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Lugnutz65 · 08-14-2013, 09:30 PM

I did a search in the TOOL section and really didn't find any useful info about this really cool tool. I bought one today and it works really well.

It's called a needle scaler. It's an air tool that uses hardened steel rods (12 of them on the mini version I bought) to chip away at scaled rust, hardened undercoating and caked on "whatever". It has certain uses, so it's not for everything and won't replace your sander or grinder. For instance, you would not use it to remove paint from a body panel. I find it useful to get into corners where disc grinders and wire wheels can't reach. Plus, it chips stuff off, instead of gumming up your grinding wheel or sandpaper.

I love it. Here are some before and after pics of my first time results. Sorry that one of the before pics is out of focus.

Also, watch the video I linked showing removal of undercoating. Link = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xha4xY-dMrQ

T Smith · 08-14-2013, 10:07 PM

Man, that made me shudder! I got plenty of time behind those when I rode towboats on the river back in the 70's, chip, prime, paint, chip, prime, paint......

MailManX2 · 08-14-2013, 10:17 PM

Those work great. A few years ago I used one on a really rusty junk 5.3 engine that I had picked up to use as a mock up motor. It took me about 20 minutes to have all the rust and scale off the block.

I never thought of using it to remove old undercoating. I'll have to give it a try.

jimmyjammoto · 08-14-2013, 10:51 PM

You can use it to anneal a mig weld on cro-mo tubing also.
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Lugnutz65 · 08-14-2013, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmyjammoto

You can use it to anneal a mig weld on cro-mo tubing also.
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I need more info please. Not sure I understand. Can you explain?

markeb01 · 08-15-2013, 12:43 AM

Wow those after photos almost look like the area has been sandblasted. Thanks for sharing.

jimmyjammoto · 08-15-2013, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Lugnutz65

I need more info please. Not sure I understand. Can you explain?

Sorry, my terms were mixed up..I had meant to say you can use it to peen a weld on cast iron to help relieve stress as the material cools down.
Have seen it used when mig welding trusses on axles where they tie into the pumpkin, if you cant tig it for whatever reason.

I am not a professional welder so do not hold me liable for any damage that may occur from not using the best method of welding for your material.

sorry the thread jack..
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Blue666 · 08-15-2013, 09:21 PM

How much air is needed to run that?

Lugnutz65 · 08-15-2013, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue666

How much air is needed to run that?

My mini needle scaler uses 4cfm at 90 psi.

19666Trucker · 08-15-2013, 10:53 PM

I been thinking of getting one, you just sold me one. Thanks for the post.
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61_FL_Apache · 08-16-2013, 08:29 AM

Adding that to the wish list!

timmytimm3 · 08-16-2013, 12:15 PM

One of the best tools I own. I used it on my entire Jeep frame and front axle knuckles (swapped in a high pinion d30 from a XJ cherokee). My Dad used it on his step side project, and my brother used it on his pickup. Great tool and cheap! Needle scale, wire wheel, wipe, prime, paint.

Don't forget ear protection. They get annoying after a while and of course safety glasses.

JWheeler331 · 08-16-2013, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by T Smith

Man, that made me shudder! I got plenty of time behind those when I rode towboats on the river back in the 70's, chip, prime, paint, chip, prime, paint......

That was my thought EXACTLY when I seen this. When I was a little younger and worked on the boats I logged many hours on one of these also. Even wore a hole in some steel toe boots one time because I tried to hide and had it propped up on my steel toe so it would still have the sound so I could catch a little shut eye. After a while this thing did some good damage on the steel toe being there in one spot for so long.

LostMy65 · 08-16-2013, 12:48 PM

So how many pennies does it cost?
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Lugnutz65 · 08-16-2013, 02:33 PM

Regular price at HF in my area is $29 + change. I used a 20% off coupon so it was just under $26 including tax. They have a larger version but I think it'd only be useful for bigger jobs. Replacement rods (needles) run about $5 a set but the originals should last a long time.

joesscamaro · 08-16-2013, 02:42 PM

They are great tools! I used them when I was working with a government contractor on humvees and trailors and 7-tons. They are very useful and from my experience with them, the needles will last a long time.

gulfcoast66 · 08-16-2013, 06:47 PM

A Needle Gun. WorkBoat, DeckHand, I never want to use one of them again

Very good tool for the job.
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FetchMeAPepsi · 08-17-2013, 11:16 AM

OK Lugnutz! You got me. You and Vernski anyway lol. He sent me a link as soon as you posted this and said "Boy you better get you one o' these!" so I did. I didn't see any coupons though. Post it up!

It'll be here next week. I've got my shootin earcups I'll be using and my shootin glasses. We'll see if it's so awesome or if you're just the guy that makes these lookin for job security!

(I'm not excited at all if you can tell!)

**Warrens69GMC** · 08-17-2013, 11:44 AM

Coupons come out in the Sunday paper.

Wrenchbender Ret · 08-17-2013, 04:19 PM

I went out & got one. I have been scraping crud off an old Mopar flathead 6. It is helping a lot.

Lugnutz65 · 08-17-2013, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by FetchMeAPepsi

OK Lugnutz! You got me. You and Vernski anyway lol. He sent me a link as soon as you posted this and said "Boy you better get you one o' these!" so I did. I didn't see any coupons though. Post it up!

It'll be here next week. I've got my shootin earcups I'll be using and my shootin glasses. We'll see if it's so awesome or if you're just the guy that makes these lookin for job security!

(I'm not excited at all if you can tell!)

I bet you didn't watch the video. I saw the video and got so excited that I went outside and tried mine out in the rain (well a drizzle maybe) just to see if it worked as well. Trust me on this one.

Watch this video Link = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xha4xY-dMrQ

cab_01 · 08-17-2013, 06:34 PM

Bought one today. Will try it out tomorrow.

Lugnutz65 · 08-31-2013, 09:24 PM

Well, I thought I should post a video of MY results. Full of glitches and I don't know why. Sorry.

I can't think of a better way to remove undercoating, . . . . . . except maybe someone doing it for me while I take a nap!

C10 - C90 Bill · 09-01-2013, 12:11 AM

Looks good. I'll have to put it on my list.

Bill

lasher78 · 09-01-2013, 04:07 AM

gonna make a trip to HF monday ( having a labor day sale ) and im a cheap a@*, hoping can use this thing to clean underside of cab and frame while truck is assembled( cuase i aint taken it apart lol ).
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08-14-2013, 09:30 PM	#1
Lugnutz65 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 1,927	Wonderful tool! Worth every penny! I did a search in the TOOL section and really didn't find any useful info about this really cool tool. I bought one today and it works really well. It's called a needle scaler. It's an air tool that uses hardened steel rods (12 of them on the mini version I bought) to chip away at scaled rust, hardened undercoating and caked on "whatever". It has certain uses, so it's not for everything and won't replace your sander or grinder. For instance, you would not use it to remove paint from a body panel. I find it useful to get into corners where disc grinders and wire wheels can't reach. Plus, it chips stuff off, instead of gumming up your grinding wheel or sandpaper. I love it. Here are some before and after pics of my first time results. Sorry that one of the before pics is out of focus. Also, watch the video I linked showing removal of undercoating. Link = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xha4xY-dMrQ __________________ My 65 C10 build: www.lugnutz65chevystepside.weebly.com Want to know more about T5 transmissions? My website has a T5 Info Page and a Step by Step T5 rebuild.

08-14-2013, 10:07 PM	#2
T Smith Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Vicksburg, Mississippi Posts: 567	Re: Wonderful tool! Worth every penny! Man, that made me shudder! I got plenty of time behind those when I rode towboats on the river back in the 70's, chip, prime, paint, chip, prime, paint......

08-14-2013, 10:17 PM	#3
MailManX2 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ledyard, CT Posts: 119	Re: Wonderful tool! Worth every penny! Those work great. A few years ago I used one on a really rusty junk 5.3 engine that I had picked up to use as a mock up motor. It took me about 20 minutes to have all the rust and scale off the block. I never thought of using it to remove old undercoating. I'll have to give it a try. __________________ Ken B 60 Chevy Apache 2019 Chevy Silverado Z71 Why buy something when you can build it for twice the price.. Just because something can be done doesn't mean it should be done...

08-14-2013, 10:51 PM	#4
jimmyjammoto Registered User Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Hubbard TX Posts: 73	Re: Wonderful tool! Worth every penny! You can use it to anneal a mig weld on cro-mo tubing also. Posted via Mobile Device

08-15-2013, 12:43 AM	#6
markeb01 Senior Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Spokane Valley, WA Posts: 8,356	Re: Wonderful tool! Worth every penny! Wow those after photos almost look like the area has been sandblasted. Thanks for sharing. __________________ My Build Thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=444502

08-15-2013, 09:21 PM	#8
Blue666 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Andrews, NC Posts: 194	Re: Wonderful tool! Worth every penny! How much air is needed to run that?

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19666Trucker Registered User Join Date: May 2013 Location: Scottsdale, Az Posts: 245	Re: Wonderful tool! Worth every penny! I been thinking of getting one, you just sold me one. Thanks for the post. Posted via Mobile Device

08-16-2013, 08:29 AM	#11
61_FL_Apache Who Me? Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Royal Palm Beach, FL Posts: 4,067	Re: Wonderful tool! Worth every penny! Adding that to the wish list! __________________ Steve 1997 Tahoe LT 4D 2WD (DD) 2001 Blazer 4D 2WD 1961 Apache 10 (sold) 1965 C10 Stepper (sold)

08-16-2013, 12:15 PM	#12
timmytimm3 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: CT Posts: 265	Re: Wonderful tool! Worth every penny! One of the best tools I own. I used it on my entire Jeep frame and front axle knuckles (swapped in a high pinion d30 from a XJ cherokee). My Dad used it on his step side project, and my brother used it on his pickup. Great tool and cheap! Needle scale, wire wheel, wipe, prime, paint. Don't forget ear protection. They get annoying after a while and of course safety glasses. __________________ http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=742865 66 SWB, C4 Dropmember timmytimm3 on IG "If you don't have time to do it right the first time, when will you?" -Dad

08-16-2013, 12:48 PM	#14
LostMy65 But Found Her 25yrs Later! Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Oregon City, Oregon Posts: 10,530	Re: Wonderful tool! Worth every penny! So how many pennies does it cost? Posted via Mobile Device __________________ I lost my 65 - Found it 25 years later: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=426650 66 C20 Service Truck: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=428035

08-16-2013, 02:33 PM	#15
Lugnutz65 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 1,927	Re: Wonderful tool! Worth every penny! Regular price at HF in my area is $29 + change. I used a 20% off coupon so it was just under $26 including tax. They have a larger version but I think it'd only be useful for bigger jobs. Replacement rods (needles) run about $5 a set but the originals should last a long time. __________________ My 65 C10 build: www.lugnutz65chevystepside.weebly.com Want to know more about T5 transmissions? My website has a T5 Info Page and a Step by Step T5 rebuild.

08-16-2013, 02:42 PM	#16
joesscamaro Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Newport, North Carolina Posts: 643	Re: Wonderful tool! Worth every penny! They are great tools! I used them when I was working with a government contractor on humvees and trailors and 7-tons. They are very useful and from my experience with them, the needles will last a long time.

08-16-2013, 06:47 PM	#17
gulfcoast66 64-66 CHEVY JUNKIE Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Cypress ,Texas Posts: 1,516	Re: Wonderful tool! Worth every penny! A Needle Gun. WorkBoat, DeckHand, I never want to use one of them again Very good tool for the job. Posted via Mobile Device __________________ 1966 C-10 Fleetside LWB, 350 Lt1 4l60-E 2008 Silverado Crew Cab, 4.8 4l60-E 1998 GMC Yukon 4x4 L-31 Vortec, 4l60-E 2017 GMC Serra 4x4 5.3 Vortec, 4l60-E Do It In A Chevrolet

08-17-2013, 11:16 AM	#18
FetchMeAPepsi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Edmond, Ks Posts: 595	Re: Wonderful tool! Worth every penny! OK Lugnutz! You got me. You and Vernski anyway lol. He sent me a link as soon as you posted this and said "Boy you better get you one o' these!" so I did. I didn't see any coupons though. Post it up! It'll be here next week. I've got my shootin earcups I'll be using and my shootin glasses. We'll see if it's so awesome or if you're just the guy that makes these lookin for job security! (I'm not excited at all if you can tell!) __________________ Step by steps: Remove primer to reveal original paint Rebuild a carburetor See My Build - Cecilia! Some people are like slinkys. Not worth much but funny as heck when pushed down stairs.

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08-17-2013, 04:19 PM	#20
Wrenchbender Ret Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Overland Park, Ks. Posts: 5,229	Re: Wonderful tool! Worth every penny! I went out & got one. I have been scraping crud off an old Mopar flathead 6. It is helping a lot.

08-17-2013, 06:34 PM	#22
cab_01 Registered User Join Date: May 2013 Location: San Diego Posts: 67	Re: Wonderful tool! Worth every penny! Bought one today. Will try it out tomorrow.

08-31-2013, 09:24 PM	#23
Lugnutz65 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 1,927	Re: Wonderful tool! Worth every penny! Well, I thought I should post a video of MY results. Full of glitches and I don't know why. Sorry. I can't think of a better way to remove undercoating, . . . . . . except maybe someone doing it for me while I take a nap! __________________ My 65 C10 build: www.lugnutz65chevystepside.weebly.com Want to know more about T5 transmissions? My website has a T5 Info Page and a Step by Step T5 rebuild.

09-01-2013, 12:11 AM	#24
C10 - C90 Bill Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Moneta, VA USA Posts: 3,087	Re: Wonderful tool! Worth every penny! Looks good. I'll have to put it on my list. Bill __________________ '60-'72 Chev/GMC Fan GMC 9500 Fan Detroit Diesel Fan

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lasher78 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: harviell, mo Posts: 246	Re: Wonderful tool! Worth every penny! gonna make a trip to HF monday ( having a labor day sale ) and im a cheap a@, hoping can use this thing to clean underside of cab and frame while truck is assembled( cuase i aint taken it apart lol ). Posted via Mobile Device* __________________ live like you are dying

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