My 67 for 83?? Should I??

[C10hacker]

I have a decent shaped 67 that I posted on Craigslist. I was offered a pretty sick 83. Just curious what you guys think. I love the lines on mine but it needs lots of love and the 83 is almost complete minus AC needing charged lol. Check pics

[C10hacker]

Here is my 67

[C10hacker]

Heres a bether pic of the 83. Pretty sure I'm winning with the trade but thought I'd ask opinions before I said yes

[GR8-68]

What is that ? A 67 with a 69 front clip ? Looks like a decent trade for you, I would look it over real good. My question would be why do you want to trade a near complete truck for one that needs a full restoration

[Jrainman]

I am seeing equal value at this point as far as $ are concerned , and with that said a 83 would never be worth equal or more value if both trucks were at the same build stage or a finished 83 vs 67 trucks with equal parts and paint .

this is not my opinon just a reflection on todays 67-72 market value to 73-87 market value

[TheCougarine]

I'd definitely make sure to ask lots of questions and look the truck over closely. It might be a good deal or some shiny paint and wheels might be hiding a trap. I'd also assume you'll need more than a recharge on the AC. I see people say that with used cars all the time and its generally not the case. If it was as simple as a recharge to have working AC most people would have recharged it. Theres probably more wrong with the system. Just my 2 cents.

[leftybass209]

I don't know anything regarding your state laws on smog inspections and whatnot, but square bodies don't jazz me up like any earlier design. They're all over Craigslist, and if I were to want one, I'd certainly build it my own way. Pay special attention to any noises, electrical issues, and engine issues.

In my experience I've rarely seen a deal for a near complete vehicle get swapped for one that needs a lot of work, unless there was some underlying issue. More so in a dry state where rust isn't much of an issue.

Being a short fleet, you have the upper hand in this deal. Short square bodies don't have the value that your truck has. My brother bought a square for 2k, and I almost picked one up for 1500.

[ck5566]

Originally Posted by C10hacker

I have a decent shaped 67 that I posted on Craigslist. I was offered a pretty sick 83. Just curious what you guys think. I love the lines on mine but it needs lots of love and the 83 is almost complete minus AC needing charged lol. Check pics

Get on your Computer and Google that 83 and read all about it. You'll find some real interesting things about them, with that said the 80's & 90's were just getting into the Electronic this and the Electronic that age. I once was looking at a 95 Chevy Truck short fleet and what I found out about the Electronics of it was that it was Prone for electric/electronics PROBLEM'S big time. It was selling for $2300 and it looked SHARP.

Personally I'd stick with your Truck and you will be money ahead some day when you sell it. "Hypothetically" look at it this way with out it being a 67 and look at it as a truck for a truck Yours needing much more Money needed to get it the way that the other (83) looks like. Some buddies getting the shaft (probably you). Or look at it this way I will trade you my $100 bill for your $10 bill what do you say??? Deal or NO Deal.

Somebody wants something else real bad and is willing to give up what looks like a real nice Truck and by the looks of whats being traded for the trade (hidden problems might be there) I go back to my offer I trade you my $100 bill for your $10 bill. Its not real hard to figure this out. It comes down to how bad do you want the Trade! My.02 cents is your will be getting the SHAFT.

[C10hacker]

Yeah I went back and forth about the trade. I do like the 67 (yes a 69 front clip, put on before I bought it) a bit more but heres the back story.

I threw my 67 on craigslist just to see if I can make a quick buck. Ultimately the guy I purchased the truck from saw the truck and contacted me wanting to buy it back. But he wanted to give me what I bought it for and I put some money into the truck and got her going, put in modern sebring seats and purchased a new fender that will go with the truck. I told him my bottom dollar which I think is more than fair and he even admitted that with what I put in, it was fair but he couldnt fill the $$ gap.
Fast forward a few days, his "best friend" contacts me and offers up this 1983 C10 as an even trade. He tells me that he wants to surprise his friend and get the truck back for him as a birthday present, since years ago he gave him a loan for a hospital bill. He says its nice but I have yet to see it in person. I plan on seeing it later today, or tomorrow to go through it and make sure its a good deal/or at least even.

That being sad, this guy could be full of crap and trying to pull a fast one and tug on the heart strings. But I guess we'll see. Im pretty interested, I work HVAC and fairly familiar with car HVACs as well so thats almost a non-issue.

Thank you for the feedback. I'll let you guys know how it ends up. Either way, I'll still be a part of the community.

[dmartin1]

i would just finish the 67.

I can get squarebodys all day slap a cheap lowering job and paint on it. Actually doing one right now i picked up for 800$ that is clean, highly optioned fleetside.

Not so easy to find a 67 shorty. And if you do, they are usually ridiculously priced.

That 83 looks to be nice, but in the end it will problly never be worth what the 67 could be in equal condition. The squares are everywhere.

I rarely ever believe the sob story.

This is just my opinion but i would keep your truck you have now.

[dmartin1]

I am actually in az too, if i had that 83, I would try to trade for your 67 also, looks quite dry and not a rust bucket.

[ck5566]

Originally Posted by dmartin1

i would just finish the 67.

I can get squarebodys all day slap a cheap lowering job and paint on it. Actually doing one right now i picked up for 800$ that is clean, highly optioned fleetside.

Not so easy to find a 67 shorty. And if you do, they are usually ridiculously priced.

That 83 looks to be nice, but in the end it will problly never be worth what the 67 could be in equal condition. The squares are everywhere.

I rarely ever believe the sob story.

This is just my opinion but i would keep your truck you have now.

Yah 10 X's what he said

[Jarvis-69 GMC 1500CK]

I can talk with experience, you do NOT want any late 80's/any 90's GM. They are the WORST electronics.

I was in the process of restoring a 92 Cadilac De-ville, took it into a shop which does electronics (I am ok at it, but not at the level needed for such a car) and it would of been 10-15K to work out all of the little electronic problems. Now mind yea a pickup will have less electronic gizmos then the Cadilac, I have had allot of experience growing up poor, having nothing but 90's GM. They are terrrible absolutely terrible.

We had a 97 impala catch fire, a 99 Montana the ECU//coil pack went screwy, a 95 Buick regal that melted batteries (the ABS also would randomly mess up), and my first car (a 95 Cav) that emobolized itself.

I have also heard similar stories from the Pickup truck side.

This is the exact reason why i got my 69. Sure I still have wiring issues, but they are that wiring and not silly computers AND wiring!

[boraxman]

Dont do it/

[midniteblues]

Idk about az. Smog rules but here a 80's gotta pass the visual test(unless you know someone).
It can take alot of $ too make it pass.

Your 67 is so much more desirable and at this point useable as a truck.

I've had a bunch of squares in yrs. past(as drivers) but this gen gets so much more intrest by others.

My opinion keep the 67.

[CG]

No

[gable74]

Sort of sounds like you have your mind made up and are looking for a couple people to back you...so here is my opinion for what its worth.

If its a value thing, and you are purely concerned with the value of the vehicle once they are restored or partly restored........keep the 67.

If you just flat out like the look of the 83 more than the 67 (that's your right and your opinion) make the trade once you have verified the truck is as solid as the owner says it is.

It really boils down to how YOU feel about it. You are the one who will have to live with the deal. No matter what you do someone will say, "I told you so."

If it were me, no way would I do it because I do not like that body style. If you like that look though, go for it!

[Grumpy old man]

You bought the truck to flip it ? You pulled the stock bench seat to put Sebring seats in it ? I hope you saved the seat for the next owner , your a flipper so go flip it to someone who can appreciate it and your name explains it all c10hacker .

[gable74]

Originally Posted by Grumpy old man

You bought the truck to flip it ? You pulled the stock bench seat to put Sebring seats in it ? I hope you saved the seat for the next owner , your a flipper so go flip it to someone who can appreciate it and your name explains it all c10hacker .

LOL....firm but honest.

[66clow]

I'd say right now it would be a even trade. Down the road yours would be worth more. Are there any emissions issues in your state? If the engine and trans has any issues then no. I don't believe the story and think they in it together trying to make the deal. Who's name is the truck in? Sounds a little fishy. Is the title clear?

[GR8-68]

Originally Posted by Grumpy old man

You bought the truck to flip it ? You pulled the stock bench seat to put Sebring seats in it ? I hope you saved the seat for the next owner , your a flipper so go flip it to someone who can appreciate it and your name explains it all c10hacker .

Very well said..

[TwoFiftyShifter]

Originally Posted by gable74

LOL....firm but honest.

Flat out awesome. Funny too.

[57taskforce]

Not sure why all the electronics stuff is being brought up? The squares didn't start getting too complicated wiring wise until the fuel injection went in them in 87 even still they are pretty simple. Sure some of them had the electronic carbs and such but overall the early 80s are still very simple electronically. As for the original topic id keep the 67 but that's just me. I think there is a guy or two trying to pull a fast one on you with a sad story. If you really are a flipper than I suppose that's the risk you take. As said the 67 will, for the foreseeable future at least, have a higher value than a comparable condition square. In my opinion long term you only loose on this deal of you do the trade.

[toolboxchev]

Your older truck will appreciate in value more over time if you keep it nice!

[C10hacker]

Thank you guys for the input i honestly appreciate the fast responses. Unfortunately I think a select few here have the wrong impression of me due to being negligent with my 2nd reply.

Anyways, i should have been more specific and had more details but I just had pictures to go off of and a strangers word through Craigslist, and left you guys with even less information then i had. I was pretty excited to possibly have another toy to play with while building mine and jumped to the forums prematurely. Some of you gave me awesome advice that I'll take with me but it looks like it all comes down to preference.

I ended up passing on the trade, the truck was far from nearing completion, actually i cant think of any one part of the truck being complete and was probably worth about a quarter what I expected.

C10hacker is just a name, not sure why it's causing a stir but now that I'm thinking about it, it really does suite me...not because of reasons listed above. But probably for worse reasons if you keep reading but it's the direction I've decided to go with my particular build.

I did NOT purchase the truck as a flip, I've always wanted one since my grandfather had one years and years ago, but now that I have it, I've started collecting so many parts to put her back together. I've decided I'm basically building from the ground up. I might as well sell it and ultimately I'm on a search to find a clean cab with a title. And of course I kept the bench seat. I'm not an animal lol.

Some of the parts I've accumulated are as follows:

Complete chassis from rolled 2003 Yukon danalli (already have cpu flashed on 6.0l and mounts moved/welded to proper location to accept 67-72 cab and short bed fleetside)
Complete proper matching front end for 67 c10 (I was taking my 67 back to my favorite slant nose, so have fenders, hood, grill, rad support etc...)
Complete American Auto wire harness.
Some other random parts

With all that being said i do respect these trucks through all years and generations. After i purchased the truck my plans quickly changed from a mostly original restoration to a modern daily driver with just the looks of these beautiful classics. It just seems like a waste for me to chop up a perfectly good truck that someone can love and cherish it for what it is. It's a classic and deserves to be treated as such and i realized that. So when a gentleman approaches me with a story that would possibly take the truck back to its original loving/caring owner, I obviously gave him a chance to get it back, and for a second I even thought id come out the other end on top. but in the end it leaves me high and dry and I can't take the hit right now.

I'll keep her for now but still have her posted on the interwebs for a new owner. And my eyes are open and hopeful in finding a new cab and bed for my 2003/1967 Yukon c10 monstrosity. Haha