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Re: HID convertion
I suggest you take a moment to check your attitude before you make your next post. You may not agree with 1badgmc, but you will respond in a polite manner.
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Re: HID convertion
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Re: HID convertion
To the post about HID retrofit's being illegal, do you have a reference for that? I have looked at Illinois Statue, and I do not see any reference to this. Is it a federal law? I have seen other references to a "DOT regulation" but have not seen it in writing. If it is in writing, they are probably talking about HID retrofits into Halogen headlights.
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs...=49&ActID=1815 http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs...qEnd=129300000 http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regul...108&Cat_type=V http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr_20...cfr571.108.pdf And to the OP (and anyone else that wants to do HID's this way), it may look great to you but what about oncoming drivers? Only way to properly do a HID conversion is to get HID projectors, bulb, balast, and harness and not JUST a bulb, balast and harness. For a HID to properly perform they need to be aimed and have the correct cutoff. That is what keeps from blinding oncoming drivers.
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Re: HID convertion
Also, it seems as though the term "DOT Approved" is a bit misleading. The DOT does not "approve" items that go on your vehicle. Instead they set standard (FMVSS 108 for lights). If your vehicle meets the standard then you are good to go, if not then the particular equipment is illegal.
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Re: HID convertion
Alright, last post I promise. lol
It looks as though the reason why HID retrofits (properly done) are illegal is because.... 1. There is no filament 2. There is no ballast on file with the DOT to be used with an H1 bulb. The reason why I am doing so much research is because I am currently having a set built for my dually. I have no question that from the outside they will look great and not cause any glare. But it looks as though they will not be legal.
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Re: HID convertion
I have not been able to find anything that specifically condemns HID conversions as being illegal in so many words, but in my searches around FMVSS 108 and HID legality, I have seen this pop up several times...
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Re: HID convertion
I'm not speaking about anyone in this thread or any kits mentioned here. But I've passed many an older car at night that's had some sort of headlight upgrade that blinds me with the glare. Usually they have some sort of halo glare around the headlights and maybe even blue tint. It is annoying and dangerous. To me, a headlight upgrade should put more white light on the ground. The Sylvania Silverstars seem to be well reviewed and are even available in sealed beam halogen versions for our older trucks.
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Re: HID convertion
Most who do HID conversions don't take any care in their installations and do have bad glare. Most of them also buy retarded blue color temperatures as well.
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Re: HID convertion
I saw some pink looking ones the other night on a really nice truck, kinda killed the coolness
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Re: HID convertion
I've seen pink and I've also seen green. Talk about retarded.
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Re: HID convertion
ive got a truck thats pink and green must make me twice retarded
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Re: HID convertion
Just sticking HID bulbs in older halogen reflector housing is NOT the way to do it, you will create a lot of glare. I retrofited projectors in my Honda for this reason. It looks cool and the beam pattern is amazing.
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Re: HID convertion
Sorry missed all the the drama, just trying to add an informative post here
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Re: HID convertion
But it IS possible to put HIDs in a halogen reflector housing without causing glare. It takes the right type of housing and a bit of care in aiming. Is it perfect? No. Is it optimal? Not at all.
My eyes are very sensitive to lights and if I can look at my HID conversions coming at me without any discomfort, they're not bothering very many other drivers either. I have never been flashed with them. |
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Re: HID convertion
![]() ![]() ![]() Sure it can be done, just get a projector housing and graft it into the headlight. These are 3" projectors, light output is like that of a facotry BMW.. no glare, awesome cut off... yeah putting hid bulbs in a non hid housing is ricer... its bright lights that sprays the light.. clint
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Re: HID convertion
Interesting subject matter. I am sure there will always be some gray area when it comes to the subject. All i can say is i do alot of night driving in the oilfield to and from jobs...and out here its close to offroad only conditions. But its the best money i have ever spent on my dodge...its been the difference between me running over bambi or not on several occasions.
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