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Old 02-24-2017, 11:31 PM   #1
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Re: Did truck production numbers decrease after 1972?

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Here in Portland Oregon I see square bodies every day, 73-79, and 80 to 87's. The 67 to 72's not some much, but on sunny days they will come out...
Portland Craiglist has a bunch of square bodys, just a hand full of 67 to 72's.
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Re: Did truck production numbers decrease after 1972?

This is an example of what I normally see except the price is a little high though. https://terrehaute.craigslist.org/cto/6018192372.html

I see running and driving squarebodys listed for 800-900 all the time.
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If you can do bodywork they are cheap.

https://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/cto/5982928057.html
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Old 02-25-2017, 12:38 AM   #4
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Re: Did truck production numbers decrease after 1972?

Last one. Quad cab https://chambana.craigslist.org/cto/6018069077.html
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I knew some guys that had the same truck. I worked with the dad as a correctional officer, and 15 years later I retired him medically. Sometime in-between I worked with his sons moving furniture. Them boys sure liked the Gandja-bud.
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Re: Did truck production numbers decrease after 1972?

Like others have said, they were notorious for rust.
I bought an 86 C/20 in 1992 and the cab corners were already gone on them.
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Re: Did truck production numbers decrease after 1972?

Any and every junkyard here is loaded with square bodies, lots of them look like they were driven in and parked. Maybe 1 in 6 has a 67-72 that is a picked over shell.
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Old 02-25-2017, 03:53 PM   #8
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Any and every junkyard here is loaded with square bodies, lots of them look like they were driven in and parked. Maybe 1 in 6 has a 67-72 that is a picked over shell.
Maybe that is the answer to my original question.
I'm searching the wrong place?
If I'm looking for a square body!
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Old 02-27-2017, 10:06 AM   #9
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Re: Did truck production numbers decrease after 1972?

I love those 73/74s. They are just like the 71/72s only they look different No, I'm not kidding. I mean they are the same truck but with a body change. I actually like the deluxe 2-tone better, with that narrow molding and how it meets in the front. They still used the same names, the colors were pretty much the same, same console. They even used the same hubcaps!

I see a lot more square bodies around here. At shows I see about the same... EXCEPT, at rod runs because they stop at '72. '72 has been the cut-off for the classic thing since these trucks entered that realm early. It's like an exception was made to allow (unofficial) them in with the 47-66 crowd. Really, it was the 60-72 entering together when the whole collectible thing had been largely limited to '50s and earlier for all vehicles. They used to call the '73-ups "Plastic & Cardboard" trucks. I guess people were all focused on the new dash with more vinyl padded area and new design glovebox. Looking at them now they are as much steel as a '72. Same kind of door panels, '72s have cardboard gloveboxes and plastic gauge bezels, and the '73s are all steel behind the vinyl pad. The inner fenders are steel on the '73 and the grille is plastic on the '72. They both came with aluminum trim. They even got away from what many consider "wimpy" coil rear springs to "all" leaf springs and designed to carry double fuel capacity. Not to mention a little old truck name "Big Dooley" coming to town along with "3+3". Not sure if "BonusCab" came along as an afterthought or was there all along.
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Re: Did truck production numbers decrease after 1972?

Are you saying, rear coil springs were not available after 1972?
That's weird.
That us what makes the 67-72 ride so much smoother
Work fine until you need to haul a real heavy load.
Which Most people rarely do.

So a 73up Shortbed only had leaf springs
Seams like a rougher ride and I've heard it is harder to lower trucks with leaf?
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Re: Did truck production numbers decrease after 1972?

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Are you saying, rear coil springs were not available after 1972?
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So a 73up Shortbed only had leaf springs
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Seams like a rougher ride and I've heard it is harder to lower trucks with leaf?
No. You can remove leafs, re-arch leafs, extend the shackles, extend the hanger, flip the axle on top of the spring, or relocate the hangers on the frame rails.

(or all of the above, I suppose).

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Re: Did truck production numbers decrease after 1972?

And how is the ride?
On any 67-72 trucks I have had, it was always softer(more car like) with coils
And a bit more rigid (like a truck) with leaf (well I guess they are trucks)

I'm not suggesting one is better than the other
Just curious
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And how is the ride?
On any 67-72 trucks I have had, it was always softer(more car like) with coils
And a bit more rigid (like a truck) with leaf (well I guess they are trucks)

I'm not suggesting one is better than the other
Just curious
You can tune it (by adding or removing leafs) to whatever you want/need.

My '87 pickup set the standard that I compare all other vehicles to (as far as ride and controls: throttle feel, brake pedal travel/effort and steering feel).

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I love those 73/74s. They are just like the 71/72s only they look different No, I'm not kidding. I mean they are the same truck but with a body change. I actually like the deluxe 2-tone better, with that narrow molding and how it meets in the front. They still used the same names, the colors were pretty much the same, same console. They even used the same hubcaps!

I see a lot more square bodies around here. At shows I see about the same... EXCEPT, at rod runs because they stop at '72. '72 has been the cut-off for the classic thing since these trucks entered that realm early. It's like an exception was made to allow (unofficial) them in with the 47-66 crowd. Really, it was the 60-72 entering together when the whole collectible thing had been largely limited to '50s and earlier for all vehicles. They used to call the '73-ups "Plastic & Cardboard" trucks. I guess people were all focused on the new dash with more vinyl padded area and new design glovebox. Looking at them now they are as much steel as a '72. Same kind of door panels, '72s have cardboard gloveboxes and plastic gauge bezels, and the '73s are all steel behind the vinyl pad. The inner fenders are steel on the '73 and the grille is plastic on the '72. They both came with aluminum trim. They even got away from what many consider "wimpy" coil rear springs to "all" leaf springs and designed to carry double fuel capacity. Not to mention a little old truck name "Big Dooley" coming to town along with "3+3". Not sure if "BonusCab" came along as an afterthought or was there all along.
I have yet to see a '73-74 trucks from the factory with long arms/coils..
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I have yet to see a '73-74 trucks from the factory with long arms/coils..
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Are you saying, rear coil springs were not available after 1972?
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So a 73up Shortbed only had leaf springs
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Re: Did truck production numbers decrease after 1972?

They even got away from what many consider "wimpy" coil rear springs to "all" leaf springs.[/QUOTE]

special-k is stating they got away from rear coils as in 67-72...and went to "all" leafs with what I believe to mean 73-up,never mentioned coil spring suspension in 73 up.
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They even got away from what many consider "wimpy" coil rear springs to "all" leaf springs.
special-k is stating they got away from rear coils as in 67-72...and went to "all" leafs with what I believe to mean 73-up,never mentioned coil spring suspension in 73 up.[/QUOTE]

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I love those 73/74s. They are just like the 71/72s only they look different No, I'm not kidding. I mean they are the same truck but with a body change.


I don't know man.. that statement would lead one to believe same truck as same truck..
67-72 c-10's 1/2 ton was coil..
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So, where are the pictures of this truck?
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Re: Did truck production numbers decrease after 1972?

What truck?
I thought you reviewed every post in every thread?
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What truck?
I thought you reviewed every post in every thread?
The '74 Cheyenne Super you recently picked up.
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Re: Did truck production numbers decrease after 1972?

In the 73-87 forum
Under
'Post your 73 or 74 Cheyenne Super'

I still don't know how to attach a link to another thread

Since putting it on there, it has seen very little activity
Nothing like the 71-71 Cheyenne Super thread here
Hence my question about production numbers

To me it just feels like 71-72 were great years for these high optioned trucks
And less so in 73-74
I just don't see them out there as much??
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The avalanche is a very popular truck in our area there's hundreds if not more running around. Got friends with them and some are on there third one didn't pay a lot of attention to how there made just assumed they were a pickup GM modified. Was told just last week that they are coil rear spring. News to me but if this is so that would explain the ride I guess.
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Unless you read the whole post. Maybe if your weren't so focused on shooting holes in what I post it would help you understand what I put down.

Listen, a little advise from a guy who has been here a while. People come here and say this place is friendly and helpful all the time. I'm one of those friendly helpful members. I say things to cheer people up and I say things to help people learn. I don't come here to post BS to mislead people or argue about my replies. I have been wrong before, corrected, and I learn. You are new here and that's why I'm suggesting you learn to let things go a little. I don't move on as quickly as some, but if one come back/clarification gets me nowhere I move on. We look worse coming back than walking away. People forget the things we drop and move on with, for the most part, and remember the times a member kept coming back no matter what. This is not a win/lose situation, so let it go. I have nothing against you and nothing to prove. Enjoy
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Unless you read the whole post. Maybe if your weren't so focused on shooting holes in what I post it would help you understand what I put down.

Listen, a little advise from a guy who has been here a while. People come here and say this place is friendly and helpful all the time. I'm one of those friendly helpful members. I say things to cheer people up and I say things to help people learn. I don't come here to post BS to mislead people or argue about my replies. I have been wrong before, corrected, and I learn. You are new here and that's why I'm suggesting you learn to let things go a little. I don't move on as quickly as some, but if one come back/clarification gets me nowhere I move on. We look worse coming back than walking away. People forget the things we drop and move on with, for the most part, and remember the times a member kept coming back no matter what. This is not a win/lose situation, so let it go. I have nothing against you and nothing to prove. Enjoy
Wasn't a dig.. Don't know why you think it was..

I find it odd.. (example)that if I claimed I had x year 427 cid truck.. with doc's from yenko..
I'd get jumped all over cause they never made it that way..
But if I point out that the 73-74 are not the same other than a body change. you take offence...and see it as a personal gab..
I get it. if you post it, even if it's incorrect. it is law..
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