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rennalds · 01-19-2010, 05:05 PM

So I ordered a new dress up kit for my sons 71 cheyenne. Problem is that the valve covers don't have holes for some hoses that are on his original valve covers. There are some hoses linking the two valve covers on his original ones. Anyone have any ideas on how to remedy this. Also his original air filter has an arm the connects to the exhaust manifold whats this for? The new air filter didn't come with this either. Any solutions would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!!!!!!!!!!!

au03z71 · 01-19-2010, 05:51 PM

The short answer: you don't need either of them. As long as you have a port for a PCV valve on one of the valve covers and an oil fill hole on the other, you're good to go. And, I have no idea what the arm that comes off of the air filter is for. I've never seen one and would hazard that you don't need it either.

Hubscrub · 01-19-2010, 07:51 PM

the stock air cleaner some have a flap in the "arm" that sticks out and the pipe form the manifold would supply heat to that. if you are running a open element cleaner like the chrome ones there is no need for this pipe

rennalds · 01-19-2010, 08:02 PM

Do I have to plug the hole where the pipe connects to the mainfold????

haysonj · 01-19-2010, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by rennalds

Do I have to plug the hole where the pipe connects to the mainfold????

That hole is just sheet metal around the manifold and can be removed or just left as is.

cdowns · 01-19-2010, 09:22 PM

the thing with inexpensive dress up valve covers is they usually dont have baffles for the PVC syatem to work properly like the factory ones had// your oil consumption may go way up and you might have problems fouling plugs with non baffeled valve covers

Sinister · 01-19-2010, 09:25 PM

If the valve covers aren't baffled, you can get baffled breather grommets.

Frankie Humphries · 01-19-2010, 11:15 PM

just make sure they have baffles in there b4 you start driving it around and stuff or you will have oil everywhere. trust me, thats what happened to me. me and my dad made sum baffles out of some thin sheets of metal and pop rivited them in mine. (cheap solution) make sure you have a hole for the pcv valve and run it to the air cleaner so it can breath. and make your baffle under the oil fill cap drain easy so you can change the oil easily. if you dont, it will be a pain in the butt putting oil in the engine. good luck!

rennalds · 01-20-2010, 01:54 PM

hmm so should i get some better valve covers then? also im guessing the hose that attaches to the stock air filter is for the pcv valve right? how can i attach it to the new chrome filter? dammit i think i should have spent more $$ on this one lol. thanks for everyones help

Sinister · 01-20-2010, 02:02 PM

Don't give up so quick. Take a peek at the back side of the valve covers and see if there's a baffle behind the hole for the breathers. If they don't have baffles you can get breather grommets with baffles from Summit for a buck or two.

rennalds · 01-20-2010, 03:06 PM

Found on summit and yeah they cheap, but how do I vent my pcv to the air filter? Also just so I understand I only need a breather on one valve cover and the hole in the other is for Oil in right? LOL I know I sound stupid but I cant help it!!! Thanks again

Sinister · 01-20-2010, 03:26 PM

I ran my PCV to the front of the carb, though I guess you could run it to the back of the aircleaner if it has the nipple to attach the hose to. PCV on one valve cover, breather on the other. You can pull the breather to add oil.

**michael bustamante** · 01-20-2010, 05:23 PM

im running a quadrajet and I just ran a hose from the pcv to the front of the carb, no need to run it to an open air cleaner

rennalds · 01-20-2010, 05:28 PM

I guess what I am asking is I have a hose that comes from the intake/ carb that goes to the air filter. What should I do with that???????

Sinister · 01-20-2010, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rennalds

I guess what I am asking is I have a hose that comes from the intake/ carb that goes to the air filter. What should I do with that???????

Do you have a pic of that?

rennalds · 01-20-2010, 07:03 PM

ill post some pics tonight, thanks forr all the great help

Hubscrub · 01-20-2010, 07:30 PM

this is my setup on my 71 the blue arrow is the push in breater/oil fill hole,the green arrow is the port on my carb that the hose from the pvc valve (yellow line )connects to and the red arrow is the hole where the pvc valve is installed in the valve cover (i have a rag in the hole in the pic.) hope this helps

Jacfourteen · 01-20-2010, 08:02 PM

that looks right, did you see if there are baffles in there?

rennalds · 01-21-2010, 01:34 PM

Valve covers are baffled. On the original ones this a big hose< I'm guessing its the breather going to the back of the carb and a smaller hose going to the front (PCV ?). Then I still have a small vacuum type hose going fro the carb to the air filter. I'm guessing I can just get rid ove the breather hose and the hose from the carb to the air filter. Am I correct? I tried to take photos but they came out really crappy!

Sinister · 01-21-2010, 02:49 PM

Get rid of all that, cap any open ports that you aren't gonna use. Breather in one valve cover, PCV in the other, run PCV to front of carb. There might be an issue with the aircleaner and the carb, assuming you have a Quadrajet. You might need a spacer. You can use the spacer that's already there, and just trim it and plug any open holes on it.

rennalds · 01-21-2010, 03:05 PM

so i have to plug the holes in the carb how do i do that?

Sinister · 01-21-2010, 03:08 PM

Auto parts store should have little rubber caps to cap the ports with.

rennalds · 01-21-2010, 07:23 PM

ok i think im set, just one last questio on the kit from summitt the oil breather grommett isnt an open hole, am i supposed to cut it open??

Sinister · 01-21-2010, 07:31 PM

I cut the bottom off mine because I have baffles.

01-19-2010, 05:05 PM	#1
rennalds Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: vacaville california Posts: 109	Engine Dress Up Kit So I ordered a new dress up kit for my sons 71 cheyenne. Problem is that the valve covers don't have holes for some hoses that are on his original valve covers. There are some hoses linking the two valve covers on his original ones. Anyone have any ideas on how to remedy this. Also his original air filter has an arm the connects to the exhaust manifold whats this for? The new air filter didn't come with this either. Any solutions would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!!!!!!!!!!!

01-19-2010, 05:51 PM	#2
au03z71 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: alabama Posts: 647	Re: Engine Dress Up Kit The short answer: you don't need either of them. As long as you have a port for a PCV valve on one of the valve covers and an oil fill hole on the other, you're good to go. And, I have no idea what the arm that comes off of the air filter is for. I've never seen one and would hazard that you don't need it either.

01-19-2010, 07:51 PM	#3
Hubscrub Cruzin Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: on the road Posts: 2,835	Re: Engine Dress Up Kit the stock air cleaner some have a flap in the "arm" that sticks out and the pipe form the manifold would supply heat to that. if you are running a open element cleaner like the chrome ones there is no need for this pipe

01-19-2010, 08:02 PM	#4
rennalds Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: vacaville california Posts: 109	Re: Engine Dress Up Kit Do I have to plug the hole where the pipe connects to the mainfold????

01-19-2010, 09:22 PM	#6
cdowns Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: daytonabeach Posts: 22,956	Re: Engine Dress Up Kit the thing with inexpensive dress up valve covers is they usually dont have baffles for the PVC syatem to work properly like the factory ones had// your oil consumption may go way up and you might have problems fouling plugs with non baffeled valve covers __________________ 71c-10 350/2004r/4:11 lowered3/4 longbed/dead by hurricane MEANING OF DEATH::::: SOMEBODY ELSE GETS YOUR STUFF DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU THINK TAKE MY ADVISE;I DON'T USE IT ANYWAY

01-19-2010, 09:25 PM	#7
Sinister Between Trucks... Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA. Posts: 3,830	Re: Engine Dress Up Kit If the valve covers aren't baffled, you can get baffled breather grommets. __________________ Beat it to fit, Paint it to match...

01-19-2010, 11:15 PM	#8
Frankie Humphries Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 15	Re: Engine Dress Up Kit just make sure they have baffles in there b4 you start driving it around and stuff or you will have oil everywhere. trust me, thats what happened to me. me and my dad made sum baffles out of some thin sheets of metal and pop rivited them in mine. (cheap solution) make sure you have a hole for the pcv valve and run it to the air cleaner so it can breath. and make your baffle under the oil fill cap drain easy so you can change the oil easily. if you dont, it will be a pain in the butt putting oil in the engine. good luck!

01-20-2010, 01:54 PM	#9
rennalds Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: vacaville california Posts: 109	Re: Engine Dress Up Kit hmm so should i get some better valve covers then? also im guessing the hose that attaches to the stock air filter is for the pcv valve right? how can i attach it to the new chrome filter? dammit i think i should have spent more $$ on this one lol. thanks for everyones help

01-20-2010, 02:02 PM	#10
Sinister Between Trucks... Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA. Posts: 3,830	Re: Engine Dress Up Kit Don't give up so quick. Take a peek at the back side of the valve covers and see if there's a baffle behind the hole for the breathers. If they don't have baffles you can get breather grommets with baffles from Summit for a buck or two. __________________ Beat it to fit, Paint it to match...

01-20-2010, 03:06 PM	#11
rennalds Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: vacaville california Posts: 109	Re: Engine Dress Up Kit Found on summit and yeah they cheap, but how do I vent my pcv to the air filter? Also just so I understand I only need a breather on one valve cover and the hole in the other is for Oil in right? LOL I know I sound stupid but I cant help it!!! Thanks again

01-20-2010, 03:26 PM	#12
Sinister Between Trucks... Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA. Posts: 3,830	Re: Engine Dress Up Kit I ran my PCV to the front of the carb, though I guess you could run it to the back of the aircleaner if it has the nipple to attach the hose to. PCV on one valve cover, breather on the other. You can pull the breather to add oil. __________________ Beat it to fit, Paint it to match...

01-20-2010, 05:23 PM	#13
michael bustamante Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Albuquerque NM Posts: 7,843	Re: Engine Dress Up Kit im running a quadrajet and I just ran a hose from the pcv to the front of the carb, no need to run it to an open air cleaner __________________ 1967custom

01-20-2010, 05:28 PM	#14
rennalds Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: vacaville california Posts: 109	Re: Engine Dress Up Kit I guess what I am asking is I have a hose that comes from the intake/ carb that goes to the air filter. What should I do with that???????

01-20-2010, 07:03 PM	#16
rennalds Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: vacaville california Posts: 109	Re: Engine Dress Up Kit ill post some pics tonight, thanks forr all the great help

01-20-2010, 07:30 PM	#17
Hubscrub Cruzin Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: on the road Posts: 2,835	Re: Engine Dress Up Kit this is my setup on my 71 the blue arrow is the push in breater/oil fill hole,the green arrow is the port on my carb that the hose from the pvc valve (yellow line )connects to and the red arrow is the hole where the pvc valve is installed in the valve cover (i have a rag in the hole in the pic.) hope this helps Last edited by Hubscrub; 01-20-2010 at 07:32 PM. Reason: left out a couple of words



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01-20-2010, 08:02 PM	#18
Jacfourteen Big Red - Now its a SWB! Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Oroville, Ca Posts: 1,624	Re: Engine Dress Up Kit that looks right, did you see if there are baffles in there? __________________ 68 3/4 ton (Project)-350 Small Block, .030 over, 10:1 comp, 3998993 heads, C3BX edelbrock intake, comp cams XE268, Holley 670 SA, long tube headers, dual flow 40's, E-fan, Alum rad, currently under the knife getting shortened and bagged build thread 41 3/4 ton (wife's)-flatbed, fully restored to original 01 Tahoe LT 4WD (my daily driver)-Magnaflow Muffler, Rollin on 22's 02 Ford Mustang Convertable (Wife's Car)-Flowmaster 50, Clear corners, Intake, sittin on 18's

01-21-2010, 01:34 PM	#19
rennalds Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: vacaville california Posts: 109	Re: Engine Dress Up Kit Valve covers are baffled. On the original ones this a big hose< I'm guessing its the breather going to the back of the carb and a smaller hose going to the front (PCV ?). Then I still have a small vacuum type hose going fro the carb to the air filter. I'm guessing I can just get rid ove the breather hose and the hose from the carb to the air filter. Am I correct? I tried to take photos but they came out really crappy!

01-21-2010, 02:49 PM	#20
Sinister Between Trucks... Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA. Posts: 3,830	Re: Engine Dress Up Kit Get rid of all that, cap any open ports that you aren't gonna use. Breather in one valve cover, PCV in the other, run PCV to front of carb. There might be an issue with the aircleaner and the carb, assuming you have a Quadrajet. You might need a spacer. You can use the spacer that's already there, and just trim it and plug any open holes on it. __________________ Beat it to fit, Paint it to match...

01-21-2010, 03:05 PM	#21
rennalds Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: vacaville california Posts: 109	Re: Engine Dress Up Kit so i have to plug the holes in the carb how do i do that?

01-21-2010, 03:08 PM	#22
Sinister Between Trucks... Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA. Posts: 3,830	Re: Engine Dress Up Kit Auto parts store should have little rubber caps to cap the ports with. __________________ Beat it to fit, Paint it to match...

01-21-2010, 07:23 PM	#23
rennalds Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: vacaville california Posts: 109	Re: Engine Dress Up Kit ok i think im set, just one last questio on the kit from summitt the oil breather grommett isnt an open hole, am i supposed to cut it open??

01-21-2010, 07:31 PM	#24
Sinister Between Trucks... Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA. Posts: 3,830	Re: Engine Dress Up Kit I cut the bottom off mine because I have baffles. __________________ Beat it to fit, Paint it to match... Last edited by Sinister; 01-21-2010 at 07:37 PM.

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