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jay-dawg · 05-08-2003, 10:54 PM

Alright,
I'm looking at a 95 LT1 out of a 95 Z28 camaro. Owner says it's from a car w/ back end damage. He has all the wiring, ecu, accesories, even the fuel pump.

I did a search and this is what problems come up:

1)Notching the frame where the A/C is.(I do plan to have A/C in these humid Hawaii weather).

2)Use the inline 6 mount holes to give more clearance between engine and radiator.

3)custom engine mounts.

4)wiring harness for column shift. (Probably go with an
aftermarket tilt from flaming river or something to make it easier)

5)buy speedo conversion

6)use auto crossmember moved towards the rear.

7) shorten drive shaft.

Anything else I missed?

Project1970 · 05-08-2003, 11:04 PM

I don't think you need to fab mounts for the LT1, it should bolt up like any older smallblock.

adamls · 05-08-2003, 11:06 PM

I think instead of notching the fram for AC you can use the corvette brackets which moves the AC to the driver side and up away from the frame.

jay-dawg · 05-09-2003, 12:57 PM

Project 1970 I thought that was what I read with the engine mounts. Well, that's good, less to shell out for.

Adamls that's better but those hose lines would certainly be an eyesore unless I run it against the radiator and then back along the passenger side.

crazy4chevs · 05-09-2003, 04:24 PM

These guys have a tailshaft that lets you run your stock speedo and still has the hookup for the computer.

http://www.hotrodlane.cc/

NPilot1975 · 05-09-2003, 07:35 PM

I haven't gotten mine running yet, but have installed a 1995 Z28 LT-1/4L60E in my 1972 Chevy Chassis. it mounts with the stock 67-72 Chevy motor mounts and stock auto trans crossmember. You can use either the 6 cyl or V8 mounts, you will have to run electric fans so clearance is not an issue.

If you need wiring/computer work, this guy does a great job: http://www.speartech.com/

Also, you can find anything for the engine from Street and Performance: http://www.hotrodlane.cc, they are a little pricey but have great stuff. They also have a tell shaft to run your stock speedo, I went with a custom dash with electronic instruments.

You will need to get custom accessory brackets or run the Corvette setup.

Any other questions feel free to e-mail me, NPilot1975@aol.com.
My truck should be up and running very soon.

gmc67swb · 05-09-2003, 08:46 PM

HAS ANYONE ADDRESSED THE REVERSE FLOW COOLING THAT THESE CARS CAME WITH. I BELIEVE THE WATER GOES THROUGH THE HEADS FIRST. NOT SURE IF THERE'S ANYTHING SPECIFIC TO BE DONE THERE OR NOT. I THINK YOU CAN SWITCH TO THE LT1 SET UP FROM THE IMPALA SS OR 9C1 POLICE PACKAGE CAPRICE TO GET THE AC WHERE YOU WANT IT.

chevyman 68 C/10 · 05-09-2003, 09:39 PM

One other item is the fuel lines and pump. I had a custom tank built and put a hole in the top to mount the part around the original fuel tank off of the 96 trans am donor car, so I could use the stock pump. A return line also has to be installed.
If you choose to use a pump mounted out side the tank it will work but is not nearly as effective.
I chose to use the 6 cylinder mounting holes so i could get better weight transfer and handling, it looked better to me slid back also.
Getting it to mount up is a snap and does not take very long at all, you will need v8 mounting brackets.
Headers are not a problem, any for a chevy truck will work just fine but remember that you will need the o2 sencer in the colecter or header.
The corvette brackets work good but are hard the find and they put every thing on the drivers side just backwards from the camaro firebird ones.
I am buying Street and performance brackets ans pulleys, but WOW they are really expensive.
I bought a wiring harness from a company called Howell becouse it was a little cheeper than Street and performance. They can also reprogram your computer to get the bugs that you dont want in your new set up.
If I can help you just ask.

jay-dawg · 05-09-2003, 10:10 PM

man...is this board great or what!!!

thanks guys.

jay

minibike · 05-09-2003, 11:47 PM

There is really too much to cover in a post, but it sounds like you have it pretty much understood. I notched my frame and motor mount to clear the camaro ac unit. The camaro radiator and fans fit great, just move the radiator bracket back about an inch...

I wish I would have mounted the engine further back (6 cylinder location), but it fits either way.

If you have a broad band or good connection, I can send many pictures.

jay-dawg · 05-10-2003, 12:09 AM

your website is one of the few inspirations minibike.

send it over:

dvljr@wwdb.org

jay-dawg · 05-10-2003, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by chevyman 68 C/10

I am buying Street and performance brackets ans pulleys, but WOW they are really expensive.

do they keep the a/c comp on the passenger side?I'm gonna go look at their site.

jay

NPilot1975 · 05-10-2003, 12:50 PM

S&P brackets mount the a/c compressor high on the passenger side, the alt. high on the driver side, and the p/s pump low on the left, closer to the steering box.

jay-dawg · 05-17-2003, 10:23 PM

Quote:

The Engine and trans have just over 71000 miles, ran excellent when pulled. The car was rear ended while parked, I bought it from the owner, who then pulled the engine for me.

I have:
1) Engine
2) Transmission
3) Harness
4) PCM (computer)
5) In-tank fuel pump (stock)
6) Air Box
7) MAF

I do not have:
1) Y-pipe with O2 sensors
2) rubber boot from T/B to MAF
3) Radiator
4) Cooling fan assembly

This is what I got back from the guy. He wont budge from $2500. If I use an aftermarket fuel tank from ECE, how hard is it to install the fuel pump?

Jay

minibike · 05-17-2003, 11:16 PM

That is not a bad price, but you may want ot get the radiator, condensing coils, fans, etc. They will fit in our trucks.

NPilot1975 · 05-18-2003, 01:18 PM

Rock Valley Antiques makes stainless steel tanks that can have the pump in the tank. The cost around $850, which is the tank with a baffle installed and the pump in the tank, made to your specifications. There website is http://www.rockvalleyantiqueautoparts.com/ndex.htm

jay-dawg · 05-18-2003, 01:45 PM

wow, $850. I thought I saw an article with ECE or something build a custom tank and had the fuel pump etc attached to it. I'll try and find it somewhere and give an update.

jay

NPilot1975 · 05-18-2003, 02:19 PM

The tank is around 400 and the pump is around 300. I priced them from everyone. RV allows you to send them a plan and they build it for you

*dtlilly* · 05-18-2003, 02:47 PM

I have a question regarding the fuel tank and pump.

I have an 88 Pontiac TA, with TPI 350ci, auto tranny. I want to put it in one of our trucks. Sounds like it will drop in fine. I will be using all wiring, computer, fuse blocks, sensors, exhaust, radiator, etc.

Can I fit the TA gas tank and pump under the rear of our trucks?

NPilot1975 · 05-18-2003, 02:51 PM

I am not sure. If you remove the spare tire carrier and the rear crossmember and make one for the end of the frame on a short bed, you have 21" from the forward crossmember to the back one and 27.5" between the frame rails.

*dtlilly* · 05-18-2003, 03:13 PM

Hmmmm, Thanks.

Wootdog · 05-18-2003, 05:45 PM

Can you guys send me pics also? That is what is in the new project I have. LT1 with the 4L60. I also need pics of the plumbing, IE connections on the top of the motor for the metal pieces, and of course the sensors.Thanks in advance Wootdog

Jackal2k9 · 05-18-2003, 06:05 PM

a guy is selling me a 94' rolled caprice for 1500. (lt1 / 4l60e / 88k) Steal? I have seen them on ebay for less tho. ecm reprogram and harness re-working seems to run about 400 bucks. any one know if it's done less anywhere else?

btw caprice has a/c compressor on upper driverside.

minibike · 05-18-2003, 06:15 PM

I could not fit the 94 camaro tank in my truck... I had a custom one made by a boat builder...$215. I used the camaro sending unit and pump, saving big $.

mtwheels · 05-29-2003, 12:46 PM

This is great info...I just bought my 72 C-10 over the weekend and am excited to get it started. I checked out your website minibike and the pics are great. Fortunatley, My father-in-Law has a police edition caprice with the LT1. I can basically have it. I have an I6 in it right now that has been overhauled. It has triple carbs, I thought that was cool, hadn't seen them before. The 6 will make it move...it's amazing. I can't wait to get the LT1 in though. I can't wait to get started with my new project. Any initial words of wisdom from anyone as I get started?
Thanks!

05-08-2003, 10:54 PM	#1
jay-dawg chevelito Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Honolulu, HI USA Posts: 1,609	beating this question to death! LT1/4L60E Alright, I'm looking at a 95 LT1 out of a 95 Z28 camaro. Owner says it's from a car w/ back end damage. He has all the wiring, ecu, accesories, even the fuel pump. I did a search and this is what problems come up: 1)Notching the frame where the A/C is.(I do plan to have A/C in these humid Hawaii weather). 2)Use the inline 6 mount holes to give more clearance between engine and radiator. 3)custom engine mounts. 4)wiring harness for column shift. (Probably go with an aftermarket tilt from flaming river or something to make it easier) 5)buy speedo conversion 6)use auto crossmember moved towards the rear. 7) shorten drive shaft. Anything else I missed? __________________ New deadline...when my son can drive. Aloha from Honolulu, HI

05-08-2003, 11:04 PM	#2
Project1970 14.1 @ 96MPH Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 2,811	I don't think you need to fab mounts for the LT1, it should bolt up like any older smallblock. __________________ Project1970 - LS1 Swap Complete!

05-08-2003, 11:06 PM	#3
adamls Gotta Startem Early Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Amarillo, TX, USA Posts: 364	I think instead of notching the fram for AC you can use the corvette brackets which moves the AC to the driver side and up away from the frame. __________________ 67 SWB In Progress, one piece at a time, maybe 3 years I will be finished

05-09-2003, 12:57 PM	#4
jay-dawg chevelito Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Honolulu, HI USA Posts: 1,609	Project 1970 I thought that was what I read with the engine mounts. Well, that's good, less to shell out for. Adamls that's better but those hose lines would certainly be an eyesore unless I run it against the radiator and then back along the passenger side. __________________ New deadline...when my son can drive. Aloha from Honolulu, HI

05-09-2003, 04:24 PM	#5
crazy4chevs Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Des Moines WA. (Kent, area) Posts: 668	These guys have a tailshaft that lets you run your stock speedo and still has the hookup for the computer. http://www.hotrodlane.cc/ __________________ 70 chev c10 swb fleet 72 grill, sb 400, 2/4 drop. 68 chev c10 swb fleet Early classic 4/6 drop with 4wheel disc brakes 9"rear 67-8 buckets tilt and A/C Classic GM Truck Club of Washington .

05-09-2003, 07:35 PM	#6
NPilot1975 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Plymouth, MA Posts: 891	I haven't gotten mine running yet, but have installed a 1995 Z28 LT-1/4L60E in my 1972 Chevy Chassis. it mounts with the stock 67-72 Chevy motor mounts and stock auto trans crossmember. You can use either the 6 cyl or V8 mounts, you will have to run electric fans so clearance is not an issue. If you need wiring/computer work, this guy does a great job: http://www.speartech.com/ Also, you can find anything for the engine from Street and Performance: http://www.hotrodlane.cc, they are a little pricey but have great stuff. They also have a tell shaft to run your stock speedo, I went with a custom dash with electronic instruments. You will need to get custom accessory brackets or run the Corvette setup. Any other questions feel free to e-mail me, NPilot1975@aol.com. My truck should be up and running very soon. __________________ 1972 Blazer body...need to get a thread started for the rest of the story

05-09-2003, 08:46 PM	#7
gmc67swb Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Mesquite, Tx Posts: 396	HAS ANYONE ADDRESSED THE REVERSE FLOW COOLING THAT THESE CARS CAME WITH. I BELIEVE THE WATER GOES THROUGH THE HEADS FIRST. NOT SURE IF THERE'S ANYTHING SPECIFIC TO BE DONE THERE OR NOT. I THINK YOU CAN SWITCH TO THE LT1 SET UP FROM THE IMPALA SS OR 9C1 POLICE PACKAGE CAPRICE TO GET THE AC WHERE YOU WANT IT. __________________ GM 330HP/350, Magnuson 122HH, Tremec TKO 5spd

05-09-2003, 09:39 PM	#8
chevyman 68 C/10 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Gilmer, Texas USA Posts: 313	One other item is the fuel lines and pump. I had a custom tank built and put a hole in the top to mount the part around the original fuel tank off of the 96 trans am donor car, so I could use the stock pump. A return line also has to be installed. If you choose to use a pump mounted out side the tank it will work but is not nearly as effective. I chose to use the 6 cylinder mounting holes so i could get better weight transfer and handling, it looked better to me slid back also. Getting it to mount up is a snap and does not take very long at all, you will need v8 mounting brackets. Headers are not a problem, any for a chevy truck will work just fine but remember that you will need the o2 sencer in the colecter or header. The corvette brackets work good but are hard the find and they put every thing on the drivers side just backwards from the camaro firebird ones. I am buying Street and performance brackets ans pulleys, but WOW they are really expensive. I bought a wiring harness from a company called Howell becouse it was a little cheeper than Street and performance. They can also reprogram your computer to get the bugs that you dont want in your new set up. If I can help you just ask. __________________ 69 Chevy short fleet side soon to have LT1 and 4L60E pb. ps cruise and air. 68 Chevy short fleet side 400 sb 5 inch chop top pb. ps. pw. 350 auto and shaved handles 68 anniversary no engine long wheel base 400 auto FOR SALE 68 Chevy fleet side long wheel base complete parts truck.

05-09-2003, 10:10 PM	#9
jay-dawg chevelito Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Honolulu, HI USA Posts: 1,609	man...is this board great or what!!! thanks guys. jay __________________ New deadline...when my son can drive. Aloha from Honolulu, HI

05-09-2003, 11:47 PM	#10
minibike Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Lafayette, LA Posts: 500	There is really too much to cover in a post, but it sounds like you have it pretty much understood. I notched my frame and motor mount to clear the camaro ac unit. The camaro radiator and fans fit great, just move the radiator bracket back about an inch... I wish I would have mounted the engine further back (6 cylinder location), but it fits either way. If you have a broad band or good connection, I can send many pictures. __________________ 69 SWB LT1/4L60E www.classicplace.com

05-10-2003, 12:09 AM	#11
jay-dawg chevelito Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Honolulu, HI USA Posts: 1,609	your website is one of the few inspirations minibike. send it over: dvljr@wwdb.org __________________ New deadline...when my son can drive. Aloha from Honolulu, HI

05-10-2003, 12:50 PM	#13
NPilot1975 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Plymouth, MA Posts: 891	S&P brackets mount the a/c compressor high on the passenger side, the alt. high on the driver side, and the p/s pump low on the left, closer to the steering box. __________________ 1972 Blazer body...need to get a thread started for the rest of the story

05-17-2003, 11:16 PM	#15
minibike Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Lafayette, LA Posts: 500	That is not a bad price, but you may want ot get the radiator, condensing coils, fans, etc. They will fit in our trucks. __________________ 69 SWB LT1/4L60E www.classicplace.com

05-18-2003, 01:18 PM	#16
NPilot1975 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Plymouth, MA Posts: 891	Rock Valley Antiques makes stainless steel tanks that can have the pump in the tank. The cost around $850, which is the tank with a baffle installed and the pump in the tank, made to your specifications. There website is http://www.rockvalleyantiqueautoparts.com/ndex.htm __________________ 1972 Blazer body...need to get a thread started for the rest of the story

05-18-2003, 01:45 PM	#17
jay-dawg chevelito Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Honolulu, HI USA Posts: 1,609	wow, $850. I thought I saw an article with ECE or something build a custom tank and had the fuel pump etc attached to it. I'll try and find it somewhere and give an update. jay __________________ New deadline...when my son can drive. Aloha from Honolulu, HI



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05-18-2003, 02:19 PM	#18
NPilot1975 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Plymouth, MA Posts: 891	The tank is around 400 and the pump is around 300. I priced them from everyone. RV allows you to send them a plan and they build it for you __________________ 1972 Blazer body...need to get a thread started for the rest of the story

05-18-2003, 02:47 PM	#19
dtlilly Account Suspended Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Shadow of Lambeau Field Posts: 5,597	I have a question regarding the fuel tank and pump. I have an 88 Pontiac TA, with TPI 350ci, auto tranny. I want to put it in one of our trucks. Sounds like it will drop in fine. I will be using all wiring, computer, fuse blocks, sensors, exhaust, radiator, etc. Can I fit the TA gas tank and pump under the rear of our trucks?

05-18-2003, 02:51 PM	#20
NPilot1975 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Plymouth, MA Posts: 891	I am not sure. If you remove the spare tire carrier and the rear crossmember and make one for the end of the frame on a short bed, you have 21" from the forward crossmember to the back one and 27.5" between the frame rails. __________________ 1972 Blazer body...need to get a thread started for the rest of the story

05-18-2003, 03:13 PM	#21
dtlilly Account Suspended Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Shadow of Lambeau Field Posts: 5,597	Hmmmm, Thanks.

05-18-2003, 05:45 PM	#22
Wootdog Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Virginia Beach, Va, USA Posts: 1,680	RE Pics Can you guys send me pics also? That is what is in the new project I have. LT1 with the 4L60. I also need pics of the plumbing, IE connections on the top of the motor for the metal pieces, and of course the sensors.Thanks in advance Wootdog __________________ 1967 C10 Got it back after three years Boy I sure missed Peppy 1969 Chevelle 1990 IROC Z Convertible 2002 Silverado LT

05-18-2003, 06:05 PM	#23
Jackal2k9 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Katy, Texas Posts: 171	a guy is selling me a 94' rolled caprice for 1500. (lt1 / 4l60e / 88k) Steal? I have seen them on ebay for less tho. ecm reprogram and harness re-working seems to run about 400 bucks. any one know if it's done less anywhere else? btw caprice has a/c compressor on upper driverside.

05-18-2003, 06:15 PM	#24
minibike Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Lafayette, LA Posts: 500	I could not fit the 94 camaro tank in my truck... I had a custom one made by a boat builder...$215. I used the camaro sending unit and pump, saving big $. __________________ 69 SWB LT1/4L60E www.classicplace.com

05-29-2003, 12:46 PM	#25
mtwheels Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Corning, NY Posts: 12	This is great info...I just bought my 72 C-10 over the weekend and am excited to get it started. I checked out your website minibike and the pics are great. Fortunatley, My father-in-Law has a police edition caprice with the LT1. I can basically have it. I have an I6 in it right now that has been overhauled. It has triple carbs, I thought that was cool, hadn't seen them before. The 6 will make it move...it's amazing. I can't wait to get the LT1 in though. I can't wait to get started with my new project. Any initial words of wisdom from anyone as I get started? Thanks! __________________ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 69 C-30 327 4-spd 03 GMC Envoy (Family ride) 00 Saturn SL1 (the daily runner...40mpg :-)

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