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aric68 · 01-11-2012, 06:36 PM

In my 72 k20 I'm attempting to replace u/ball joints, and repack the bearings, trying to save a buck. Literally had to watch a video to see what and where these were. I got the spicer hub assembly off which wanted to come off as 1. Was able to remove the inner bearing lock nut with my fingers, but can't get the thrust washer off. Any advice and pictures would be appreciated.

72LSK10 · 01-11-2012, 07:49 PM

If you've already removed the nut, pull the washer straight out. I usually use a set of picks, the 90 deg and the offset ones seem to work the best for me. the inner and outer bearings will come out along with the hub assembly once you remove the second nut (behind the washer). I hope this helps.

Burt4x4 · 01-12-2012, 10:42 AM

There should be a notch the washer slides in. Onetime my washer spun a bit and the washer was wedged in one directrion. A few taps the opposite way and I was able to pull it out with two picks/hooks.
Try tapping on it...

aric68 · 01-12-2012, 01:40 PM

thanks for the help I was looking for a tab, found the 2 picks worked well. Struggled a bit but finally got the axel out. Will attempt the knuckle removal, and joints removal today. Everyone I've talked to is scaring me a bit with how critical putting it back together is. searched online but cant find good details on my front end.

OrrieG · 01-12-2012, 02:17 PM

There was a long thread last year about R&R and adjusting the bearings. Not rocket science. I made my pic tool out or a coathanger and carry it in my offroad tool bag.

aric68 · 01-12-2012, 03:43 PM

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Chevy1TonFun · 01-12-2012, 11:23 PM

looks good to me.

aric68 · 01-13-2012, 12:17 AM

all the info i had gathered told me there was a spring, lock washer, and snap ring to get the hub assembly off, but I didn't find those.

Chevy1TonFun · 01-13-2012, 01:16 AM

I wasn't paying attention to the hub. You are correct you are missing some parts.

BLAZERMAN · 01-13-2012, 01:33 AM

You should have had a snap ring on your axle stub....the spring should be between the axle gear and the retainer you have in pic #1 you should have an actuator cam between the two with a pin thru it holding it to the dial.

aric68 · 01-13-2012, 01:59 AM

am i ok to reassemble as is?

aric68 · 01-13-2012, 02:02 AM

does anyone have pics of what its supposed to look like?

**Ridgeback** · 01-13-2012, 03:25 AM

aric68

If you post your email address I will send you a pdf file containing the Dana Spicer Manual

aric68 · 01-13-2012, 10:12 AM

aric76@gmail.com

**Ridgeback** · 01-13-2012, 04:49 PM

aric68

Sent you two emails. Let me know if you have any trouble downloading the manuals.

SeventyOne · 01-13-2012, 06:07 PM

It looks like you are missing hub parts. Did you just take those off the truck? If so whoever was in there before didn't know what was going on.

aric68 · 01-13-2012, 07:06 PM

I did just take those off the truck, and I stopped by and showed a couple mechanics and they both thought it looked fine and not missing anything.

cdowns · 01-14-2012, 08:52 PM

gm factory service manuals has loads od important info

aric68 · 01-15-2012, 04:09 PM

worked great before

Curt's_72 · 01-16-2012, 11:16 AM

Good information in this thread. I just removed the same hubs from my truck to detail them. What are you using for a gasket? I notice yours are in pieces like mine were when i removed them. They are very thin, also.

aric68 · 01-16-2012, 11:39 AM

curt: I cant get gaskets so i'm left cutting some out of paper material or using special silicone. are you going to take pics and if you do can you send me a couple?

Curt's_72 · 01-16-2012, 02:30 PM

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curt: I cant get gaskets so i'm left cutting some out of paper material or using special silicone. are you going to take pics and if you do can you send me a couple?

It would seem that any manufacture of lockout would have a gasket that would work. The housing that the lockout connects to doesn't change.

I'm stopping at NAPA today to see what they can come up with. I'll let you know.

I'm only removing the lockout and nothing more. I'll provide any pictures that you want, but I'm not removing everything like you are. Here is a shot to show how far I've taken mine down.
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I don't think this is what you're looking for, though.

Curt's_72 · 01-17-2012, 12:49 PM

Looks like we'll be making new ones from gasket material or a type of RTV. Quad 4x4 shows them on their website, but they are out of stock.
NAPA told me I had to buy an entire roll of material, so I'm looking around.

01-11-2012, 07:49 PM	#2
72LSK10 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 127	Re: Newbie in over his head If you've already removed the nut, pull the washer straight out. I usually use a set of picks, the 90 deg and the offset ones seem to work the best for me. the inner and outer bearings will come out along with the hub assembly once you remove the second nut (behind the washer). I hope this helps.

01-12-2012, 10:42 AM	#3
Burt4x4 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 1,842	Re: Newbie in over his head There should be a notch the washer slides in. Onetime my washer spun a bit and the washer was wedged in one directrion. A few taps the opposite way and I was able to pull it out with two picks/hooks. Try tapping on it... __________________ 1972 K5 MPFI454/Sm465/Np205/D60/14FFd/Re-Centerd H1s w/Swamper Iroks

01-12-2012, 01:40 PM	#4
aric68 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: winthrop, wa. Posts: 33	Re: Newbie in over his head thanks for the help I was looking for a tab, found the 2 picks worked well. Struggled a bit but finally got the axel out. Will attempt the knuckle removal, and joints removal today. Everyone I've talked to is scaring me a bit with how critical putting it back together is. searched online but cant find good details on my front end.

01-12-2012, 02:17 PM	#5
OrrieG Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Idaho Posts: 8,800	Re: Newbie in over his head There was a long thread last year about R&R and adjusting the bearings. Not rocket science. I made my pic tool out or a coathanger and carry it in my offroad tool bag. __________________ 1959 Chevy Short Fleetside w/ 74 4WD drive train (current project) OrrieG Build Thread 1964 Chevelle Malibu w/ 355-350TH (daily driver) Helpful AD and TF Manual Site Old Car Manual Project

01-12-2012, 03:43 PM	#6
aric68 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: winthrop, wa. Posts: 33	Re: Newbie in over his head Does this look dismantled correctly?

01-11-2012, 06:36 PM	#1
aric68 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: winthrop, wa. Posts: 33	Newbie in over his head In my 72 k20 I'm attempting to replace u/ball joints, and repack the bearings, trying to save a buck. Literally had to watch a video to see what and where these were. I got the spicer hub assembly off which wanted to come off as 1. Was able to remove the inner bearing lock nut with my fingers, but can't get the thrust washer off. Any advice and pictures would be appreciated.

01-12-2012, 11:23 PM	#7
Chevy1TonFun Grease Monkey Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Fresno CA Posts: 750	Re: Newbie in over his head looks good to me. __________________ Tow Rig: 2012 Chevy 2500HD CCSB LTZ Z71 4x4 Duramax Ultimate Offroad Build: 1978 Chevy Silverado K30 Crewcab Build Link http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=654053 Mud Truck: 1972 Chevy Cheyenne K30 4x4, 468/400/205, D60/D70HD, 18" Custom Lift, 17x39" IROKs FOR SALE http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/c...ton-4x4&cat=12

01-13-2012, 12:17 AM	#8
aric68 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: winthrop, wa. Posts: 33	Re: Newbie in over his head all the info i had gathered told me there was a spring, lock washer, and snap ring to get the hub assembly off, but I didn't find those.

01-13-2012, 01:16 AM	#9
Chevy1TonFun Grease Monkey Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Fresno CA Posts: 750	Re: Newbie in over his head I wasn't paying attention to the hub. You are correct you are missing some parts. __________________ Tow Rig: 2012 Chevy 2500HD CCSB LTZ Z71 4x4 Duramax Ultimate Offroad Build: 1978 Chevy Silverado K30 Crewcab Build Link http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=654053 Mud Truck: 1972 Chevy Cheyenne K30 4x4, 468/400/205, D60/D70HD, 18" Custom Lift, 17x39" IROKs FOR SALE http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/c...ton-4x4&cat=12

01-13-2012, 01:33 AM	#10
BLAZERMAN Currently Blazerless Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: St. Joseph Mo. Posts: 4,826	Re: Newbie in over his head You should have had a snap ring on your axle stub....the spring should be between the axle gear and the retainer you have in pic #1 you should have an actuator cam between the two with a pin thru it holding it to the dial. __________________ 1972 C/30 133" W.B. C&C 1970 GMC 3500 157" W.B. single wheel C&C

01-13-2012, 01:59 AM	#11
aric68 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: winthrop, wa. Posts: 33	Re: Newbie in over his head am i ok to reassemble as is?

01-13-2012, 02:02 AM	#12
aric68 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: winthrop, wa. Posts: 33	Re: Newbie in over his head does anyone have pics of what its supposed to look like?

01-13-2012, 03:25 AM	#13
Ridgeback Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Virginia Posts: 809	Re: Newbie in over his head aric68 If you post your email address I will send you a pdf file containing the Dana Spicer Manual

01-13-2012, 10:12 AM	#14
aric68 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: winthrop, wa. Posts: 33	Re: Newbie in over his head aric76@gmail.com

01-13-2012, 04:49 PM	#15
Ridgeback Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Virginia Posts: 809	Re: Newbie in over his head aric68 Sent you two emails. Let me know if you have any trouble downloading the manuals.



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01-13-2012, 06:07 PM	#16
SeventyOne Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Oakland, Ca Posts: 1,381	Re: where can i find info for doing my U and ball joints on my k20s It looks like you are missing hub parts. Did you just take those off the truck? If so whoever was in there before didn't know what was going on.

01-13-2012, 07:06 PM	#17
aric68 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: winthrop, wa. Posts: 33	Re: where can i find info for doing my U and ball joints on my k20s I did just take those off the truck, and I stopped by and showed a couple mechanics and they both thought it looked fine and not missing anything.

01-14-2012, 08:52 PM	#18
cdowns Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: daytonabeach Posts: 22,956	Re: where can i find info for doing my U and ball joints on my k20s gm factory service manuals has loads od important info __________________ 71c-10 350/2004r/4:11 lowered3/4 longbed/dead by hurricane MEANING OF DEATH::::: SOMEBODY ELSE GETS YOUR STUFF DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU THINK TAKE MY ADVISE;I DON'T USE IT ANYWAY

01-15-2012, 04:09 PM	#19
aric68 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: winthrop, wa. Posts: 33	Re: where can i find info for doing my U and ball joints on my k20s worked great before

01-16-2012, 11:16 AM	#20
Curt's_72 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Peru, Indiana Posts: 203	Re: Newbie in over his head Good information in this thread. I just removed the same hubs from my truck to detail them. What are you using for a gasket? I notice yours are in pieces like mine were when i removed them. They are very thin, also.

01-16-2012, 11:39 AM	#21
aric68 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: winthrop, wa. Posts: 33	Re: Newbie in over his head curt: I cant get gaskets so i'm left cutting some out of paper material or using special silicone. are you going to take pics and if you do can you send me a couple?

01-17-2012, 12:49 PM	#23
Curt's_72 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Peru, Indiana Posts: 203	Re: Newbie in over his head Looks like we'll be making new ones from gasket material or a type of RTV. Quad 4x4 shows them on their website, but they are out of stock. NAPA told me I had to buy an entire roll of material, so I'm looking around.

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