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Old 07-04-2017, 11:04 AM   #1
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Holley carb question

I recently installed a Holley 3310 750cfm carb on the 300hp 350 ci motor in my 71c10. its jetted 72 in the primaries and 74 in the secondaries. I am experiencing stalling at low rpms, ex. slowing down for a turn or coming to a stop. I recently resealed the manifold due to oil leak. I have a rough idle so I will checking for a vacuum leak at the manifold. Any suggestions on a starting point.
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Old 07-04-2017, 11:15 AM   #2
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Re: Holley carb question

Check your timing also.
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Old 07-04-2017, 11:38 AM   #3
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Dizzy is set at 12 BTDC on initial timing. I was pulling 12 in of vacuum @ 850 - 900 rpm. anything less than that and it would stall.
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Old 07-04-2017, 11:41 AM   #4
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At what rpm did you set that 12 degrees initial timing?
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Old 07-04-2017, 11:42 AM   #5
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1000 rpm
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Old 07-04-2017, 11:56 AM   #6
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Re: Holley carb question

So that means your 12 degrees could be actually closer to 4 to 6 degrees.
At that rpm you're well into the mechanical timing in the distributor. It usually starts kicking in at about 850.
You need to get your idle down to at least 750 rpm to get an accurate reading.
Bump your timing up 8 degrees and then slow the idle down on the carb. Fine tune from there adding more timing and slowing down the idle until you have it idling around 750 rpm.

Curious what intake you have?
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Old 07-04-2017, 11:58 AM   #7
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ok. need to check for vacuum leaks first to solve problem of surging
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Old 07-04-2017, 12:00 PM   #8
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Will motor increase rpm if I spray brake cleaner around edges of manifold while running looking for vacuum leak.
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Old 07-04-2017, 12:11 PM   #9
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Will motor increase rpm if I spray brake cleaner around edges of manifold while running looking for vacuum leak.
It should.
Your surging might not be from anything other than no initial timing and your primary throttle cranked open in order to idle and idling on the power circuit.
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Old 07-04-2017, 12:25 PM   #10
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would improper throttle linkage adjustment be a contributing factor to the stalling?
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Maybe!
What would you call improper?
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Old 07-04-2017, 01:09 PM   #12
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allowing the venturis to complete close blocking airflow
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Old 07-04-2017, 01:16 PM   #13
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Re: Holley carb question

Pretty big carb for a lower performance 350. The 3310 comes with a really heavy vac secondary spring (black one) right out of the box. You will need to switch to a purple or yellow spring. You will also want to step down your primary jets as well. Can't remember off the top of my head what they come with as far as pump squirters go. But you'll need to probably change that as well. How do your spark plugs look? Black and wet?

A 3310 isn't even working until over 3,000 RPM's in most applications.

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Old 07-04-2017, 01:19 PM   #14
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Re: Holley carb question

Primary jets are 72's. I cant remember what spring is in the vac. secondary. haven't checked the plugs yet
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Old 07-04-2017, 01:22 PM   #15
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Try 68's up front. The metering plate in the rear is fixed to flow, I believe, like 72 jets.

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Old 07-04-2017, 01:25 PM   #16
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allowing the venturis to complete close blocking airflow
That's normal and why you have two circuits in the carb. Idle and power circuit.

Can you adjust either mix screw in all the way without the motor quitting?
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Old 07-04-2017, 03:06 PM   #18
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just checked metering screws. I can screw them all the way in without motor stalling. I did discover vacuum leaks at base of carb and manifold. Back to square one.
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just checked metering screws. I can screw them all the way in without motor stalling. I did discover vacuum leaks at base of carb and manifold. Back to square one.
THat tells you that you're idling on the power circuit.

What's your motor set up like?
What intake? What cam? What headers?
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Old 07-04-2017, 03:34 PM   #20
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Edelbrock RPM, 1 5/8 long tube headers, GM .450 int. / .460 cam, 222 dur. on both intake and exhaust @ .050. Iron heads
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Re: Holley carb question

Your basic 290 hp crate.
No compression, poor heads, too much cam.
But tuneable.
Fix your vac leaks and then put some timing in it and adjust your carb.
Here's a link on timing.
http://www.badasscars.com/index.cfm/...d=76/prd76.htm

Did the intake come with the motor or did you put it on?
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Old 07-04-2017, 04:01 PM   #22
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Re: Holley carb question

Sounds to me like a vacuum leak that has forced you to open the idle speed screw far enough that the primary blades have uncovered the transfer slots, which means your carb is actually in between states, operating on the transition circuit, which you can tell because the mixture screws don't function.
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Sounds to me like a vacuum leak that has forced you to open the idle speed screw far enough that the primary blades have uncovered the transfer slots, which means your carb is actually in between states, operating on the transition circuit, which you can tell because the mixture screws don't function.
Agree with that. How about float levels? Stalling in turns and stopping could be a high float on one or both.
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Old 07-08-2017, 09:32 AM   #25
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Found the problem. It wasn't the intake or the carb base vacuum leak. The Holley carb has a crack in the base. I installed my old Edelbrock and truck runs like normal.
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