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low n' slo
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Re: LFD's project white lightning -- 1968 fleetside "basically stock"
well that's good to know..I live in texas so no harsh elements but it does stay outside. I will probably find a spot to shoot something in there once I do my inside tubs, I have to cut the floor out anyways. I was under the impression por 15 was a must for this stuff. thanks for the info
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Re: LFD's project white lightning -- 1968 fleetside "basically stock"
Por 15 is a good product but not a must for anything. It does work great if you have an area that is rusted and you don't want to fix or clean it before covering say like a light rust on the floor boards or under the dash were you will not see it or UV's will not get to it. For areas that are clean metal I like to just use a good metal prep or epoxy paint to cover these areas. You would not put por 15 on say the top of your roof or hood, Why? Because it is good clean metal and you will be using quality paints and sealers to keep rust from starting. If it is already started then that is another story, you need to have the area blasted so their is no longer rust or use a converter hopping it will slow or stop the rust problem.
Now were I used the converter it was not to slow or stop rust because it was already good clean metal but the converters still give a god protection over bare metal and still allow welding to be done in most cases. Before you just start painting with hopes of welding over it at a later date do samples. I took about 20 1"x6" strips of 19ga metal and 5 different products and coated 1 with just the strait product, then one with a combo of products and made sure I labeled each one. Then once everything dried for the recommended time I spot welded then together with 2 spot welds per piece and after they cooled I would cut them between the 2 welds and break then apart to see what the results were. The first thing I looked for was penetration next was the burn area around the weld and last was the durability of the paint left around the burn area. I have also used this eastwoods kit before on builds were the owner did not want to start cutting areas open and do it right. It is also a good way to go if your truck is all original and not really in need of repair or already built and painted but you want a bit more piece of mind. With this kit you can get above the windshield, down the A-pillars, into the rockers and so on. Yes this is a bit over kill but it is info I will be using later down the road so it was worth the time I spent doing it and if it helps others keep their vehicles on the road a bit longer than great. Kevin LFD Inc. Last edited by Rokcrln; 10-29-2009 at 10:22 AM. |
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Re: LFD's project white lightning -- 1968 fleetside "basically stock"
Before lunch pic's! I started on the fire wall this morning and wanted to share the progress so far. I have filled most of the holes with the same method I mentioned before by making small plugs and welding them in for a finished look on the front and back of the firewall. We are leaving the brakes, steering and harness mounts as well as the E-brake cable but I made a bracket to mount the E-brake pedal from the inside so as not to see the bolts and nuts. I had to shorten the bracket about 1/4" for everything to stay lined up correctly. Once all the holes are filled, welded and hammer finished then I will put in the patch for the A/C location but until then it is great access for working.
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Hittin E-Z Street on Mud Tires
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Re: LFD's project white lightning -- 1968 fleetside "basically stock"
If I ever win the lottery, I'm going to ship my truck to you (don't hold your breath though
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Re: LFD's project white lightning -- 1968 fleetside "basically stock"
Fill the filler hole! The best way I found over time to do this is to cut out the gas filler hole lip and make the hole larger. This way you can hammer and dolly to a nice finish. The problem is this area of the cab is a compound curve so it gets a bit tricky. What I do is start off with a gauge that follows the curve in two direction @ 90* to each other. Then I do a quick rough in with the planishing hammer before going to the wheel and the shrinker to finish it off. Once my profile gauges match the curve but in reverse (gauges were made on the passenger side but the patch is for the drivers side) I then try the fit. Once the entire panel fits as well as this one did then it is time to cut my patch and fit it to the cab. After it is fit with as minimal gas as possible I start to tig it in place. For my tig wire on sheet metal like this I use the solid core wire from my mig welder because it comes in .023 and tig wire only comes as small as .030 and when you are hammer welding it their is a big difference in the two sizes.
After it is al welded in place I start to hammer finish to the shape I want before hitting it with a DA to check the surface for slight imperfections. Then on to the next patch. Kevin LFD Inc. [IMG] ![]() [IMG] ![]() [IMG] ![]() [IMG] ![]() [IMG] ![]() [IMG] ![]() [IMG] ![]() [IMG] ![]() [IMG] ![]() [IMG] ![]() |
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Re: LFD's project white lightning -- 1968 fleetside "basically stock"
Super job on the gas tank filler hole! It looks like you could almost fill it smooth with epoxy primer! I like to use that mig wire too for fine welding with the tig. Keep it up!
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Re: LFD's project white lightning -- 1968 fleetside "basically stock"
Looks great...but have you seen the infanti $10 patch from ebay? He has the stake pocket, marker light, door latch and lock, and firewall patches as well....fits absolutely perfect as well and I know you had to spend more than $10 worth of your time working on that
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Re: LFD's project white lightning -- 1968 fleetside "basically stock"
oh man, i cant wait to see how this turns out..great looking work!
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Re: LFD's project white lightning -- 1968 fleetside "basically stock"
What do you plan on doing for an accelerator? Really nice work sir!
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Re: LFD's project white lightning -- 1968 fleetside "basically stock"
Always cool to watch you work Kevin....subscribed!
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Re: LFD's project white lightning -- 1968 fleetside "basically stock"
This looks good, as well as the background decorations in the pics.
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Re: LFD's project white lightning -- 1968 fleetside "basically stock"
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Re: LFD's project white lightning -- 1968 fleetside "basically stock"
Well the new tongs for my spot welder worked great!! I pre coated the areas to be welded with a weld through (can on left) primmer, let it dry for about 1 hour (can said 30 min) then started the fun. I would hate to be the guy who try's to remove these 50 years from now. I will have 3 plug welds on the front section of the rocker were it wraps around the lower A pillar and that is it.
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SWB 4x4 Collector
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Re: LFD's project white lightning -- 1968 fleetside "basically stock"
Hey Kevin, are the spot welders hard to use??? I take it you drill a hole in the rocker and put the tongs to the back side of the rock and the top side correct?? What brand is your spot welder? Do you think a Harbor Freight one would be even worth the money for a novice user? Thanks and once again it looks better than factory. Thanks Trevor
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Re: LFD's project white lightning -- 1968 fleetside "basically stock"
looking good!
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Re: LFD's project white lightning -- 1968 fleetside "basically stock"
The spotwelds look good! I think your on to something.
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Re: LFD's project white lightning -- 1968 fleetside "basically stock"
Nice work! Thanks for all the pics. I have a question..Does your spot welder run on 110 or 220 Volts? It seems to work purty nice!
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Re: LFD's project white lightning -- 1968 fleetside "basically stock"
With your rep, I'm sure you'll be welding lots more rockers on with that thing (plus whatever you're using it for anyway.) You'll have that $ back in no time
![]() Cab is looking great and those spot welds look really cool on there.
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Re: LFD's project white lightning -- 1968 fleetside "basically stock"
good looking build so far. also love the dog
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