The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > 47 - Current classic GM Trucks > The 1973 - 1987 Chevrolet & GMC Squarebody Pickups Message Board

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-09-2014, 02:24 PM   #1
NebraskaRanger
Registered User
 
NebraskaRanger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Chappell, NE
Posts: 1
Question 1975 K10 Engine Swap Questions

Hey everyone. So I am the new guy here. So I'll introduce myself.

I'm Levi. 22 year old graphic designer at Cabela's here in Nebraska.

I just recently bought a 1975 K10. This truck is absolutely beautiful. I love it a lot. However...I managed to seize up the engine (305) within 4 days of buying it. I am not a smart human being. I have tried manually turning it over, push starting it, nothing has worked. So it's lead me to believe that it's screwed and I should start searching for a new engine. I told my dad about my situation and he told me that he has a 1979 K10 with a rebuilt 350 out at the farm. He said it ran when he parked last year, so it might need some TLC, but told me I could take the engine out of it and put it in the 75.

Now, as you could probably guess by my job title, I am no mechanic. I have read up on 305 to 350 swaps on here, but none of it really makes sense to me. From what I read, everything should bolt right up. But there is talk of TBI, sensors, headers, etc. that throws a wrench in my head.

So, explain like I'm 5...what do I need to know about doing an engine swap or things that you wish you knew when you did yours?

Thanks in advance. I appreciate it!

(Also, if there's a post that has pretty much everything I need to look at, please feel free to link to it.)
NebraskaRanger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-09-2014, 05:27 PM   #2
83swb
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: CT
Posts: 133
Re: 1975 K10 Engine Swap Questions

Let me begin by saying that both the 305 and 350 share all the same external characteristics, to make it short the 305 is just a smaller displacement 350. As long long as both motors are Gen1 (First generation chevy small block), which they should be considering both trucks are the same vintage, EVERYTHING should be a straight over swap. When I say straight over I mean that with the engines out of both trucks the "new" motor would bolt in the engine bay exactly the same as the other. You may run into very minor issues in the swap, distributors may be a different style requiring that you modify the power and tachometer connections, exhaust manifolds may be different or one may have headers, you may have to modify your fuel line etc. You should be able to leave all the accessories on the motor while doing the swap if everything on the other motor is in operating condition (IE alternator, power steering pump, water pump, pulleys). Of course you'll run into other small issues during the process but its all part of the learning process. That being said, a shade tree mechanic could probably do the swap in a day and change.

It wouldn't hurt to buy a haynes service manual or something similar.
83swb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-10-2014, 10:29 PM   #3
73Super8
Registered User
 
73Super8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: South Charleston,WV
Posts: 138
Re: 1975 K10 Engine Swap Questions

I'll subscribe. Might learn something.
73Super8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2014, 07:46 AM   #4
andrewmp6
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Louisville,Ky
Posts: 5,811
Re: 1975 K10 Engine Swap Questions

It should be a 99% bolt in but like said something small will pop up you have to make work.
andrewmp6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2014, 07:57 AM   #5
86c20
Registered User
 
86c20's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: edgartown mass
Posts: 852
Re: 1975 K10 Engine Swap Questions

i have to ask is it the motor wont run or it wont turn over? no need to repace a motor for a bad coil or lose wire. plz give more details about what happend.
__________________
1986 c20 "the hillbilly" 350 sm465 3.42gears 21mpg at 70mph
1985 k30 "the ice cream truck from hell" no rust az truck
197-8??? c30 "ramp truck" 454
1978 monte carlo 350 350th with 2.73 gears. no rust. sc car
86c20 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2014, 12:07 PM   #6
Dead Parrot
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
Posts: 2,590
Re: 1975 K10 Engine Swap Questions

Any idea why it seized? Lack of oil? Got too hot? Loud clanking/grinding before it stopped? You said you tried push starting, so it has a manual transmission? Keep in mind that on a 39 year old truck, almost anything can fail. Wore out brushes on the starter can cause that to do nothing, no clicks or anything. Went through that a couple of weeks ago. If you got it too hot due to a stuck thermostat, you can crack a head gasket and possibly hydraulic lock a cylinder due to coolant leaking into it. You can pull the spark plugs to check for excessive fluids.

If you decide to swap the motors, verify the donor motor is worth the trouble before doing the swap.

A good camera is your friend. Take lots of pictures. Both of the donor truck and yours. Very helpful when trying to figure out where that weird wire or hose goes.

Clean and degrease both motors before starting.

Plan on needing at least $200 in various small parts to complete the job. Just seems to work out that way.

Consider taking the transmission to a shop for inspection and possible seal replacement. If manual transmission, also have the clutch checked out. You will have most of the removal/installation work done anyway as part of the motor swap.
Dead Parrot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2014, 12:17 PM   #7
donut
Registered User
 
donut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: S.C.
Posts: 1,593
Re: 1975 K10 Engine Swap Questions

Welcome Levi, I'm kinda intrigued as to your dilemma.
First thing I would recommend in a Chilton's/Haynes manual from your local auto parts store, education is a major factor and can help down the road, (plus lotsa pictures...)

On this site, go into your user CP, make up a signature with pertinent specs of your truck, and/or post exactly what you have. Transmission, highly modified etc, can make a difference.

Trying to turn it over, do NOT do it by the bolt in the harmonic balancer. This bolt breaks and you have potentially bigger problems.

Ok, we know your lacking on the knowledge part, no biggee, we all had to start somewhere. What's your tool situation? Do you have a place to work on it and leave it until your done? Jack, jack stands, potentially a hoist.... How about a digital camera? Take pictures for reference so you can put it back together, and so you don't have to post a "where does this wire go", thread.

Whatever you do, work safe.
__________________
'86 C-30 dually, 454/tbh400
'73 K-20 350/350/205 (sold )

I'm kinda like duct tape- no real purpose, but handy to have around.
donut is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
305, 350, engine., k10, swap


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:53 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com