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Old 09-04-2016, 11:03 AM   #1
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Cool '98 Vortec PCM Options

Hi,

I understand this might be a very old topic, however info seems not conclusive, or there are a lot of options to the point of being confusing.

So, hope someone in this place can help. Swapped a '98 Vortec 5.7 out of a Suburban complete with transmission that looks like a 4L70E or something like that, it is a 3 piece transmission, very different from 4L60E, and it is not a 4L80E. PCM is a blackbox 16258835. No BCM is present/used on the donor Suburban.

Problem is, engine starts and shuts off after 3 seconds. The well known Passlock problem is present.

Questions are:

1. Does HP Tuners supports this PCM to remove the Passlock? Info on HP Tuners site is inconclusive. Some say these PCMs aren't supported, however HP Tuners site list the vehicle as supported. Some say a swap to '411 PCM is required some others don't. A local tuner says it can be done, however noticed he's not well aware of the blackbox type pcm issue....so what?

2. Will a '97 non passlock PCM will work with this transmission? Yes? What PCM # should I be looking for?

3. Found some small bypass circuits that claim to provide the adequate signal to the PCM and make it fire the injectors. However there are apparently two versions: a train of pulses for which this circuits work, or a serial class 2 communication scheme for which will not work. The bypass manufacturer list the vehicle as supported, but on the other hand found wiring diagram for '98 Suburbans specifying a serial class 2 comm. So will this circuits work or not? In which cases will work?

Really appreciate if someone can clarify this.

Thanks in advance,

Alfredo.

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Old 09-05-2016, 07:34 AM   #2
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Re: '98 Vortec PCM Options

Might have better luck in http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/f...play.php?f=206
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Old 09-06-2016, 12:29 PM   #3
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Re: '98 Vortec PCM Options

Check out LT1swap.com.

http://lt1swap.com/programming.htm

Also you likely have a 4L60E, the later 97 and newer ones are a newer design case with separate bellhousing and different tailshaft
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Old 09-06-2016, 01:18 PM   #4
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Re: '98 Vortec PCM Options

Most tunable/customizable? That would be the 12200411 PCM: http://www.gmtruckcentral.com/articles/12200411.html

EDIT: Missed the trans confusion. Definitely still a 4L60E, as mentioned previously in '97 the bellhousing became removable.
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Old 09-06-2016, 08:28 PM   #5
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Re: '98 Vortec PCM Options

the 4l70e was the trailblazer trans irrc. Idk why its in there.
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Old 09-07-2016, 09:01 AM   #6
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Re: '98 Vortec PCM Options

The LT1swap.com guy can reflash a black box PCM to remove the security, you just gotta mail it to him. $75 includes return shipping. No need to convert to a 411 PCM unless you plan on tuning it later on.
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