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flips72 · 05-05-2010, 04:37 PM

oh yeah, almost forgot keep the pics coming. one question are you going to cut the back out of your cab,just wondering saw the outer piece you had cut out.

SCOTI · 05-05-2010, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by flips72

oh yeah, almost forgot keep the pics coming. one question are you going to cut the back out of your cab,just wondering saw the outer piece you had cut out.

I cut the window frame perimeter out of the scrap cab to make it easier to separate the spot welds @ the inner panel.

I'll prob panel bond the upper seam & plug weld the lower portion of the panel to the original small window flange. This should keep the paint from getting burned on the back of the cab. The current exterior paint isn't original but it's been on there a long time & I want to preserve it as much as possible. The door jamb & window-gasket pinch flange area will get spotted as well since I do intend to re-paint the interior immediately after the window swap.

GMR-PERFORMANCE · 10-06-2010, 02:53 PM

WOW this is funny I passed on at least a dozen BBW trucks to find a long box SBW.

**aerotruk63** · 10-06-2010, 05:05 PM

I used a hook knife and a hammer in that seam and it split the spotwelds nicely. Hit my hand a few times but it works well. I split the spotwelds along the door edge and around the small window opening as well with the hook knife.

jonzcustomshop · 10-06-2010, 06:03 PM

pretty strong knife, where di you get it, and how did it hold up to the welds?

**aerotruk63** · 10-06-2010, 06:14 PM

I picked it up at a hardware store. It's used for cutting carpets. The one I had came with a wooden handle, it worked well. Needed sharpening after. They don't cost much, so I wanted to try. Splits the spotwelds nicely without destroying the metal. You need to make sure your between the sections or you can cut through the metal. Do a couple, then you'll get the feel for how much of a blow is needed from the hammer. It will not work on the lower part of the BBW section to rear panel, you'll have to drill those out.

SCOTI · 10-06-2010, 11:38 PM

Flips72,

If you check in anytime soon, what rear glass seal did you use? After converting mine to a BBW, I've had 2 different seals installed. The 1st 'pinched' outward in the outer & inner lower corners. The 2nd didn't 'pinch' on the outside but you can tell where he had to mash the f*** out of it to get it to lay flat; the inside corners are still pinched outward.

iehotrod · 07-21-2011, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTI

Flips72,

If you check in anytime soon, what rear glass seal did you use? After converting mine to a BBW, I've had 2 different seals installed. The 1st 'pinched' outward in the outer & inner lower corners. The 2nd didn't 'pinch' on the outside but you can tell where he had to mash the f*** out of it to get it to lay flat; the inside corners are still pinched outward.

from who did you buys yours from? I want to make sure I don't buy there.

Frizzle Fry · 10-07-2010, 12:10 AM

Hope neither of those are from Steele Rubber. That's what I have staged for mine.

SCOTI · 10-07-2010, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Frizzle Fry

Hope neither of those are from Steele Rubber. That's what I have staged for mine.

Precision rubber on the 1st go around & some 'universal' stuff for the 2nd. The glass guy said his universal seal was the same stuff that was in the Precision bag just cheaper because he got it in bulk.

Is the Steele Rubber seal a single 157" straight piece or does it have the lower corners formed?

flips72 · 10-07-2010, 08:25 PM

i got my rear seal from classic chevy truck parts of america seems like it was around 30.00 dollars. it fit great not sure who there supplier is. mine was one solid piece had to cut about a foot off of it. did find that using the correct seal instalation tool and lots of soapy water helped alot. someone mentioned wd40 but that seemed messy to me. good luck holler if i can help.

SCOTI · 10-07-2010, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by flips72

i got my rear seal from classic chevy truck parts of america seems like it was around 30.00 dollars. it fit great not sure who there supplier is. mine was one solid piece had to cut about a foot off of it. did find that using the correct seal instalation tool and lots of soapy water helped alot. someone mentioned wd40 but that seemed messy to me. good luck holler if i can help.

One solid straight piece correct?

flips72 · 10-07-2010, 09:11 PM

yep, no preformed corners

Frizzle Fry · 10-08-2010, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SCOTI

Is the Steele Rubber seal a single 157" straight piece or does it have the lower corners formed?

I'll have to take a look. Haven't taken it out of the package.

SCOTI · 10-08-2010, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Frizzle Fry

I'll have to take a look. Haven't taken it out of the package.

As far as I know, it's one solid straight piece; I just wanted to confirm.

collins10672 · 10-08-2010, 11:30 PM

the small and large window rubber does not have moulded corners.

chad64chevy · 07-26-2011, 07:25 PM

man flip72, i never seen this thread before now! i'm saving it in my favorites so i can maybe do this sometime before i get mine on the road!! i love pictures and that helps alot for me!! thanks for doing the write-up!!

flips72 · 07-27-2011, 06:43 PM

glad it was a help, sure was nerve wracking but well worth it.

Slowtruk · 08-16-2011, 02:48 AM

I'll revive this thread by saying WOW! man your truck is beautiful especially after the BBW swap. I would LOVE to do this on my 65, but I have no idea where to find a donor chunk of metal from a BBW truck. You just dont see stuff like that around here.

I saw someone mentioned that they made a kit for this....did we every hear anything else? Wouldnt it be cool to be able to order an already formed and stamped BBW piece new out of a catalogue? But then I guess everyone would have one then.

This is a MUST on my list now!

fat60 · 08-16-2011, 06:54 AM

http://flint.craigslist.org/pts/2534300424.html

**Clyde65** · 08-16-2011, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Slowtruk

I'll revive this thread by saying WOW! man your truck is beautiful especially after the BBW swap. I would LOVE to do this on my 65, but I have no idea where to find a donor chunk of metal from a BBW truck. You just dont see stuff like that around here.

I saw someone mentioned that they made a kit for this....did we every hear anything else? Wouldnt it be cool to be able to order an already formed and stamped BBW piece new out of a catalogue? But then I guess everyone would have one then.

This is a MUST on my list now!

Try this guy, and John Gilbert from Classic Trucks Mag did this exact install. He is here on the board.

http://www.classicbigwindow.com/

darkhorse970 · 08-16-2011, 07:07 AM

On my to do list, hope to start on it in mid October. I've already located a donor cab from a buddy. This thread and Scoti's build thread will be very helpful.

iehotrod · 08-17-2011, 12:35 AM

I knnow someone selling the interior panel I believe he is asking Like $350. for but it is here in california. I bought one from him for my truck.

LostMy65 · 09-04-2011, 01:15 AM

Is anyone else amazed of how clean the inside panels are of Flips72 truck?

Slowtruk · 09-04-2011, 09:05 AM

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Is anyone else amazed of how clean the inside panels are of Flips72 truck?

?? They look kinda rusty to me....kinda like mine

05-05-2010, 04:37 PM	#1
flips72 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: oldfort tn Posts: 1,183	Re: big back glass conversion oh yeah, almost forgot keep the pics coming. one question are you going to cut the back out of your cab,just wondering saw the outer piece you had cut out.

10-06-2010, 02:53 PM	#3
GMR-PERFORMANCE Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Keller TX Posts: 836	Re: big back glass conversion WOW this is funny I passed on at least a dozen BBW trucks to find a long box SBW.

10-06-2010, 05:05 PM	#4
aerotruk63 Check The Champ, Demonstrator Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Montreal,Quebec Posts: 6,627	Re: big back glass conversion I used a hook knife and a hammer in that seam and it split the spotwelds nicely. Hit my hand a few times but it works well. I split the spotwelds along the door edge and around the small window opening as well with the hook knife. __________________ 1963 *Chevrolet Truck* Literature LINK: https://picasaweb.google.com/113840717762774560215 YouTube Channel with 20+ Original *Chevrolet Truck* Salesmen, Mechanics & Service Department Training Slideshows. https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...otruk63&page=1

10-06-2010, 06:03 PM	#5
jonzcustomshop 1961 crewcab Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: missoula, mt Posts: 6,164	Re: big back glass conversion pretty strong knife, where di you get it, and how did it hold up to the welds? __________________ 60 build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=280904 61 crew build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=646830 63 build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=336537 64 'burb build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=448681 65 'burb build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=590715 65 build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=281955

10-06-2010, 06:14 PM	#6
aerotruk63 Check The Champ, Demonstrator Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Montreal,Quebec Posts: 6,627	Re: big back glass conversion I picked it up at a hardware store. It's used for cutting carpets. The one I had came with a wooden handle, it worked well. Needed sharpening after. They don't cost much, so I wanted to try. Splits the spotwelds nicely without destroying the metal. You need to make sure your between the sections or you can cut through the metal. Do a couple, then you'll get the feel for how much of a blow is needed from the hammer. It will not work on the lower part of the BBW section to rear panel, you'll have to drill those out. __________________ 1963 *Chevrolet Truck* Literature LINK: https://picasaweb.google.com/113840717762774560215 YouTube Channel with 20+ Original *Chevrolet Truck* Salesmen, Mechanics & Service Department Training Slideshows. https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...otruk63&page=1

10-06-2010, 11:38 PM	#7
SCOTI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: DALLAS,TX Posts: 22,149	Re: big back glass conversion Flips72, If you check in anytime soon, what rear glass seal did you use? After converting mine to a BBW, I've had 2 different seals installed. The 1st 'pinched' outward in the outer & inner lower corners. The 2nd didn't 'pinch' on the outside but you can tell where he had to mash the f* out of it to get it to lay flat; the inside corners are still pinched outward. __________________ 67SWB-B.B.RetroRod 64SWB-Recycle 89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck 99CCSWB Driver All Fleetsides @rattlecankustoms in IG Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive. It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar..... Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.** Last edited by SCOTI; 10-06-2010 at 11:38 PM.

10-07-2010, 12:10 AM	#9
Frizzle Fry Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hillsboro Oregon Posts: 6,449	Re: big back glass conversion Hope neither of those are from Steele Rubber. That's what I have staged for mine.

10-07-2010, 08:25 PM	#11
flips72 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: oldfort tn Posts: 1,183	Re: big back glass conversion i got my rear seal from classic chevy truck parts of america seems like it was around 30.00 dollars. it fit great not sure who there supplier is. mine was one solid piece had to cut about a foot off of it. did find that using the correct seal instalation tool and lots of soapy water helped alot. someone mentioned wd40 but that seemed messy to me. good luck holler if i can help. Last edited by flips72; 10-07-2010 at 08:33 PM.

10-07-2010, 09:11 PM	#13
flips72 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: oldfort tn Posts: 1,183	Re: big back glass conversion yep, no preformed corners

10-08-2010, 11:30 PM	#16
collins10672 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: bean station tennessee Posts: 398	Re: big back glass conversion the small and large window rubber does not have moulded corners.

07-26-2011, 07:25 PM	#17
chad64chevy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: tulsa,ok. Posts: 1,803	Re: big back glass conversion man flip72, i never seen this thread before now! i'm saving it in my favorites so i can maybe do this sometime before i get mine on the road!! i love pictures and that helps alot for me!! thanks for doing the write-up!!

07-27-2011, 06:43 PM	#18
flips72 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: oldfort tn Posts: 1,183	Re: big back glass conversion glad it was a help, sure was nerve wracking but well worth it.

08-16-2011, 02:48 AM	#19
Slowtruk Registered User Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Lumberton Texas Posts: 378	Re: big back glass conversion I'll revive this thread by saying WOW! man your truck is beautiful especially after the BBW swap. I would LOVE to do this on my 65, but I have no idea where to find a donor chunk of metal from a BBW truck. You just dont see stuff like that around here. I saw someone mentioned that they made a kit for this....did we every hear anything else? Wouldnt it be cool to be able to order an already formed and stamped BBW piece new out of a catalogue? But then I guess everyone would have one then. This is a MUST on my list now!

08-16-2011, 06:54 AM	#20
fat60 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Imlay City, MI Posts: 13	Re: big back glass conversion http://flint.craigslist.org/pts/2534300424.html __________________ 1990 3+3 454 400 205 10in lift 40in rubber 1960 c10 short fleet 1960 c10 long fleet

08-16-2011, 07:07 AM	#22
darkhorse970 Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Monroe, LA Posts: 2,105	Re: big back glass conversion On my to do list, hope to start on it in mid October. I've already located a donor cab from a buddy. This thread and Scoti's build thread will be very helpful. __________________ Keith SOLD - 1963 C10 Short Fleet 350/700R4 4/6 drop 1967 GMC Super Custom - Short Fleet COPO concept w/427 BBC T-400 w/Doug Nash overdrive 4/6 Drop, Buddy Buckets, etc... Frame Off (In Progress) I call it "Vulgar Display of Power" 1980 Silverado Original paint 49k Original miles 4/6 drop Check out my build thread here: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post6209941



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08-17-2011, 12:35 AM	#23
iehotrod Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Oak Hills, California Posts: 393	Re: big back glass conversion I knnow someone selling the interior panel I believe he is asking Like $350. for but it is here in california. I bought one from him for my truck.

09-04-2011, 01:15 AM	#24
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