The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > 47 - Current classic GM Trucks > The 99-06 GMT800 Chevy and GMC Message Board

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-03-2021, 01:57 PM   #1
Mr_Rich
Registered User
 
Mr_Rich's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Yucaipa, Calif.
Posts: 788
'03 Gauge cluster replacement

I tried to do a search on this subject and Google has too much internet "noise" and ads to sort through these days. My friend's '03 2500HD with 6.0L/ Allison trans has failing gauges. I thought maybe I'd try to chase down this problem and ask on this forum. If I find a replacement are they, "plug and play" or does the odometer have to be programmed independent of the ECM? Is there anything else to be aware of?
__________________
1989 K1500 Chev. EC
Original owner; some of the aftermarket parts I've installed are Borla headers, Hypertech chip, Edelbrock water pump, and a Stillen rear disc brake conversion kit.
2009 Hummer H3T 3.7L 5M (sold)
1997 K2500 Chev. EC 7.4L/ 4L80E
2018 Dodge Ram 2500 HD R/C
Mr_Rich is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2021, 02:41 PM   #2
EVRLET
Registered User
 
EVRLET's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Las Vegas NV
Posts: 369
Re: '03 Gauge cluster replacement

Plug and play but the odometer won’t match. You can repair the existing cluster or send the replacement off to have the odometer match.
__________________
Customization is what you want it to look like -- not what other people think it should look like
EVRLET is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2021, 11:56 AM   #3
hatzie
Moderator
 
hatzie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Wentworth, NH
Posts: 4,975
Re: '03 Gauge cluster replacement

I'm assuming the gauges are getting choppy and the panel lamps are burning out. That's common.
You can get the stepper motors and illumination bulbs in that cluster replaced for a pretty reasonable price.

The mileage and total hours run are stored in the instrument cluster on the T800 trucks.
__________________
1959 M35A2 LDT465-1D SOLD
1967 Dodge W200 B383, NP420/NP201 SOLD
1969 Dodge Polara 500 B383, A833 SOLD
1972 Ford F250 FE390, NP435/NP205 SOLD
1976 Chevy K20, 6.5L, NV4500/NP208 SOLD
1986 M1008 CUCV SOLD
2000 GMC C2500, TD6.5L, NV4500
2005 Chevy Silverado LS 2500HD 6.0L 4L80E/NP263
2009 Impala SS LS4 V8


RTFM... GM Parts Books, GM Schematics, GM service manuals, and GM training materials...Please include at least the year and model in your threads. It'll be easier to answer your questions.
And please let us know if and how your repairs were successful.
hatzie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2021, 02:39 PM   #4
Mr_Rich
Registered User
 
Mr_Rich's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Yucaipa, Calif.
Posts: 788
Re: '03 Gauge cluster replacement

This is good info to know. Thanks for the responses! I know my friend's truck gets intermittent/ transient CEL's that he's ignoring. He's living with the problem and always seems to go the most inexpensive route on truck repairs.
__________________
1989 K1500 Chev. EC
Original owner; some of the aftermarket parts I've installed are Borla headers, Hypertech chip, Edelbrock water pump, and a Stillen rear disc brake conversion kit.
2009 Hummer H3T 3.7L 5M (sold)
1997 K2500 Chev. EC 7.4L/ 4L80E
2018 Dodge Ram 2500 HD R/C
Mr_Rich is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2021, 08:47 AM   #5
hatzie
Moderator
 
hatzie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Wentworth, NH
Posts: 4,975
Re: '03 Gauge cluster replacement

The other failure point in several interior components on the T800 chassis trucks are the SMT resistors low lead solder cracking.

There are blocks of them in these instrument panels. Usually this is isolated to the resistors. Probably from thermal cycling. I've seen videos of people re-flowing the harness jack and Vaccu-Fluorescent display (VFD) joints. I wouldn't bother with those if you can't see round cracks in the solder joints under a magnifier. Unlike the compass/temp mirrors, I've never seen a cluster with the harness jack or VFD connections showing cracks under the microscope. It's not impossible but I have yet to see one with damage at those points.

Here's my post of pictures from my microscope looking at some cracked solder joints on a GM Gentex compass/temp/onstar mirrors. The resistors will be similar on your board. They're tiny little SMT pieces and you will not be able to see the cracks with your naked eyes. You can see the edge of the old fashioned through hole resistor in the microscope picture of the cracked SMT resistor. The SMT and through hole resistor are in the top centre of the board picture.



Here's the whole thread with more pictures.
https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...84#post8870184
__________________
1959 M35A2 LDT465-1D SOLD
1967 Dodge W200 B383, NP420/NP201 SOLD
1969 Dodge Polara 500 B383, A833 SOLD
1972 Ford F250 FE390, NP435/NP205 SOLD
1976 Chevy K20, 6.5L, NV4500/NP208 SOLD
1986 M1008 CUCV SOLD
2000 GMC C2500, TD6.5L, NV4500
2005 Chevy Silverado LS 2500HD 6.0L 4L80E/NP263
2009 Impala SS LS4 V8


RTFM... GM Parts Books, GM Schematics, GM service manuals, and GM training materials...Please include at least the year and model in your threads. It'll be easier to answer your questions.
And please let us know if and how your repairs were successful.

Last edited by hatzie; 03-06-2021 at 09:01 AM.
hatzie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2021, 09:36 PM   #6
86454k30
Registered User
 
86454k30's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Spokane, Washington
Posts: 596
Re: '03 Gauge cluster replacement

I have had good luck with purchasing 2 from these folks.

https://www.fixmygauges.com/oem-stock-clusters.html
86454k30 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2021, 10:11 PM   #7
Boog
laying low
 
Boog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Searcy, Ark. USA
Posts: 13,433
Re: '03 Gauge cluster replacement

My daughter googled and found a service in Missouri who repairs these clusters so they sent hers in and received it back in about a week. The only thing wrong with hers was most all the bulbs were burned out and they are soldered in. So for the sum of about $67 she got bulbs replaced and her temp gauge no longer worked. Later I removed the cluster and found cracked solder on that gauge so I fixed it myself. All good.
__________________
Boog
69 Chevy stepside, 358/T350, 4.11 posi, 4.5/4 drop, rallys, poboy driver
primer is finer
91 Chevy sportside, Tahoe, Yukon & GMC Crewcab All GM..'nuff said.

I stand for the flag and kneel at the cross
Boog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2021, 07:01 PM   #8
hatzie
Moderator
 
hatzie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Wentworth, NH
Posts: 4,975
Re: '03 Gauge cluster replacement

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boog View Post
My daughter googled and found a service in Missouri who repairs these clusters so they sent hers in and received it back in about a week. The only thing wrong with hers was most all the bulbs were burned out and they are soldered in. So for the sum of about $67 she got bulbs replaced and her temp gauge no longer worked. Later I removed the cluster and found cracked solder on that gauge so I fixed it myself. All good.
Lead helps a great deal when touching up these cracking solder joints. Kester 0.031 60:40 Sn:Pb rosin core electronics solder and Amtech nc-559-v2 tacky flux.

You also want to use care to not overheat the board. The Import OLED stations that use the Hakko T12 tips are inexpensive nice entry level solder stations with fast warmup and great temperature control for a lot less than my Weller.

There are several groups of SMT resistors on these clusters that cause intermittent gauges. You want to look them over and touch them up
__________________
1959 M35A2 LDT465-1D SOLD
1967 Dodge W200 B383, NP420/NP201 SOLD
1969 Dodge Polara 500 B383, A833 SOLD
1972 Ford F250 FE390, NP435/NP205 SOLD
1976 Chevy K20, 6.5L, NV4500/NP208 SOLD
1986 M1008 CUCV SOLD
2000 GMC C2500, TD6.5L, NV4500
2005 Chevy Silverado LS 2500HD 6.0L 4L80E/NP263
2009 Impala SS LS4 V8


RTFM... GM Parts Books, GM Schematics, GM service manuals, and GM training materials...Please include at least the year and model in your threads. It'll be easier to answer your questions.
And please let us know if and how your repairs were successful.
hatzie is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:03 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com