The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > 47 - Current classic GM Trucks > Heavy Haulers

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-03-2014, 01:28 PM   #26
bts2
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: elkin,nc
Posts: 13
Re: 1970 C50 Brakes

Sorry for the noob response. I am familiar with hydroboost where there is either a gas accumulator or electric motor as backup. Since I don't have a donor, I'm going off of diagrams and random pics that indicated an electric motor backup for the hy-power option, whereas the dual-power option has the traditional vacuum booster behind the hydro-boost. I'm still learning - if you have pics of the setup under the hood, that would be awesome. So it goes like this:

pedal-rod-hydraulic booster-M/C-balance valve-wheel cylinders. Guess I need to hit a junkyard. There's a rod in between the booster and MC right?
bts2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2014, 02:58 PM   #27
84rzv500r
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Elmira NY/Palm Beach FL
Posts: 69
Re: 1970 C50 Brakes

the medium duty Hydra-boost has no nitrogen charged accumulator...

yo u can google and/or ebay to get pics and specs for the components.. it matters a bit what size slave cylinders you have...
__________________
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
72 GMC K5500 Napco 4x4 8V71/RTO-9513/T-1138
71 Corvette Wide Body 502 Ramjet
83 HD XR1000, 99 HD XL1200S, 84 YAM RZV500R
05 MB E55 AMG, 12 45th Camaro SS stick vert
84rzv500r is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2014, 08:45 PM   #28
bts2
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: elkin,nc
Posts: 13
Re: 1970 C50 Brakes

thanks - i've googled away and found pics of the booster and MC but not the whole system. I don't want to go on a parts bin shopping spree without understanding the whole system first. I'll keep looking for pics of an actual truck or look around the yards here. I gotta pull the old stuff out too from the 1970 to get the bore diameters and such.
bts2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2014, 12:46 AM   #29
bts2
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: elkin,nc
Posts: 13
Re: 1970 C50 Brakes

Guys, further research here... the 83-87 Hy-power brakes have an electric motor under the hydraulic booster to back up the boost when there is no flow from the steering pump (engine off, pump failure, blown line...) The other brake option those years is "Dual power" which uses both a vacuum booster AND a hydraulic booster, where each backs up the other.

Now, mind you, I haven't laid hands on either yet but I have talked to the rebuilders and got several system diagrams. See attached shot from the Chevy Medium Truck 87 Service Manual.

Are you guys sure about the no electric motor backup ?

Colgad, can you post pics of your 67 booster setup - would be awesome to clear up my fuzzy mind.
Attached Images
 
bts2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2014, 08:05 AM   #30
colgad
Registered User
 
colgad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Lutz, Florida
Posts: 838
Re: 1970 C50 Brakes

Here is my setup on my C10. The Gold cylinder on the lower Left is the hydraulic reserve (see diagram). I have an adjustable proportion valve for the rear brakes and an adjustable pressure valve to give me a better steering wheel feel. The gauge is the pressure to the rear.
Attached Images
    
__________________
1967 Red, C10 Short Bed 6.0L T5 5 speed
1967 Orange and Black C50 6.2 Detroit Diesel NV4500, 2 Ton Pickup
1972 White, Chevy Blazer 2WD 67 Dog house 5.3 4L65 2016 Power Tour LH
1955 Red-Cream, Chevrolet Nomad, restoration on hold
2004 Black, Corvette Z06 LS6 convertible (Rock solid Fun) 2011/2018 Power Tour
colgad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2014, 06:23 AM   #31
bts2
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: elkin,nc
Posts: 13
Re: 1970 C50 Brakes

Very nice setup! I think I'm going to copy this for my '73 K-5. Did you use the same setup on your C50? I know it's gone now, but do yo have any pics of the booster on it?
bts2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2014, 08:09 AM   #32
colgad
Registered User
 
colgad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Lutz, Florida
Posts: 838
Re: 1970 C50 Brakes

On my last C50 it was vacuum.

My current C50 under construction is yet to be determined. Since my current C50 will have TopKick 4 wheel disk which all have 2 2.3" pistons, the requirement of a dual Master Cylinder with at least a 1.5" diameter bore is needed.

Hydroboost may be my only option. It's a little more expensive but takes up less room.
I plan to remove the 327 sometime in the future and put in a 454 I have but for now the 327 will get me around.
Attached Images
 
__________________
1967 Red, C10 Short Bed 6.0L T5 5 speed
1967 Orange and Black C50 6.2 Detroit Diesel NV4500, 2 Ton Pickup
1972 White, Chevy Blazer 2WD 67 Dog house 5.3 4L65 2016 Power Tour LH
1955 Red-Cream, Chevrolet Nomad, restoration on hold
2004 Black, Corvette Z06 LS6 convertible (Rock solid Fun) 2011/2018 Power Tour
colgad is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:30 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com