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**oldman3** · 08-29-2016, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Advanced Design

That will be a good upgrade Jim. How many miles in those 12 years?

Only 24,000 miles, even with me retired I thought I would have more, but life gets in the way...Jim

ChuckDriver · 08-30-2016, 12:05 AM

Maintenance is a good thing!

**oldman3** · 08-30-2016, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ChuckDriver

Maintenance is a good thing!

You are so correct, should have been done long ago...Jim

Kim57 · 08-30-2016, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by oldman3

Only 24,000 miles, even with me retired I thought I would have more, but life gets in the way...Jim

Life always seems to change priorities in mid stream.
It's what's keeping me from getting mine on the road.
Good luck with the up grade.
Kim

lower50's · 08-30-2016, 05:49 PM

24,000 mi is still not to bad for a toy. Will a single v belt run the 105A alternator?

**oldman3** · 08-30-2016, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by lower50's

24,000 mi is still not to bad for a toy. Will a single v belt run the 105A alternator?

Thanks lower, I think it will be OK, will have to way and see...Jim

**oldman3** · 08-30-2016, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Kim57

Life always seems to change priorities in mid stream.
It's what's keeping me from getting mine on the road.
Good luck with the up grade.
Kim

Thanks Kim, hope the rehab is coming along, you'll be back at it soon...Jim

**joedoh** · 08-31-2016, 01:45 AM

maybe someday I will have a truck long enough to

a. do maintenance on parts that wear out

or

b. get some kind of value out of all the new parts I buy

haha looks really great!

**oldman3** · 08-31-2016, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joedoh

maybe someday I will have a truck long enough to

a. do maintenance on parts that wear out

or

b. get some kind of value out of all the new parts I buy

haha looks really great!

Thank you...Jim

**oldman3** · 09-02-2016, 04:22 PM

Well, I'm back with an update, but not what I had hoped. When I picked up the alternator yesterday, George showed me on his test machine it was putting out 102 amps and 14-1/2 volts. So I installed the new belts and alternator and fired up the truck. At idle it was only showing 12 volts, anything above 1500 rpm showed 14-1/2. I was not happy, this was really worse that with the 85 amp.

This morning I took the truck to George's shop and he said this wasn't right, it should show at leat 14 volts at idle in gear. He said that the new stator may have to much air gap between it and the rotor. He was going to call his parts people and get back with me, but it could be Monday before he has an answer.

My alternator is the old 10Si unit was orginally a 63 amp, which I had George change to an 85 amp in 1996. If this doesn't come up with an answer and no additional cost, I will just buy and new 105 amp unit and paint to match the other engine stuff. (That was the main reason for having it redone, I didn't want to paint the new unit)

.

I know everyone likes pics, so here's a couple showing new belts and gauge with readings.

I will let everyone know how it works out...Jim

Kim57 · 09-02-2016, 11:21 PM

Sure do like your gauges.
Kim

solidaxel · 09-02-2016, 11:29 PM

Yes I liked those, they are the same Classic Ins I used in my 55 GMC

**oldman3** · 09-03-2016, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Kim57

Sure do like your gauges.
Kim

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Originally Posted by solidaxel

Yes I liked those, they are the same Classic Ins I used in my 55 GMC

Thanks guys, I've always liked them...Jim

lower50's · 09-08-2016, 09:50 AM

How did it test ok then not work when it was installed?

**Advanced Design** · 09-08-2016, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by lower50's

How did it test ok then not work when it was installed?

I was thinking about the same. Different rpm at test compared to use?

**oldman3** · 09-08-2016, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Advanced Design

I was thinking about the same. Different rpm at test compared to use?

You are correct Doug, I'm not sure of the rpm but is higher that 600 rpm. I'll see if I can get George to tell me more about the testing...Jim

**oldman3** · 09-08-2016, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by lower50's

How did it test ok then not work when it was installed?

Maybe I said this wrong, the alternator works, and shows 14-1/2 volts but only above 1500 rpm, it should show 14-1/2 volts when at idle. I've taken the alternator back to George, he has a new stator with a smaller ID for the rotor, so it should charge about 70 amps, 14-1/2 volts at 600 rpm. It should be ready tomorrow afternoon, I will install and report back the results...Jim

RockinKees · 09-09-2016, 11:04 AM

Did some catching up

Very nice gauges!!
New alternator is a good upgrade!
Hope it works out the way it should!

**oldman3** · 09-09-2016, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockinKees

Did some catching up

Very nice gauges!!
New alternator is a good upgrade!
Hope it works out the way it should!

Thanks Kees, wasn't ready today, part had not come in, hopefully Monday...Jim

**oldman3** · 09-20-2016, 08:01 PM

Well, we all know about "life gets in the way", and problems it can cause. Some may be thinking "it only takes 20 mins to install and alternator, what's the problem". Well my mother passed on Monday 9/12 and I had other things to take care of, my mom was 89 yrs old (3 months from 90) was in good health up until a few days before she passed. I praise God for his special gift of my mom to me. I miss her each day, but life goes on.

So now back to my alternator. I finally got the alternator and installed it today.
I also talked to George about testing. The new stator was smaller on ID to the stator and he also said I had a bad diode. There was no charge for getting it right. He showed me it was putting out 14-1/2 volts at 800 RPM, and around 75 amps.

1st pic show 650 RPM, in drive, ac off - 14-1/2 volts
2nd pic shos 650 RPM, in drive, ac ON - 13-1/2 volts
3rd pic shows 850 RPM, in drive, ac ON - 14-1/2 volts ( I just gave it a little gas to raise the RPM's)
4th pic show a close up 700 RPM, in drive, ac ON - 13-1/2 volts

If this were a new car, it would raise the RPM's when the ac was on, so I'm happy with how everything turned out.

This is alot better than the first change to 105 amp.

One of the main reasons for wanting higher volts, is within the next month I want to install FITech fuel injection. I wanted to make sure I always had a minium of 12 volts to the system. LEEVON has beat me to the punch and is installing one on his AD with the LS engine. I will still do a installation/pic update as I do mine. Catch you later...Jim

Indian113 · 09-20-2016, 08:28 PM

Jim, Sorry to hear about your Mom. I lost mine far to young.

Good Job on the Electrical Problem. Now Lets hope the Injection System is easier

**Advanced Design** · 09-20-2016, 10:29 PM

Jim, we are really sorry to learn of your mothers passing.

The alternator looks like a good fix. You are fortunate to have someone who can still work on them. It's been years since I've rebuilt one.

Fitech install will be interesting and looking forward to that.

solidaxel · 09-20-2016, 10:32 PM

Condolences Jim,

May She Rest in Paradise

**oldman3** · 09-20-2016, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian113

Jim, Sorry to hear about your Mom. I lost mine far to young.

Good Job on the Electrical Problem. Now Lets hope the Injection System is easier

Quote:

Originally Posted by Advanced Design

Jim, we are really sorry to learn of your mothers passing.

The alternator looks like a good fix. You are fortunate to have someone who can still work on them. It's been years since I've rebuilt one.

Fitech install will be interesting and looking forward to that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by solidaxel

Condolences Jim,

May She Rest in Paradise

Thank you all for the well wishes. Really looking forward to the FITech install...Jim

lower50's · 09-21-2016, 03:58 PM

Really sorry to hear about your Mom. I think it is a blessing to be in good health right till the end at that age.
Glad you got the alt fixed up.

08-30-2016, 12:05 AM	#2
ChuckDriver A320 Pilot/USAF Retired Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 2,622	Re: My 50 roadster pickup build Maintenance is a good thing! __________________ JJ My 1957 build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=334552 http://www.trifive.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22037 Instagram - Chuckdriver57

08-30-2016, 05:49 PM	#5
lower50's Registered User Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Kitchener, Ontario, Canada Posts: 3,254	Re: My 50 roadster pickup build 24,000 mi is still not to bad for a toy. Will a single v belt run the 105A alternator? __________________ http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=648459 https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=769441 1951 MG TD 1967 Jeep CJ5 1.9L TDI 33X13.5X15 Mud Grapplers. 1952 GMC 9700 p/u 7.3L diesel on air, dually

08-31-2016, 01:45 AM	#8
joedoh Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Doodah Kansas Posts: 7,760	Re: My 50 roadster pickup build maybe someday I will have a truck long enough to a. do maintenance on parts that wear out or b. get some kind of value out of all the new parts I buy haha looks really great! __________________ the mass of men live lives of quiet desperation if there is a problem, I can have it. new project WAYNE http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=844393

09-02-2016, 04:22 PM	#10
oldman3 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: West Plains, Missouri Posts: 7,555	Re: My 50 roadster pickup build Well, I'm back with an update, but not what I had hoped. When I picked up the alternator yesterday, George showed me on his test machine it was putting out 102 amps and 14-1/2 volts. So I installed the new belts and alternator and fired up the truck. At idle it was only showing 12 volts, anything above 1500 rpm showed 14-1/2. I was not happy, this was really worse that with the 85 amp. This morning I took the truck to George's shop and he said this wasn't right, it should show at leat 14 volts at idle in gear. He said that the new stator may have to much air gap between it and the rotor. He was going to call his parts people and get back with me, but it could be Monday before he has an answer. My alternator is the old 10Si unit was orginally a 63 amp, which I had George change to an 85 amp in 1996. If this doesn't come up with an answer and no additional cost, I will just buy and new 105 amp unit and paint to match the other engine stuff. (That was the main reason for having it redone, I didn't want to paint the new unit). I know everyone likes pics, so here's a couple showing new belts and gauge with readings. I will let everyone know how it works out...Jim Attached Images __________________ my build thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=459839 Jimbo's long bed step build:http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...t=464626<br />

09-02-2016, 11:21 PM	#11
Kim57 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Corona, California Posts: 7,998	Re: My 50 roadster pickup build Sure do like your gauges. Kim __________________ My build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=283107

09-02-2016, 11:29 PM	#12
solidaxel Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Cactus Patch So. Az Posts: 4,749	Re: My 50 roadster pickup build Yes I liked those, they are the same Classic Ins I used in my 55 GMC Attached Images __________________ 53 TuTone Extended Cab 350 4-Spd 3:08 (SOLD) 53 Chevy Moldy pearl green ZZ-4 4L60E 9" 3:25 55 GMC 1st Black Mll (ZZ4) ZZ6 TKO 600 5 sp 3:73 62 Solidaxle Corvette Roman Red (327 340hp 4spd 3:36) C4 & C5 suspension tube chassis LS 3 4L70E 65 Corvette Coupe 327 350hp 4spd 4:11 78 Black Silverado SWB (350/350) 5.3 & 4L60E 3:42 2000 S-Type 3.0 (wife cruiser) 2003 GMC SCSB 5.3 4L60E 3:42

09-08-2016, 09:50 AM	#14
lower50's Registered User Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Kitchener, Ontario, Canada Posts: 3,254	Re: My 50 roadster pickup build How did it test ok then not work when it was installed? __________________ http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=648459 https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=769441 1951 MG TD 1967 Jeep CJ5 1.9L TDI 33X13.5X15 Mud Grapplers. 1952 GMC 9700 p/u 7.3L diesel on air, dually

09-09-2016, 11:04 AM	#18
RockinKees Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Purmerend, Netherlands Posts: 1,657	Re: My 50 roadster pickup build Did some catching up Very nice gauges!! New alternator is a good upgrade! Hope it works out the way it should! __________________ Cheers!! Kees. 1959 Chevy Fleetside Longbed My build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=643426 Kool Guyz CC Instagram: _King_Kustom_

09-20-2016, 08:01 PM	#20
oldman3 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: West Plains, Missouri Posts: 7,555	Re: My 50 roadster pickup build Well, we all know about "life gets in the way", and problems it can cause. Some may be thinking "it only takes 20 mins to install and alternator, what's the problem". Well my mother passed on Monday 9/12 and I had other things to take care of, my mom was 89 yrs old (3 months from 90) was in good health up until a few days before she passed. I praise God for his special gift of my mom to me. I miss her each day, but life goes on. So now back to my alternator. I finally got the alternator and installed it today. I also talked to George about testing. The new stator was smaller on ID to the stator and he also said I had a bad diode. There was no charge for getting it right. He showed me it was putting out 14-1/2 volts at 800 RPM, and around 75 amps. 1st pic show 650 RPM, in drive, ac off - 14-1/2 volts 2nd pic shos 650 RPM, in drive, ac ON - 13-1/2 volts 3rd pic shows 850 RPM, in drive, ac ON - 14-1/2 volts ( I just gave it a little gas to raise the RPM's) 4th pic show a close up 700 RPM, in drive, ac ON - 13-1/2 volts If this were a new car, it would raise the RPM's when the ac was on, so I'm happy with how everything turned out. This is alot better than the first change to 105 amp. One of the main reasons for wanting higher volts, is within the next month I want to install FITech fuel injection. I wanted to make sure I always had a minium of 12 volts to the system. LEEVON has beat me to the punch and is installing one on his AD with the LS engine. I will still do a installation/pic update as I do mine. Catch you later...Jim Attached Images __________________ my build thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=459839 Jimbo's long bed step build:http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...t=464626<br /> Last edited by oldman3; 09-20-2016 at 11:22 PM.

09-20-2016, 08:28 PM	#21
Indian113 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Monroe,Iowa Posts: 4,370	Re: My 50 roadster pickup build Jim, Sorry to hear about your Mom. I lost mine far to young. Good Job on the Electrical Problem. Now Lets hope the Injection System is easier

09-20-2016, 10:29 PM	#22
Advanced Design Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Oblong, Illinois Posts: 7,017	Re: My 50 roadster pickup build Jim, we are really sorry to learn of your mothers passing. The alternator looks like a good fix. You are fortunate to have someone who can still work on them. It's been years since I've rebuilt one. Fitech install will be interesting and looking forward to that. __________________ Doug Advanced Design’s 1977 Blazer Build Advanced Design's '48 'Burb Build Mrs Advanced Design's '72 Suburban Advanced Design's 56 BelAir LS swap

09-20-2016, 10:32 PM	#23
solidaxel Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Cactus Patch So. Az Posts: 4,749	Re: My 50 roadster pickup build Condolences Jim, May She Rest in Paradise __________________ 53 TuTone Extended Cab 350 4-Spd 3:08 (SOLD) 53 Chevy Moldy pearl green ZZ-4 4L60E 9" 3:25 55 GMC 1st Black Mll (ZZ4) ZZ6 TKO 600 5 sp 3:73 62 Solidaxle Corvette Roman Red (327 340hp 4spd 3:36) C4 & C5 suspension tube chassis LS 3 4L70E 65 Corvette Coupe 327 350hp 4spd 4:11 78 Black Silverado SWB (350/350) 5.3 & 4L60E 3:42 2000 S-Type 3.0 (wife cruiser) 2003 GMC SCSB 5.3 4L60E 3:42

09-21-2016, 03:58 PM	#25
lower50's Registered User Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Kitchener, Ontario, Canada Posts: 3,254	Re: My 50 roadster pickup build Really sorry to hear about your Mom. I think it is a blessing to be in good health right till the end at that age. Glad you got the alt fixed up. __________________ http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=648459 https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=769441 1951 MG TD 1967 Jeep CJ5 1.9L TDI 33X13.5X15 Mud Grapplers. 1952 GMC 9700 p/u 7.3L diesel on air, dually



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