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lyrikz · 01-19-2010, 11:08 AM

Finishing up the wiring on my project, go to find the key to start it for the first time in 3 years with the key, and NO KEY!!!!. I cant find it. I know i just had it because i used it to put the ignition in... Can you get the ignition out without having a key???

Bummed.

lyrikz · 01-19-2010, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by lyrikz

Finishing up the wiring on my project, go to find the key to start it for the first time in 3 years with the key, and NO KEY!!!!. I cant find it. I know i just had it because i used it to put the ignition in... Can you get the ignition out without having a key???

Bummed.

Anyone know????

**LockDoc** · 01-19-2010, 02:27 PM

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The ignition cylinder won't come out without the key. If it has the original locks take the passenger door lock out and have a key made from the code number on it...

LockDoc

lyrikz · 01-19-2010, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by LockDoc

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The ignition cylinder won't come out without the key. If it has the original locks take the passenger door lock out and have a key made from the code number on it...

LockDoc

does have the original locks, but the door key and the ignition key are different... its a 71.. they have two keys.

trucks72 · 01-19-2010, 02:41 PM

I have drilled out the cylinder before. Just start with a small bit and get bigger each time. Do not go to big or it will mess up the housing in the back. If you drill it the springs and clips will release and fall out. Then you can take the cyl. out. You could also get a locksmith to come by. That would be the easiest but costly way.

lyrikz · 01-19-2010, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by trucks72

I have drilled out the cylinder before. Just start with a small bit and get bigger each time. Do not go to big or it will mess up the housing in the back. If you drill it the springs and clips will release and fall out. Then you can take the cyl. out. You could also get a locksmith to come by. That would be the easiest but costly way.

Crap

dfwright · 01-19-2010, 02:47 PM

Sounds like it's time to turn everything inside out looking for that original key!

usmcchevy · 01-19-2010, 02:51 PM

Yep just start drilling, once you get a hole made try to grab the stainless face off the lock cyl with a pair of pliers and rip it off. Thats all I needed in my '69 cab, but looking at the lock cyl from my '72 it wouldnt work due to two extra ridges. Good luck

PanelDeland · 01-19-2010, 03:54 PM

When you get it out and replaced have a spare key made and put it in your wallet.It will fit in the slot where the credit card you used to use to pay locksmiths went.

mr48chev · 01-19-2010, 04:28 PM

First find a fist full of old GM keys and try the most worn out ones first to see if you can get the switch to turn then pop the tumbler out and take it to the locksmith. Somewhere around ten bucks to have a key coded in most places.

I've got a ring with about a hundred keys on it that has bailed me out more than once on these.

lyrikz · 01-19-2010, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dfwright

Sounds like it's time to turn everything inside out looking for that original key!

Any ideas where to look.. I have torn stuff all apart. Looked everywhere. Cant find em. the thing is, I PUT THE DAMN cylinder in about 4 months ago, and i know you need the key to install it... And i put the keys somewhere so i wouldnt forget. AHAHA...

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Originally Posted by PanelDeland

When you get it out and replaced have a spare key made and put it in your wallet.It will fit in the slot where the credit card you used to use to pay locksmiths went.

That was awesome.....

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Originally Posted by usmcchevy

Yep just start drilling, once you get a hole made try to grab the stainless face off the lock cyl with a pair of pliers and rip it off. Thats all I needed in my '69 cab, but looking at the lock cyl from my '72 it wouldnt work due to two extra ridges. Good luck

What exactly keeps the cylinder in?? Just the metal face?

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Originally Posted by mr48chev

First find a fist full of old GM keys and try the most worn out ones first to see if you can get the switch to turn then pop the tumbler out and take it to the locksmith. Somewhere around ten bucks to have a key coded in most places.

I've got a ring with about a hundred keys on it that has bailed me out more than once on these.

That sounds like a great idea, but i have nothing. No keys.. WEll, i have 2 hidden somewhere, but i cant find em. LOL.

suprachrgd82 · 01-19-2010, 05:39 PM

The lint trap in the washer.

lyrikz · 01-19-2010, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by suprachrgd82

The lint trap in the washer.

Never had them in my pocket. Funny thing is last time i found them i put something on them and told myself this way i wouldnt ever lose them. LOL.

dfwright · 01-19-2010, 06:45 PM

I hate when I do that. I can remember I put something someplace special so I wouldn't lose it, but that's all I can remember. And the clever "never forget" spots are usually someplace you'll never expect to look later.

I feel for you -- been there and done that

lyrikz · 01-19-2010, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dfwright

I hate when I do that. I can remember I put something someplace special so I wouldn't lose it, but that's all I can remember. And the clever "never forget" spots are usually someplace you'll never expect to look later.

I feel for you -- been there and done that

im a sad panda over here. ahah. I bought a new ignition cylinder, now i just need to make sure i dont screw up my new pretty bezel, new pretty dash trying to drill this thing out....

chas350 · 01-19-2010, 06:58 PM

That is a bummer, good luck. I bet the key turns up as soon as you are done wrecking the current new switch, happens every time.
I have to write everything down on paper to have even a slight chance of remembering! Thats assuming I remember to write it down...

lyrikz · 01-19-2010, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by chas350

That is a bummer, good luck. I bet the key turns up as soon as you are done wrecking the current new switch, happens every time.
I have to write everything down on paper to have even a slight chance of remembering! Thats assuming I remember to write it down...

Ya. Its makin my brain burn cause i can see them but cant remember where i put them...

PanelDeland · 01-19-2010, 07:08 PM

Worked with a gut who lost his keys(I was at his apartment when he lost them).He went a week looking for them and finally paid like $60.00 for new apartment keys,and overnight from OK to get the spare his folks had for the car.The next night we finished the case of beer he had carried in and his keys were under the empty box.He just let go of them when he set down the beer.

ratpackv8sonly · 01-19-2010, 07:51 PM

check inbetween the seat in the truck. Lost mine for a year an one day i went out an stuck my hand between the seat coushion an there were.

lyrikz · 01-19-2010, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ratpackv8sonly

check inbetween the seat in the truck. Lost mine for a year an one day i went out an stuck my hand between the seat coushion an there were.

No seat, no interior....

nickp51chevy · 01-19-2010, 07:56 PM

I have a couple of keys for my '71. You're more than welcome to use them and see if they'll work.

sent PM

71 super · 01-19-2010, 08:47 PM

Did you put them in the ashtray? I usually throw a spare in there. Also have a set in the tool box... On top if the frig, dryer or near the sink? Young child in the house? they maybe in a toy box, purse or the barbie corvette, I found mine in all of these locations from time to time. Good luck.

Mxracer202 · 01-19-2010, 08:51 PM

That sucks

Bought my 67 from a friend who says he has the keys but I doubt he can find them along with the title, now he lives a ways away so now im wondering what to do when the time comes to start it up.

usmcchevy · 01-19-2010, 09:00 PM

What exactly keeps the cylinder in?? Just the metal face?

Ripping the metal face off might (depending on the design of the lock cyl) allow you to unscrew the benzel. I never tried to save my switch, just swapped out everything.

cerjio · 01-19-2010, 09:35 PM

order a whole new assembly from LMC

01-19-2010, 11:08 AM	#1
lyrikz PITbut Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: monroe washington Posts: 3,052	What a bummer. Finishing up the wiring on my project, go to find the key to start it for the first time in 3 years with the key, and NO KEY!!!!. I cant find it. I know i just had it because i used it to put the ignition in... Can you get the ignition out without having a key??? Bummed. __________________ New project. 1971 Twin Turbo blazer http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=676047 My new YOUTUBE channel.. Videos of my truck and a current walk around. Lyrikz74 Youtube channel *DONE! SOLD!* My 1971 stepside build thread My Build Thread UPDATED 6/11. DONE and sold.

01-19-2010, 02:27 PM	#3
LockDoc The Older Generation Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Posts: 25,402	Re: What a bummer. - The ignition cylinder won't come out without the key. If it has the original locks take the passenger door lock out and have a key made from the code number on it... LockDoc __________________ Leon Locksmith, Specializing In Antique Trucks, Automobiles, & Motorcycles (My Dually Pickup Project Thread) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=829820 -

01-19-2010, 02:41 PM	#5
trucks72 trucks72 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Crossville Posts: 315	Re: What a bummer. I have drilled out the cylinder before. Just start with a small bit and get bigger each time. Do not go to big or it will mess up the housing in the back. If you drill it the springs and clips will release and fall out. Then you can take the cyl. out. You could also get a locksmith to come by. That would be the easiest but costly way.

01-19-2010, 02:47 PM	#7
dfwright Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 1,374	Re: What a bummer. Sounds like it's time to turn everything inside out looking for that original key! __________________ 1972 C10 LWB, 350/350 Deconstruction began 5/2009, mostly completed restoration, 5/2017

01-19-2010, 02:51 PM	#8
usmcchevy Has more rust than truck... Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Ivanhoe, MN Posts: 2,421	Re: What a bummer. Yep just start drilling, once you get a hole made try to grab the stainless face off the lock cyl with a pair of pliers and rip it off. Thats all I needed in my '69 cab, but looking at the lock cyl from my '72 it wouldnt work due to two extra ridges. Good luck __________________ 1972 Custom/10 SWB, 4.8/4l80e Build thread LSx Swap FAQ index

01-19-2010, 03:54 PM	#9
PanelDeland I am a Referee of life. Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Greensboro N.C. Posts: 13,993	Re: What a bummer. When you get it out and replaced have a spare key made and put it in your wallet.It will fit in the slot where the credit card you used to use to pay locksmiths went. __________________ The 47-present Chevrolet and GMC Truck Message Board Network,it's owners,moderators,members,and associates of any type should not be held responsible for my opinion. You can't fix stupid,not even with duct tape. "My appearance is due to the fact that "GOD" does punish you for having too much fun!" Barrett-Jackson has perfected alchemy,they make rust into gold! "You can lead a horse to water but you can't saddle a duck" "Cleverly disguised as a 'Responsible Adult' "Sometimes your Knight in shining armor is just a retard in tinfoil"

01-19-2010, 04:28 PM	#10
mr48chev Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Toppenish, WA Posts: 15,433	Re: What a bummer. First find a fist full of old GM keys and try the most worn out ones first to see if you can get the switch to turn then pop the tumbler out and take it to the locksmith. Somewhere around ten bucks to have a key coded in most places. I've got a ring with about a hundred keys on it that has bailed me out more than once on these.

01-19-2010, 05:39 PM	#12
suprachrgd82 Farmtruck desciple Join Date: May 2009 Location: 90605 Posts: 158	Re: What a bummer. The lint trap in the washer.

01-19-2010, 06:45 PM	#14
dfwright Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 1,374	Re: What a bummer. I hate when I do that. I can remember I put something someplace special so I wouldn't lose it, but that's all I can remember. And the clever "never forget" spots are usually someplace you'll never expect to look later. I feel for you -- been there and done that __________________ 1972 C10 LWB, 350/350 Deconstruction began 5/2009, mostly completed restoration, 5/2017

01-19-2010, 06:58 PM	#16
chas350 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Connecticut Posts: 581	Re: What a bummer. That is a bummer, good luck. I bet the key turns up as soon as you are done wrecking the current new switch, happens every time. I have to write everything down on paper to have even a slight chance of remembering! Thats assuming I remember to write it down... __________________ "I'll Procrastinate Tomorrow" quote by LEEVON 71 K10 long fleet (sons truck) new 370hp 355, sm465 np205, 3.73's 33's 70 K20 long fleet 98 G3500 work van

01-19-2010, 07:08 PM	#18
PanelDeland I am a Referee of life. Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Greensboro N.C. Posts: 13,993	Re: What a bummer. Worked with a gut who lost his keys(I was at his apartment when he lost them).He went a week looking for them and finally paid like $60.00 for new apartment keys,and overnight from OK to get the spare his folks had for the car.The next night we finished the case of beer he had carried in and his keys were under the empty box.He just let go of them when he set down the beer. __________________ The 47-present Chevrolet and GMC Truck Message Board Network,it's owners,moderators,members,and associates of any type should not be held responsible for my opinion. You can't fix stupid,not even with duct tape. "My appearance is due to the fact that "GOD" does punish you for having too much fun!" Barrett-Jackson has perfected alchemy,they make rust into gold! "You can lead a horse to water but you can't saddle a duck" "Cleverly disguised as a 'Responsible Adult' "Sometimes your Knight in shining armor is just a retard in tinfoil"

01-19-2010, 07:51 PM	#19
ratpackv8sonly Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Las Cruces New Mexico Posts: 214	Re: What a bummer. check inbetween the seat in the truck. Lost mine for a year an one day i went out an stuck my hand between the seat coushion an there were.

01-19-2010, 07:56 PM	#21
nickp51chevy Registered Chevy Owner Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Snohomish, wa Posts: 1,557	Re: What a bummer. I have a couple of keys for my '71. You're more than welcome to use them and see if they'll work. sent PM __________________ Love is fleeting, but Chevy trucks are forever!!!! 1970 Chevy CST C10 long box 350/400 2008 Chevy Silverado short box 4x4 Had; 1951 Chevy short box 307/T5 1988 Chevy shot box 4x4 350/350 1971 Chevy C10 long box 4x4 350/350 1971 Chevy C20 long box 350/350 1971 Chevy C10 long box 350/350 Last edited by nickp51chevy; 01-19-2010 at 07:59 PM.

01-19-2010, 08:47 PM	#22
71 super Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Canton North carolina Posts: 3,079	Re: What a bummer. Did you put them in the ashtray? I usually throw a spare in there. Also have a set in the tool box... On top if the frig, dryer or near the sink? Young child in the house? they maybe in a toy box, purse or the barbie corvette, I found mine in all of these locations from time to time. Good luck. __________________ 67 blue step side- bb 68 gold and white swb cst anniversary 68 custom swb hot rod Ls swap 69 swb cst 6 cylinder/ overdrive 69 black/black cst bb swb 70 orange and white cst Canada built truck swb bb 71 black and white super swb bb 71 red and white super swb 72 green and white super swb 4x4 62 nova wagon 400 series Ls swapped 68 Camaro 327/4 speed- 1 owner, original paint 66 Volkswagen bettle 69 auto stick Volkswagen Beetle

01-19-2010, 08:51 PM	#23
Mxracer202 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: RC, South Dakota. Posts: 164	Re: What a bummer. That sucks Bought my 67 from a friend who says he has the keys but I doubt he can find them along with the title, now he lives a ways away so now im wondering what to do when the time comes to start it up. __________________ 58 Jeep willys pickup 67 K10 4x4- soon to be trail truck TROUBLE MAKER RACING "If you can't stand BEHIND our troops, please stand in FRONT of them."



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01-19-2010, 09:00 PM	#24
usmcchevy Has more rust than truck... Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Ivanhoe, MN Posts: 2,421	Re: What a bummer. What exactly keeps the cylinder in?? Just the metal face? Ripping the metal face off might (depending on the design of the lock cyl) allow you to unscrew the benzel. I never tried to save my switch, just swapped out everything. __________________ 1972 Custom/10 SWB, 4.8/4l80e Build thread LSx Swap FAQ index Last edited by usmcchevy; 01-19-2010 at 09:01 PM.

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cerjio Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: coffeyville, Kansas Posts: 195	Re: What a bummer. order a whole new assembly from LMC

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