The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > 47 - Current classic GM Trucks > The 1973 - 1987 Chevrolet & GMC Squarebody Pickups Message Board

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-13-2015, 07:58 PM   #1
SnowNeck
Registered User
 
SnowNeck's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 132
Gas gauge problem/question

The other day I replaced my rear mounted gas tank in my 85' went from a 25-31 or so, the depth of the tanks were about the same so I used the same sending unit. After it was all finished I started the truck up to notice the needle on the gas gauge was bout a nick past full at bout 180 degrees. Doesn't seem that it's moving at all either. Put some more gas in it and drove it, no movement, now is this a sending unit issue? Ground ? Or should I get a new gauge being that I went up in size.
__________________
1985 High Sierra step side 4x4
SnowNeck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-13-2015, 10:04 PM   #2
hatzie
Moderator
 
hatzie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Wentworth, NH
Posts: 4,977
Re: Gas gauge problem/question

If the tank depth is the same then you'll be just fine with the same sender. The sender measures fuel level in inches from the bottom to the top not gallons of capacity.
The stock GM fuel sender and gauge are calibrated to not start dropping for around 1/8 of actual capacity to give the perception of better fuel mileage.

If you hooked up the sender ground from the tank ring to the frame then you probably have an expectation issue... your expectation is calibrated for the 25 gallon tank so you're expecting to see needle movement in 20-50 miles.

Since the depth is the same... 1" of float drop on the 31 gallon tank = more gallons than the old 25 gallon tank. The fuel gauge needle should behave noticeably different because it takes more miles to burn more gallons.
Assuming 13mpg and a 31 gallon tank you should see around 1/2 - 5/8 on the gauge once you drive 200-210 miles.
On the old 25 gallon tank again assuming 13mpg you would only go 160-170 miles on 1/2 tank...
__________________
1959 M35A2 LDT465-1D SOLD
1967 Dodge W200 B383, NP420/NP201 SOLD
1969 Dodge Polara 500 B383, A833 SOLD
1972 Ford F250 FE390, NP435/NP205 SOLD
1976 Chevy K20, 6.5L, NV4500/NP208 SOLD
1986 M1008 CUCV SOLD
2000 GMC C2500, TD6.5L, NV4500
2005 Chevy Silverado LS 2500HD 6.0L 4L80E/NP263
2009 Impala SS LS4 V8


RTFM... GM Parts Books, GM Schematics, GM service manuals, and GM training materials...Please include at least the year and model in your threads. It'll be easier to answer your questions.
And please let us know if and how your repairs were successful.
hatzie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2015, 10:24 AM   #3
SnowNeck
Registered User
 
SnowNeck's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 132
Re: Gas gauge problem/question

So I need to check my ground wire,and then go from there. The original tank was actually a 15-18 gallon tank that was replaced by the previous owner. The last owner moved it to the rear of the truck and then recently it started to leak. I then replaced the 25 gallon tank with the 31. I feel my gauge has always been off slightly. However, I'm going to be driving a little bit today so I'll see if it moves at all. Also I forgot to add, I filled the tank up and the gauge didn't move from where it was, at the 180 degrees position, to the right past full. That's why I'm worried that the sending unit may not actually be as far down in the tank as I thought it was.
__________________
1985 High Sierra step side 4x4
SnowNeck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2015, 10:29 AM   #4
hatzie
Moderator
 
hatzie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Wentworth, NH
Posts: 4,977
Re: Gas gauge problem/question

180 degrees... as in needle at roughly 3:00 on the face?

A 3:00 needle, if this is the symptom, usually means... in order of probability.
#1 the tank ground is not making a connection or is missing.
#2 the sender isn't plugged in.
#3 there's a break in the wiring between the sender and the gauge.
__________________
1959 M35A2 LDT465-1D SOLD
1967 Dodge W200 B383, NP420/NP201 SOLD
1969 Dodge Polara 500 B383, A833 SOLD
1972 Ford F250 FE390, NP435/NP205 SOLD
1976 Chevy K20, 6.5L, NV4500/NP208 SOLD
1986 M1008 CUCV SOLD
2000 GMC C2500, TD6.5L, NV4500
2005 Chevy Silverado LS 2500HD 6.0L 4L80E/NP263
2009 Impala SS LS4 V8


RTFM... GM Parts Books, GM Schematics, GM service manuals, and GM training materials...Please include at least the year and model in your threads. It'll be easier to answer your questions.
And please let us know if and how your repairs were successful.
hatzie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2015, 10:32 AM   #5
SnowNeck
Registered User
 
SnowNeck's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 132
Re: Gas gauge problem/question

Quote:
Originally Posted by hatzie View Post
180 degrees... as in needle at roughly 3:00 on the face?

A 3:00 needle, if this is the symptom, usually means... in order of probability.
#1 the tank ground is not making a connection or is missing.
#2 the sender isn't plugged in.
#3 there's a break in the wiring between the sender and the gauge.
Thank you very much for being so helpful. And yes the needle is at the 3:00 position exactly. On my day off tomorrow I'll go through those three things and see if I can figure it out. I highly appreciate all your help sir.
__________________
1985 High Sierra step side 4x4
SnowNeck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-15-2015, 11:06 AM   #6
motornut
78K & 79C Jimmys
 
motornut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Ottawa Ont CANADA
Posts: 7,901
Re: Gas gauge problem/question

there are different depths for the the rear tank,at least what i had to order for the Jimmy
this is what I used to replace in the 79,mine was the smaller
not sure if the pickups have a "join" in the sender wire like the jimmy has an "extention" to the rear, along the frame,maybe off?
Attached Images
  
__________________
John
1978 GMCJimmy4X4-350/203
1979 GMCJimmy4X2-305/350
motornut is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
1985, gas, gauge, sending unit, tank


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:54 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com