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Old 12-06-2019, 07:08 PM   #1
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Re: Do people like the old truck manual transmissions?

I'm considering adding one of these:
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It would add overdrive, and allow you to split 3rd and 4th, and unlike the gear vendors, it goes in front of the trans, so it will work in 4wd.

Bonus for adding another stick. I figure it will blow the minds of those that barely know what a manual trans is.
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Old 12-04-2019, 12:15 PM   #2
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I prefer a Manual Transmission. There is so much less to go wrong, when you KNOW how to properly use a clutch and select the right gear(s) for traffic conditions.
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Old 12-04-2019, 01:35 PM   #3
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I am a personal fan of the 700r4
But the other option if you want to stay with a stick is th NP a833
It's a 4 spd overdrive manual with the same ratio's as the 700r4
I got mine out of an 80s pickup
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I have an NV4500 in my 93 and I drive it most days. The hydro clutch makes it great, a Z-bar type linkage would probably make it not so fun.
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Almost done with the swap. The traffic here is just too bad and being an old guy I like the auto trans. Hopefully, it will work out.If anybody needs the old trans let me know.
Hope to be driving it friday.
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Old 12-05-2019, 10:26 AM   #6
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When I was in school(2000s) my work truck was a retired fire truck. It was a 71K20 with a 465. My personal driver was a 64 C20 with a 420. I had a 73 GMC with a th350 that I swapped in a 465 within a month of getting the truck. Now I have a 65 C30 with a 420 that I would never swap. I may add a gear vendors if I ever get the money. I wouldn’t trade a truck trans for any auto,EVER. I love the way they drive, they’re easy to shift without the clutch and they’re bulletproof.
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I have posted this before and it is an easy and cheap swap if you already have a factory 4 speed. I thought this would be a good thread to post the link in.

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I love them. It's part of the old truck time machine feeling I get when I drive them, especially my 3ott 67, they actually calm me down when I drive.
All my trucks are manual shift, I stopped giving a shiz about the guy behind me long ago. Not saying I'm
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Keep the trans and buy a Toyota Corolla for the traffic.
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I'm considering adding one of these:
https://www.advanceadapters.com/cate...-splitter/236/

It would add overdrive, and allow you to split 3rd and 4th, and unlike the gear vendors, it goes in front of the trans, so it will work in 4wd.

Bonus for adding another stick. I figure it will blow the minds of those that barely know what a manual trans is.
I think that that is pretty cool, but not good for bumper to bumper traffic.

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Keep the trans and buy a Toyota Corolla for the traffic.
And that is just what I did, though the '68 Skylark GS that I replaced the Corolla with had an automatic. I weighed out the cost and effort for putting AC in the Skylark, plus putting an interior and body work and paint, and it turned into a better deal to buy a new econobox. I've had that thing for 15 years now. It has 221k miles on it, and the only thing wrong with it is that the paint is shot because I was out of town on business at Cape Canaveral for 2 -1/2 years and the family never washed it or waxed it while I was gone.
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Old 12-07-2019, 07:15 AM   #12
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I haven't worked in suburban Montgomery County, drive on I-270, I-495, or anywhere near Washington, DC. I used to and I did it in manual trucks. Heavy work trucks. These days you hit bumper to bumper on I-70 east of the US40 split and MD32 heading south. I drive an automatic and I talk back roads to avoid those messes. Coming up I-95 from the south I get off at Fredericksburg, VA and cut cross country up US17 to US15. Now development is congesting in on that. The good thing is I haven't been on that route in a decade. Certainly not a daily concern.

It's true these days I avoid the traffic mess areas as much as possible. Basically it does not exist in my live, now. I am all about the grey areas and find black & white either/or mentality to be amusingly close minded and blind. That's why I had to laugh at "manuals have no place". I would never surrender myself to this pure hell I see described by those who deal with this daily. I would move or find a job at least pay that allowed me to avoid it. I've always avoided it when possible. Manuals quickly find their place in this modern world once snow falls

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I find it very said that the manual transmission in general is a thing of the past , I learned how to drive on a 3 on the tree MJ 2a when I was 10 years old , , today most people cant even drive Manual , every time I have to have my car valet parked I always have to wait till the one guy that knows how to drive a manua andl if they have one ,if not they just point and say park it right there .
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At the moment I’m putting together an injected 4.0 jeep in-line six swap in my completely stock and original ‘50 3600. I decided to stay with the OE column shift SM 318 three speed. A swap bell housing is available in the aftermarket. The transmission will be a ‘modern’ SM318 3 speed overdrive from a ‘63 Impala. A couple of my car guy friends think it is ludicrous I would upgrade the engine and nothing else on the truck. That old column shift three speed is such a huge piece of the personality of the truck, I just can’t let it go. The slower shifting and the gear whine, I just can’t wrap my head around driving one of these old trucks without it. Even the nonsyncro first gear, once you’ve figured out your timing with double clutching, it’s fun to master that shifting smoothly without a crunch, part of the experience too! Admittedly this will just be a fun truck and likely never see any real traffic, but even if I did it would be OK, I’ll just be the one hanging back creeping along slowly .....

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I find it very said that the manual transmission in general is a thing of the past , I learned how to drive on a 3 on the tree MJ 2a when I was 10 years old , , today most people cant even drive Manual , every time I have to have my car valet parked I always have to wait till the one guy that knows how to drive a manua andl if they have one ,if not they just point and say park it right there .
LoL, that just reminded me of a time I took a date out in my '68 3ott for some swanky eats and parking was valet only..

awkward stares from the guys at the drop off looking at shifter and clutch so they asked me to park it
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I haven't worked in suburban Montgomery County, drive on I-270, I-495, or anywhere near Washington, DC. I used to and I did it in manual trucks. Heavy work trucks. These days you hit bumper to bumper on I-70 east of the US40 split and MD32 heading south. I drive an automatic and I talk back roads to avoid those messes. Coming up I-95 from the south I get off at Fredericksburg, VA and cut cross country up US17 to US15. Now development is congesting in on that. The good thing is I haven't been on that route in a decade. Certainly not a daily concern.

It's true these days I avoid the traffic mess areas as much as possible. Basically it does not exist in my live, now. I am all about the grey areas and find black & white either/or mentality to be amusingly close minded and blind. That's why I had to laugh at "manuals have no place". I would never surrender myself to this pure hell I see described by those who deal with this daily. I would move or find a job at least pay that allowed me to avoid it. I've always avoided it when possible. Manuals quickly find their place in this modern world once snow falls

Beautiful Harpers Ferry, West Virginia where the Shenandoah and Potomac Rivers meet and cut through the Blue Ridge Mountains and hikers on the Maine to Georgia Appalachian Trail can hike into a restaurant for a warm prepared meal at a table. A place away from the hustle and bustle of Washington, DC and Baltimore, MD where people go to get away. A place to camp, kayak, canoe, tube, take a raft trip, or try your hand at small mouth bass fishing.
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See that bridge? That's US340. It crosses the Potomac once and the Shenandoah once where it squeezes down to two lanes carved into the mountainside with the river dropped down on the other side. I call it "The Narrows". It is the 'only' route through that area for many miles around. You go from Maryland to Virginia to West Virginia in a couple miles. On the stretch between the bridges there are two roads to access those areas of VA and WVA. To make matters worse there is a traffic light at one. And, the Charles Town area has seen major housing development. M-F you have terrible backups for many miles through the whole area from commuter traffic and on the weekends it's just as bad from pleasure seekers. I'm looking to buy out that way on the Maryland side where I can get off US340 before approaching the river
It's definitely worse on the weekends, and in the summer if you're trying to get to Frederick MD the best way to do it is either take 340 to 9 into VA and turn left at the light to circle back through neersville. Or take 340 into Martinsburg hop on 81 to 70 and over. Trying to turn onto or off of chestnuts Hill road between the bridges sucks as well. All this being said if you don't mind slowing down and sitting in traffic listening to music the scenery is great and in the fall when all the leaves are changing and the rivers just starting to cool off there's no better time to roll with the windows down and just cruise. As for driving with a manual all the vehicles I've driven that have had them have been fine in stop and go traffic. My favorite though has been my buddies dodge (as I'm looking at an nv4500 and he said I could get a feel for how they shift) where I got stuck on the Maryland side of the bridges. Didn't have a problem with that truck or any other in stop and go traffic.
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It's definitely worse on the weekends, and in the summer if you're trying to get to Frederick MD the best way to do it is either take 340 to 9 into VA and turn left at the light to circle back through neersville. Or take 340 into Martinsburg hop on 81 to 70 and over. Trying to turn onto or off of chestnuts Hill road between the bridges sucks as well. All this being said if you don't mind slowing down and sitting in traffic listening to music the scenery is great and in the fall when all the leaves are changing and the rivers just starting to cool off there's no better time to roll with the windows down and just cruise. As for driving with a manual all the vehicles I've driven that have had them have been fine in stop and go traffic. My favorite though has been my buddies dodge (as I'm looking at an nv4500 and he said I could get a feel for how they shift) where I got stuck on the Maryland side of the bridges. Didn't have a problem with that truck or any other in stop and go traffic.
Neersville.... definitely not something I ever thought I’d see on an online forum from anyone other than myself. Called that place home for nearly 20. I grew up on the 671 side of Sagle Rd. My grandfather was responsible for changing the name of the Road from Neersville Rd to Sagle Rd after the family that owned and farmed a big plot if land that he later partially purchased. It will always be home. My mom lives in Kearneysville now but my dad still lives up off of route 9 on Shady Lane just passed Sweet Springs Store right before you cross in to WV. I miss that place a lot. although, I think I’ll keep my guns. It’s sad to see some of the changes going on in the northern part of the state.
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Neersville.... definitely not something I ever thought I’d see on an online forum from anyone other than myself. Called that place home for nearly 20. I grew up on the 671 side of Sagle Rd. My grandfather was responsible for changing the name of the Road from Neersville Rd to Sagle Rd after the family that owned and farmed a big plot if land that he later partially purchased. It will always be home. My mom lives in Kearneysville now but my dad still lives up off of route 9 on Shady Lane just passed Sweet Springs Store right before you cross in to WV. I miss that place a lot. although, I think I’ll keep my guns. It’s sad to see some of the changes going on in the northern part of the state.
Hey I know where that place is!!!
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I gotta admit, that 700R4 trans is a joy to drive. The truck is so much nicer now and I find I drive it more. I still have the old trans, clutch, flywheel, bell housing, and crossmember if anybody needs it. But Im sold on the auto.
I also did a factory tilt column from Randy here on this forum and it is really nice.
The only bad side of the whole project is that since the truck is so nice to drive I am already planning on new carpet and fixing up the interior.
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I have been driving with the SM465 for 39 years and in 4 trucks.I wouldn't look at anything else. That 3to4 does have quite a spread But I just put in new heads 72cc and dual exhaust and a moderate cam that makes a big difference.Lots more torque in the lower RPMs in 4th. Very driveable. K20,86 body,74frame and 84 running gear.Perfect set up. And 13.5 MPG.
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Man, just reading this makes me want to move back to Wyoming.
And have another beer!!
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Have one in my '67 stepper. Love it. Different mentality in driving, and I don't do traffic around here very often. Now if my knees would just hold up another few years, I'd be set for life.
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Its all I had for a lot of years. My knees and I grew weary of clutching and shifting. But now I wish I had a truck with that set up. Wouldn't be an every day driver, and my grand daughter could learn to drive a real clutch/4-sp set up.
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My two cents.... I've driven manual cars for decades, Hondas and MINI Coopers. But when I got my current car, decided the CVT would be fine, and for uphill traffic jams it's great. My previous pickup was a 350 auto, this '68 has the 4-on-the-floor, and I'm digging it, have used granny many times. It's also a good theft deterrent.
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