power steering pulley doesn't line up

[Mrturner1]

Hey guys just finished a top end and painted the motor well and the engine. Also got new crank, water pump and alt pulleys in polished aluminum to match the build. Now my power steering pulley doesn't line up. It looks like it needs to come out a quarter of an inch. Are there shims for this? The crank and water pump pulleys are matching set, and I got a chrome alt with its own pulley, so this was by no means a kit with matching parts.

[Mrturner1]

There's only one bolt mounting it, the one to the water pump. So there's nothing to keep the power steering pump from rotating and sitting on the balancer either.

[Mrturner1]

After looking at the picture that pump and braket look horrible against the fresh paint and chrome....might be time for an upgrade if anybody knows what will work. Quick fix are welcome too, I'd love to be driving the truck while I get other PS parts of needed

[So.Cal.Super]

There was a double not stock pulley on mine when I bought it and it wasn't aligned. I bought the original single pulley off a board member and it fit perfect. I remember not being able to find them anywhere local. hopefully someone can chime in and correct me if i'm wrong. I thought only the original singles worked with our brackets. now you stated you changed pulleys. I wonder if that's a problem?

[kwmech]

That is for a later model long water pump set-up. I'm close by and have the assy and brackets you need


Never mind, looking at that again, you already have the long water pump

[Clavo106]

I mite have to call a vendor because I have the same issue. I got a stock 327 with 80's 305 head's with a long water pump.... need to correct this as well!

[Mrturner1]

Originally Posted by So.Cal.Super

There was a double not stock pulley on mine when I bought it and it wasn't aligned. I bought the original single pulley off a board member and it fit perfect. I remember not being able to find them anywhere local. hopefully someone can chime in and correct me if i'm wrong. I thought only the original singles worked with our brackets. now you stated you changed pulleys. I wonder if that's a problem?

I think the pulley change is definitely the problem. The PO that built the truck removed the inline 6 and the 4 speed manual trans, and then replaced those with parts from a few different vehicles. Upside is I have a corvette 4 bolt and 400 turbo trans. Downside has been little things like this during the rebuild.

[Mrturner1]

I just found a polished aluminum PS pump and bracket that mounts on lower driver side, made by March Performance. It looks great, I just wonder if it would line up with the pulleys I have now. It's $120 bucks. Maybe the best way to garauntee aligned pulleys is to get a kit.

[Grumpy old man]

Ok mr turner , what are you doing ? I thought your next addition was going to be BRAKES and SUSPENSION ? Leave the bling bling chrome and shiny parts until your done with the REAL mechanical issues ! Kids , Sheesh! Hahaha
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[Mrturner1]

Originally Posted by Grumpy old man

Ok mr turner , what are you doing ? I thought your next addition was going to be BRAKES and SUSPENSION ? Leave the bling bling chrome and shiny parts until your done with the REAL mechanical issues ! Kids , Sheesh! Hahaha
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LOL well I was thinkin if I'm gonna replace it so it works right I may as well do it the way I want it to end up. How is it that every time I start loosing track of my goal and veer off on these side streets you always catch me?! haha sensible and organized adults, sheesh!

On a serious note though, I don't understand how this ever stayed off the balancer before the rebuild. It always only had the one mounting bolt to the water pump....weird. Quick fix ideas?

PS I'm looking at Gear Vendors (rubbing hands together like I have a PLAN lol)

[Mrturner1]

Pss I've been doing the test drives without power steering, just to clarify. I wasn't TOTALLY off track seeing shiney stuff lol

[So.Cal.Super]

I would definitely clean up inspect and paint that power steering box now. Take a look at it and see if she has any leaks, as pretty as your motor is I would say now is the time to fix it before you get oil all over it.
Those gear vendors are nice, their shop is only about 10 minutes down the road for me. one day ill bolt one in lol

[Mrturner1]

Originally Posted by So.Cal.Super

I would definitely clean up inspect and paint that power steering box now. Take a look at it and see if she has any leaks, as pretty as your motor is I would say now is the time to fix it before you get oil all over it.
Those gear vendors are nice, their shop is only about 10 minutes down the road for me. one day ill bolt one in lol

The pulley doesn't line up though. If I get a power steering pump mounting bracket kit of eBay for about 40 bucks, and a single groove pulley is that going to fix my pulley alignment issue? Or do I just have the wrong pump altogether?

[Mrturner1]

If I go to replace this pump, what do I ask for? The one that came on a 70' c10 doesn't look like the one I have. Would I just get a SBC Saginaw pump?

[Grumpy old man]

Originally Posted by Mrturner1

If I go to replace this pump, what do I ask for? The one that came on a 70' c10 doesn't look like the one I have. Would I just get a SBC Saginaw pump?

Time to hit the junk yard by your house , and really all that chrome goodness your chasing requires constant cleaning especially when your cranking that engine into the stratosphere ! Even high quality belts start shedding when the pressure is on and don't over tighten them thinking it will help , they'll just die faster ! A good clean pump and bracket that fits and detailed correctly Using satin black paint always looks better than cheap chrome that starts rusting in a few months ... Remember the timing cover ?
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[Mrturner1]

Originally Posted by Grumpy old man

Time to hit the junk yard by your house , and really all that chrome goodness your chasing requires constant cleaning especially when your cranking that engine into the stratosphere ! Even high quality belts start shedding when the pressure is on and don't over tighten them thinking it will help , they'll just die faster ! A good clean pump and bracket that fits and detailed correctly Using satin black paint always looks better than cheap chrome that starts rusting in a few months ... Remember the timing cover ?
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I sure do lol

I think the problem I'm running into though, is having headers so there are no factory brackets that will work. Is that right or do you know something I don't? I was thinking just get a bracket from eBay that's made for the SBC that doesn't use the exhaust manifold for a mounting point. It's a simple little peice, a lot like the aftermarket alternator brackets actually. Then get the correct pulley for my application.

[Lattimer]

Originally Posted by Mrturner1

I sure do lol

I think the problem I'm running into though, is having headers so there are no factory brackets that will work. Is that right or do you know something I don't? I was thinking just get a bracket from eBay that's made for the SBC that doesn't use the exhaust manifold for a mounting point. It's a simple little peice, a lot like the aftermarket alternator brackets actually. Then get the correct pulley for my application.

The correct PS bracket should mount in the 2 holes in the front of the block and use 1 bolt on the motor mount. At least the 2 different ones I have mount that way.

If you don't care about it being perfectly correct to the truck, I have had very good luck with Alan Grove brackets.

Scroll down and you will find the PS brackets.
http://www.alangrovecomponents.com/S...Short_Pump.htm

[Mmorgan32]

I had a similar problem I had a random power steering pump on my truck that leaked, replaced it with what I thought was the same and It was like yours way off. I called and emailed summit a picture just like that and they got me the right pump. I went for a new one with a lifetime warranty. It was $150 but if it ever leaks I get a new one for free

[Grumpy old man]

A good idea for these old trucks is once you have all your bolt on accessories figured out buy an extra set of belts and a basic set of tools needed to change out or replace a thrown belt on the side of the road . . Nothing worse than taking the family for a cruise and having to tow it home over a belt .
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[Mrturner1]

Well I didn't want to replace anything that still works, so I'm removing the pump and giving it a good cleanup and paint to match the engine. I found a new mounting bracket that looks like it will place the pump further away from the firewall, which is what I need to make the pulleys line up. I got the correct single groove pulley, and that stuff should be here beginning of next week. Hopefully it all comes together and I can be done with everything under the hood for a while, there's a lot needs to be done for front brakes and suspension all around

[Mrturner1]

This is the style of mounting bracket I got, and the new pulley looks like this but it's a single groove

[stsalvage]

Originally Posted by Lattimer

The correct PS bracket should mount in the 2 holes in the front of the block and use 1 bolt on the motor mount. At least the 2 different ones I have mount that way.

If you don't care about it being perfectly correct to the truck, I have had very good luck with Alan Grove brackets.

Scroll down and you will find the PS brackets.
http://www.alangrovecomponents.com/S...Short_Pump.htm

your right I like that mounting system 2 brackets one is cast iron the other is a steel bracket..I look for the brackes every time i'm out and some people know this an now that bracket set up is now going for 85.00 on ebay before you could buy it for 25.00.Its one hell of a system and it works

[stsalvage]

Originally Posted by Mrturner1

There's only one bolt mounting it, the one to the water pump. So there's nothing to keep the power steering pump from rotating and sitting on the balancer either.

this is the ones they use on the NOVA Chevelle Camaro Hate that bracket.Plus if you have a motor mout go bad By by power steering hose to many sharp corners

[Lattimer]

Originally Posted by stsalvage

your right I like that mounting system 2 brackets one is cast iron the other is a steel bracket..I look for the brackes every time i'm out and some people know this an now that bracket set up is now going for 85.00 on ebay before you could buy it for 25.00.Its one hell of a system and it works

I have one on the truck and a spare on the shelf that came with another pump in the parts pile from the PO. Don't think I will let them go

[Mrturner1]

Parts came in and look great. I tried taking the pulley off the old pump and broke it...oh well, this build deserves a new pump anyway The pulley doesn't line up but it's closer than last time. I'm going to shim the mounting bracket to dial it in because it's a keyway pump and pulley, so I don't think your supposed to shim the pulley.