the way). I have also confirmed my timing, but when I turn the key I get rotation, but no firing. Now, I have searched the forums for similar situations, and have tried all that I've found, but still no luck. Is there anything else I may be overlooking? Also, my brother was rotating the fan by hand to adjust timing, and a few times the fan would rotate due to slipping of the belt. So the fan would rotate, but the lower pulley would not. Could this be adding to my troubles, or is this nothing to worry about? I'm a student and getting married in July, so any free time I get you better believe I'm working on my truck. Its going to be my main vehicle if I can get it to a reliable running state. When i get it running I'll have pics of the whole project up and start a build thread, but til then thats on hold. If ya'll need any pictures that might help please let me know. ~65VOL

02-10-2009, 06:22 AM	#2
retodd7711 chrome makes it go FASTER! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cleveland Tennessee Posts: 2,884	Re: Need help w/ starting inline 6 I'll try to help. Fan slippage is not a problem,this does not affect your timing. Try a shot of starting fluid(with fire extinguisher handy). If it starts,you've got a fuel problem. Have you done a compression check? That could find hidden problems. Is your battery strong? A low battery, or bad ground, can cause all kinds of starting trouble. __________________ She can't cook and she won't clean. But she looks good in a skirt and she brings me beer. She can stay for now. EDIT:: But she left me anyway, So forget her. 1962 GMC Stepside V6 4 speed My rolling resto thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=324226 My old farm truck http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post3465005

02-10-2009, 10:15 AM	#3
TimE Hey Y'all!! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bay Minette, Alabama Posts: 1,755	Re: Need help w/ starting inline 6 Check to make sure your starter wires are on the correct terminals. Theres aother thread with a colored diagram if you aren't sure... __________________ Just hopin' I live long enough to finish something!!!

02-11-2009, 09:03 AM	#4
ol Curt Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Newburgh, IN Posts: 1,247	Re: Need help w/ starting inline 6 Any luck getting it started?

02-11-2009, 01:38 PM	#5
502tripower Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Satsop, WA Posts: 606	Re: Need help w/ starting inline 6 Did you check the firing order and do you have the plug wires on accordingly? __________________ 1963' Chev Custom Cab 502, 67' 435hp 3X2 intake, 9" 4:30 Posi 1961 Impala SS 348/350 4-speed 3:70 Posi 1961 Bel-Air Bubble Top 283 Turboglide soon to have a 348 3X2 4-speed 1950 17' Fairliner twin cockpit barrel stern 312 Y block 1X1 intake Borg Warner 1:1 gear 1957 Fleetform 14' twin cockpit barrel stern 1969 BP-125 Merc 1949 Transitier 3-wheel forklift Crosley 4-Banger 98' FXD 2002 2500HD

02-12-2009, 10:45 AM	#6
ol Curt Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Newburgh, IN Posts: 1,247	Re: Need help w/ starting inline 6 You could check the firing order....15 is too young, 36 is too old, 24 is just right. It might help us to help you if we have a bit more info. Did you remove the motor when removing the trans? Do you still have the old points system or HEI? If the motor wasn't removed, you might put a little fuel down the carb to pour some fresh fuel in the bowl.Sometimes that will help with the prime. Starting fluid would probably tell you a lot...if it fires after a shot of that, it is probably fuel related. Was the distributor out during this time? Also, are you sure the starter is remounted correctly and engaging? Have you pulled a plug and grounded it while cranking to see if the plugs are firing? I also think it would be important to check the wires to the coil to ensure they are correct. Last edited by ol Curt; 02-12-2009 at 10:49 AM.

02-12-2009, 02:18 PM	#7
65VOL Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 47	Re: Need help w/ starting inline 6 The engine has never been removed, and I've double checked timing, plug wires, and spark. My spark has potentially been weak because I found that my points were pitting. I'm picking up a new point set and button today after class. Everything else seems like its okay, but we'll see when I get the new points in. The battery is new, the grounds are good, and most of the wires in the engine bay have been replaced, but not all. Thanks for the help everyone. I'll let you know where I get tonight. Last edited by 65VOL; 02-12-2009 at 02:24 PM.

02-12-2009, 02:33 PM	#8
davidh Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ponca city now kingfisher Oklahoma Posts: 1,221	Re: Need help w/ starting inline 6 I had similar problems. Mine would start and immediately die. Wound up being the ignition switch wire unhooked on the back of the makeshift key ignition. It would get fire at turn key position but not when it was released in running mode. I would pour gas/or starting fluid down carb first. Just a little. then if not check the ignition switch. __________________ Even the nicest dodge-chrysler is only 2years away from being parked outside of Section 8 housing.

02-14-2009, 12:21 AM	#9
Slingnutt Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Scurry, Texas Posts: 21	Re: Need help w/ starting inline 6 My money is on the points, spend the money and switch over to HEI, hotter fire and more reliable....and it still looks stock. Good luck __________________ The very existence of flame-throwers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done~~~George Carlin When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands~~~George Carlin Have you thanked a VET today???



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