Power Steering for a 71 C10

[TONY2000]

Hi just picked up a C10 1971. I need to clarify a couple of issues.
Its a 1971 according to vin no: CS141B63148 with a 307ci Turbo 350 box.
But has a small rear window, No power steering and drums all round, step side body.

The Guy i got it from said its a 67 Because of the small rear window ?
Also said the 307 V8 was original, Vin conflicts by saying 6 cylnder.
Im sure Vin no is correct but wondered if the small cab window was available on a 71 ?

Also im trying to source a Power steering set up but need to be sure which ones fit etc.
Im trying to find a supplier of a complete bolt on kit for my truck.
a couple of company's i've e-mailed don't list one for a 71 !
Also going to change to Disc brakes, again 2 company's local only list a Disc Kit for 72 onward's ?
Any help would be appreciated.

Oh and i'm in Australia so i need to be sure before i ship one out to OZ.

[PanelDeland]

Small window is 67 only.There is some speculation that there may have been a few 68's with it but no confirmation.Check the framne,if it's dimpled by the steering box it probably isn't a 67 frame.Sounds like a Mutt(one put together from available parts).Other than the dimple needing to be put there,all front crossmembers and suspensions have quite a bit of interchangability and steering boxes from 68-86 or so work on these trucks.
Look in the FAQ's section of the BB and there will be a ton of info on the disc swap.You probably want to go with the most complete kit you can get.Don't forget to check and rebuild,tie rod ends,center link,ball joints and other parts in the front suspension.

Oh and welcome to the best place in the known universe for info on these trucks.

[TONY2000]

Thanks for the info I'll check it out over the next few days.
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[Wrenchbender Ret]

All 71 up had disc brakes.

[dan42]

Welcome to the board from the west coast and probably one of the closest places on the mainland of the U.S. to Australia!

You have a mutt on your hands - there was no small window in '71, no 307 (in pickups) in '67. Not to say that's bad, a lot of folks have really nice mutts; just know what you're getting. Get the motor #'s as well so you can I.D. it. If you haven't bought it yet, I would consider looking a little more for a more pure 1-year truck that is mainly stock; otherwise it will be frustrating to locate parts over there.

[swierker]

This one confuses me a little.

The cab has to be 67 if it has a small rear window.
The frame has to be 67-70 because it's all drums.

So where is the VIN# CS141B63148 indicating it's a 71. That vin shouldn't be on that cab or frame (legally).

Unless there was some crazy sheet metal grafting going on there or something.

[PanelDeland]

Rereading this and remembering that you're in Australia makes me wonder.Just where would Australia imported the truck from?The Brazillian trucks we've seen are different from US as is the one that was posted from Argentina.Maybe the truck is from somewhere besides the US.

I'm just saying.........

[TONY2000]

[QUOTE=swierker;4811694]This one confuses me a little.

The cab has to be 67 if it has a small rear window.
The frame has to be 67-70 because it's all drums.

So where is the VIN# CS141B63148 indicating it's a 71. That vin shouldn't be on that cab or frame (legally).
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Confused me and the Enginner who inspected it for the Local Vehicle Licensing office.
Ita all above board and registerd here.
Just confused !!

[TONY2000]

[QUOTE=PanelDeland;4812180]Rereading this and remembering that you're in Australia makes me wonder.Just where would Australia imported the truck from?The Brazillian trucks we've seen are different from US as is the one that was posted from Argentina.Maybe the truck is from somewhere besides the US.
QUOTE]

The Truck Came from US in 2006 i have import approval papers with the truck.

[PanelDeland]

Ok that clears up a couple of things.It's 67 cab,the small rear window is a dead giveaway.The front sheetmetal is 71-72 with a custom grille.That is the American body style.
Post a pic of the area of the frame where the steering gearbox bolts on and we should be able to tell if it's a 67 frame.Also,is the truck a 5 lug or 6?67-70 were 6 lug,71-72 were 5.
The engine code will help someone decode what it is.The 6 cyl spec on the SPID probably means it was swapped at some point.
PS setups from 68 up to about 86 work.The feel of the steering is softer in the earlier trucks being easy enough to turn with one finger.My personal preference is the later 70's box.I believe 76 or so was the last year of US fittings.Get a PS gearbox and pump with brackets and hoses. all from the same vehicle to simplify replacement parts and fittings.Make sure to get the pulleys also.They can be a bear to piece togethger.
On a disc conversion,I would suggest a complete kit with Ball Joints,Master Cyl, and all associated parts.You don't want to have to wait a month on other stuff to come before you can do/finish the swap.Check the reviews section for suppliers with quality service or use one of the fine vendors on this BB.

Again I suggest you read a lot of the existing threads to become more familiar with the improvements you want to make so that parts can be sourced as kits as much as possible.Then you can ask about the particular kit you're interested in.Most members will give a objective opinion on what they have used.You do want to get it right the first time since parts will be far far away.

[TONY2000]

Thanks for the usefull info, i took a few snaps last night ill post them later.
Have used LMC Truck for parts before for an F100 i had in the UK,
Found it a lot easier in the UK to source parts, here in Australia its a pain !
(Been here 18 months)
DO you guys use LMC ??

[PanelDeland]

I normally use a BB vendor.They tend to price things a bit better than LMC.I don't know if any have experience shipping overseas though.There is a list on the home page.

[Shyguy]

The truck we are going to put together later when the weather cools some will be have a '67 cab, '69 frame, '71 running gear with power steering, 68-72 swb stepside bed and a '74 454 with a 400 transmission.

As stated before it will be a "Mute" for sure, but will be registered as a '67 because of the cab.

[TONY2000]

Ok Mines a 6 wheel nut fitting so just throws another curve ball in there !
picture of Frame and steering below. Also Water pump Long nose pump ??

[PanelDeland]

It looks like you will need to dimple the frame(or use spacers).Also just so you know some options,you can get 6 lug rotors.Some wheel choices do not clear the calipers on the disc brakes,so you need to check that,though most aftermarket wheels will.Offsets are different from newer 6 lug wheels.You may also need to modify or adjust you PS pump bracket for clearance for your headers.

[stich626]

wheels look like mutts also..
water pump looks like a shorty
nice truck tho..

[TONY2000]

Originally Posted by stich626

wheels look like mutts also..
water pump looks like a shorty
nice truck tho..

I hate the wheels !
They have to go at some point.