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nicolas72gmc · 01-26-2013, 09:59 PM

Ok here is the short of it.... After having a miss and finding out I blew the head gasket at the #8 cylinder, the guys down at the awesome ADS in chandler are building me a monster out of the gm crate I've been running for about 3 years. I couldn't resist.

Mahl pistons, forged crank, retro roller set up with a comp cam and rockers, dart pro 1 platinum heads (dual springs), dart dual plane intake, eddy 750 carb, the block is of course getting clearanced, bored .030 over, magnafluxed and painted, new oil pump, MSD dist, it will be dyno tuned and should be close to the 500 mark. I can't wait. They have the block at the machine shop already. I will send pics when I get down there next week.

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suspect · 01-26-2013, 10:26 PM

Sounds like a sweet gig! It getting transformed into a stroker?

nicolas72gmc · 01-26-2013, 10:30 PM

Well I know they are putting a 400 crank in it so I guess it's getting de-stroked.!! Haha. Yeah it will be a 383.
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suspect · 01-26-2013, 10:34 PM

Cool. I'm building my first 383, so I'm pretty excited too. Can't wait to hear this bad boy with some longtubes.

nicolas72gmc · 01-26-2013, 10:37 PM

Cool, I'm gonna check out your build. I'm new to the engine building and what is best to use together as far as parts, so I let them pick out everything. They came highly recommended.
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nicolas72gmc · 03-01-2013, 11:16 PM

Getting closer!!! Had to do the orange, I should get the truck back in two weeks.

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shawno72 · 03-01-2013, 11:28 PM

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nicolas72gmc · 03-06-2013, 09:19 PM

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nicolas72gmc · 03-06-2013, 09:21 PM

Looking like an engine again
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GoaterAz · 03-06-2013, 09:37 PM

That is an awesome set up, Congrats!

Can I ask how much all of the work/parts are running you?

nicolas72gmc · 03-06-2013, 09:50 PM

Thanks goater. Yeah, with all new Callie's rotating assembly, machining, assembly, reinstall just under 10k. Basically the block is the only thing not new, but it was cleaned up and ultra sonic tested. I can't wait!!!!

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GoaterAz · 03-12-2013, 11:40 PM

Any updates? I'm all kinds of 10 grand excited, lol.

Is this going into the '68 or '72? I'm guessing '68.

nicolas72gmc · 03-12-2013, 11:58 PM

Hey Goater, I received a phone call on Friday and they have the engine in the truck and fired it up. I was hoping after the dyno tune and working the bugs out, this Thursday. I'm gonna call again in the morning. I feel the same as you brother with the excitement!!!!! Oh by the way, it's going in the 72. I have a vortec 350 in the 68.

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piecesparts · 03-13-2013, 12:39 AM

What compression ratio are you planning on?

nicolas72gmc · 03-13-2013, 12:49 AM

It should be around 10.7:1 to 11:1, or at least that's what they estimated with the dart supplied gasket and mahl pistons. The pro 1 heads I'm using are 64cc heads.
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Sammy · 03-13-2013, 08:30 AM

Sweet

Lee H · 03-13-2013, 10:56 AM

Sounds like a great motor, hope a lot of that HP and torque are in a RPM range you can use on a regular bases. Looking forward to seeing the dyno results.

nicolas72gmc · 03-13-2013, 01:16 PM

I hope so too. I asked that question when they started the build and told me that it should start making good hp at 1500 all the way to 6000. I did call this morning and it is on the dyno as we speak!!!!! Whoo Hooooooo!!!

piecesparts · 03-13-2013, 03:52 PM

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It should be around 10.7:1 to 11:1, or at least that's what they estimated with the dart supplied gasket and mahl pistons. The pro 1 heads I'm using are 64cc heads.
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Those are flat top pistons, so that may impact your compression ratio, some. If you are expecting to drive daily, then with a 10:1 compression, you will have issues with fuel and detonation. The aluminum heads will help, but the quality of fuels today is going to be your sore spot.

GoaterAz · 03-13-2013, 09:31 PM

Nice! What did it end up putting down?

Stickman · 03-13-2013, 09:41 PM

Where is ADS in Chandler?
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nicolas72gmc · 03-14-2013, 10:50 AM

Goater, they ended up doing the exhaust first. My hodge podge mixture of 2-1/4" to 2-1/2" wasn't cutting it.

Stickman..... right where th3 e 202 and i10 meet, on chandler blvd.

nicolas72gmc · 03-15-2013, 09:11 PM

Ok, they finished the exhaust and started the chassis dyno tuning this morning. As of right now it is laying down 352 ft/lbs at the wheels. John at ADS said they are gonna keep tweaking and they almost have the air/fuel perfect. He said it will still increase as the motor breaks in. I think I'm cool with the results so far. I'm not worried about hp ratings and I hope it does pick up some. They did get the exact numbers on comp ratio and it came in at 10.2:1. That's perfect I think. Any thoughts people?
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01-26-2013, 09:59 PM	#1
nicolas72gmc Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sunny Arizona Posts: 525	Getting my 350 transformed !!!! Ok here is the short of it.... After having a miss and finding out I blew the head gasket at the #8 cylinder, the guys down at the awesome ADS in chandler are building me a monster out of the gm crate I've been running for about 3 years. I couldn't resist. Mahl pistons, forged crank, retro roller set up with a comp cam and rockers, dart pro 1 platinum heads (dual springs), dart dual plane intake, eddy 750 carb, the block is of course getting clearanced, bored .030 over, magnafluxed and painted, new oil pump, MSD dist, it will be dyno tuned and should be close to the 500 mark. I can't wait. They have the block at the machine shop already. I will send pics when I get down there next week. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ Nick "Everyone has a plan, 'till they get punched in the mouth".........Mike Tyson 1968, GMC, SWB, Project 1972, GMC, LWB, Daily Driver, 383, headers, 2.5"/3" exhaust, 200r4, 3.5/5 ECE components. 1972, C/10, LWB, 350 vortec, th350

01-26-2013, 10:26 PM	#2
suspect Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: oklahoma city Posts: 692	Re: Getting my 350 transformed !!!! Sounds like a sweet gig! It getting transformed into a stroker? __________________ Daniel 68 C10 Build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=503594 Romans 10:13 Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.

01-26-2013, 10:30 PM	#3
nicolas72gmc Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sunny Arizona Posts: 525	Re: Getting my 350 transformed !!!! Well I know they are putting a 400 crank in it so I guess it's getting de-stroked.!! Haha. Yeah it will be a 383. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ Nick "Everyone has a plan, 'till they get punched in the mouth".........Mike Tyson 1968, GMC, SWB, Project 1972, GMC, LWB, Daily Driver, 383, headers, 2.5"/3" exhaust, 200r4, 3.5/5 ECE components. 1972, C/10, LWB, 350 vortec, th350

01-26-2013, 10:34 PM	#4
suspect Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: oklahoma city Posts: 692	Re: Getting my 350 transformed !!!! Cool. I'm building my first 383, so I'm pretty excited too. Can't wait to hear this bad boy with some longtubes. __________________ Daniel 68 C10 Build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=503594 Romans 10:13 Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.

01-26-2013, 10:37 PM	#5
nicolas72gmc Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sunny Arizona Posts: 525	Re: Getting my 350 transformed !!!! Cool, I'm gonna check out your build. I'm new to the engine building and what is best to use together as far as parts, so I let them pick out everything. They came highly recommended. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ Nick "Everyone has a plan, 'till they get punched in the mouth".........Mike Tyson 1968, GMC, SWB, Project 1972, GMC, LWB, Daily Driver, 383, headers, 2.5"/3" exhaust, 200r4, 3.5/5 ECE components. 1972, C/10, LWB, 350 vortec, th350

03-01-2013, 11:16 PM	#6
nicolas72gmc Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sunny Arizona Posts: 525	Re: Getting my 350 transformed !!!! Getting closer!!! Had to do the orange, I should get the truck back in two weeks. Posted via Mobile Device Posted via Mobile Device Attached Images __________________ Nick "Everyone has a plan, 'till they get punched in the mouth".........Mike Tyson 1968, GMC, SWB, Project 1972, GMC, LWB, Daily Driver, 383, headers, 2.5"/3" exhaust, 200r4, 3.5/5 ECE components. 1972, C/10, LWB, 350 vortec, th350

03-01-2013, 11:17 PM	#7
nicolas72gmc Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sunny Arizona Posts: 525	Re: Getting my 350 transformed !!!! Posted via Mobile Device Attached Images __________________ Nick "Everyone has a plan, 'till they get punched in the mouth".........Mike Tyson 1968, GMC, SWB, Project 1972, GMC, LWB, Daily Driver, 383, headers, 2.5"/3" exhaust, 200r4, 3.5/5 ECE components. 1972, C/10, LWB, 350 vortec, th350

03-01-2013, 11:19 PM	#8
nicolas72gmc Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sunny Arizona Posts: 525	Re: Getting my 350 transformed !!!! Posted via Mobile Device Posted via Mobile Device Attached Images __________________ Nick "Everyone has a plan, 'till they get punched in the mouth".........Mike Tyson 1968, GMC, SWB, Project 1972, GMC, LWB, Daily Driver, 383, headers, 2.5"/3" exhaust, 200r4, 3.5/5 ECE components. 1972, C/10, LWB, 350 vortec, th350

03-01-2013, 11:28 PM	#9
shawno72 C/10 junkie Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Stockton Ca Posts: 9,093	Re: Getting my 350 transformed !!!! Subscribed. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ Shawn 70 LWB C10 current driver/project http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=663051 68 SWB C10 Work in progress.....SOLD http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=559520 72 LWB C10 Sold 71 LWB C10 Sold 68 LWB C10 CST Sold http://youtu.be/kbB0QrBIs9k My mom always had the best advice. It was just a tad late. After a fall that involved blood, she'd say....."Careful!"

03-06-2013, 09:19 PM	#10
nicolas72gmc Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sunny Arizona Posts: 525	Re: Getting my 350 transformed !!!! Posted via Mobile Device Posted via Mobile Device Attached Images __________________ Nick "Everyone has a plan, 'till they get punched in the mouth".........Mike Tyson 1968, GMC, SWB, Project 1972, GMC, LWB, Daily Driver, 383, headers, 2.5"/3" exhaust, 200r4, 3.5/5 ECE components. 1972, C/10, LWB, 350 vortec, th350

03-06-2013, 09:21 PM	#11
nicolas72gmc Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sunny Arizona Posts: 525	Re: Getting my 350 transformed !!!! Looking like an engine again Posted via Mobile Device Posted via Mobile Device Attached Images __________________ Nick "Everyone has a plan, 'till they get punched in the mouth".........Mike Tyson 1968, GMC, SWB, Project 1972, GMC, LWB, Daily Driver, 383, headers, 2.5"/3" exhaust, 200r4, 3.5/5 ECE components. 1972, C/10, LWB, 350 vortec, th350

03-06-2013, 09:37 PM	#12
GoaterAz Registered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Arizona Posts: 222	Re: Getting my 350 transformed !!!! That is an awesome set up, Congrats! Can I ask how much all of the work/parts are running you?

03-06-2013, 09:50 PM	#13
nicolas72gmc Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sunny Arizona Posts: 525	Re: Getting my 350 transformed !!!! Thanks goater. Yeah, with all new Callie's rotating assembly, machining, assembly, reinstall just under 10k. Basically the block is the only thing not new, but it was cleaned up and ultra sonic tested. I can't wait!!!! Posted via Mobile Device __________________ Nick "Everyone has a plan, 'till they get punched in the mouth".........Mike Tyson 1968, GMC, SWB, Project 1972, GMC, LWB, Daily Driver, 383, headers, 2.5"/3" exhaust, 200r4, 3.5/5 ECE components. 1972, C/10, LWB, 350 vortec, th350

03-12-2013, 11:40 PM	#14
GoaterAz Registered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Arizona Posts: 222	Re: Getting my 350 transformed !!!! Any updates? I'm all kinds of 10 grand excited, lol. Is this going into the '68 or '72? I'm guessing '68.

03-12-2013, 11:58 PM	#15
nicolas72gmc Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sunny Arizona Posts: 525	Re: Getting my 350 transformed !!!! Hey Goater, I received a phone call on Friday and they have the engine in the truck and fired it up. I was hoping after the dyno tune and working the bugs out, this Thursday. I'm gonna call again in the morning. I feel the same as you brother with the excitement!!!!! Oh by the way, it's going in the 72. I have a vortec 350 in the 68. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ Nick "Everyone has a plan, 'till they get punched in the mouth".........Mike Tyson 1968, GMC, SWB, Project 1972, GMC, LWB, Daily Driver, 383, headers, 2.5"/3" exhaust, 200r4, 3.5/5 ECE components. 1972, C/10, LWB, 350 vortec, th350



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03-13-2013, 12:39 AM	#16
piecesparts Parts and more parts Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lebo, Kansas (middle of nowhere Posts: 6,821	Re: Getting my 350 transformed !!!! What compression ratio are you planning on? __________________ Frank

03-13-2013, 12:49 AM	#17
nicolas72gmc Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sunny Arizona Posts: 525	Re: Getting my 350 transformed !!!! It should be around 10.7:1 to 11:1, or at least that's what they estimated with the dart supplied gasket and mahl pistons. The pro 1 heads I'm using are 64cc heads. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ Nick "Everyone has a plan, 'till they get punched in the mouth".........Mike Tyson 1968, GMC, SWB, Project 1972, GMC, LWB, Daily Driver, 383, headers, 2.5"/3" exhaust, 200r4, 3.5/5 ECE components. 1972, C/10, LWB, 350 vortec, th350

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Sammy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Bonne Terre, Mo Posts: 3,005	Re: Getting my 350 transformed !!!! Sweet __________________ '69 Chevy Long Fleet & '71 GMC Short Step & Project "ODD BALL" "You can wash a pig, soak it in most expensive perfume. In the end it is still just a pig." ODD BALL build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=478629"

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Lee H Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Upland Ca Posts: 4,147	Re: Getting my 350 transformed !!!! Sounds like a great motor, hope a lot of that HP and torque are in a RPM range you can use on a regular bases. Looking forward to seeing the dyno results. __________________ 1972 C10 SWB, Air, PS, PB, 350/350THM. Second owner. 1965 Corvette roadster, 44K miles, 327/365 SHP, 4 speed, side exhaust, knockoffs, teak, second owner (bought in 1970), Have ALL numbers matching components. My frame off restoration thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=556703

03-13-2013, 01:16 PM	#20
nicolas72gmc Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sunny Arizona Posts: 525	Re: Getting my 350 transformed !!!! I hope so too. I asked that question when they started the build and told me that it should start making good hp at 1500 all the way to 6000. I did call this morning and it is on the dyno as we speak!!!!! Whoo Hooooooo!!! __________________ Nick "Everyone has a plan, 'till they get punched in the mouth".........Mike Tyson 1968, GMC, SWB, Project 1972, GMC, LWB, Daily Driver, 383, headers, 2.5"/3" exhaust, 200r4, 3.5/5 ECE components. 1972, C/10, LWB, 350 vortec, th350

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GoaterAz Registered User Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Arizona Posts: 222	Re: Getting my 350 transformed !!!! Nice! What did it end up putting down?

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03-14-2013, 10:50 AM	#24
nicolas72gmc Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sunny Arizona Posts: 525	Re: Getting my 350 transformed !!!! Goater, they ended up doing the exhaust first. My hodge podge mixture of 2-1/4" to 2-1/2" wasn't cutting it. Stickman..... right where th3 e 202 and i10 meet, on chandler blvd. Attached Images __________________ Nick "Everyone has a plan, 'till they get punched in the mouth".........Mike Tyson 1968, GMC, SWB, Project 1972, GMC, LWB, Daily Driver, 383, headers, 2.5"/3" exhaust, 200r4, 3.5/5 ECE components. 1972, C/10, LWB, 350 vortec, th350

03-15-2013, 09:11 PM	#25
nicolas72gmc Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sunny Arizona Posts: 525	Re: Getting my 350 transformed !!!! Ok, they finished the exhaust and started the chassis dyno tuning this morning. As of right now it is laying down 352 ft/lbs at the wheels. John at ADS said they are gonna keep tweaking and they almost have the air/fuel perfect. He said it will still increase as the motor breaks in. I think I'm cool with the results so far. I'm not worried about hp ratings and I hope it does pick up some. They did get the exact numbers on comp ratio and it came in at 10.2:1. That's perfect I think. Any thoughts people? Posted via Mobile Device __________________ Nick "Everyone has a plan, 'till they get punched in the mouth".........Mike Tyson 1968, GMC, SWB, Project 1972, GMC, LWB, Daily Driver, 383, headers, 2.5"/3" exhaust, 200r4, 3.5/5 ECE components. 1972, C/10, LWB, 350 vortec, th350

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