1350 Drive Shaft

[Orange Crate]

Looking for a 1350 CV style front DS. What have you ordered? Driveshaftsuperstore seems to be a scam site.

[b454rat]

Ford used one in the Stupiduty's, 2002-ish, need a flange, not hard to get. I need one too actually...

[kwmech]

https://www.driveshaftparts.com/

[Orange Crate]

Originally Posted by kwmech

https://www.driveshaftparts.com/

So you bought a drive shaft from these people?

[kwmech]

Originally Posted by Orange Crate

So you bought a drive shaft from these people?

No, but I have purchased parts from them to make what I have needed. If you are looking for a complete you can try this company, they can make a complete for you. I got a complete shaft that I could lube for my Subaru from them

https://www.powertrainindustries.com/products.htm

[Richard]

Originally Posted by Orange Crate

Looking for a 1350 CV style front DS. What have you ordered? Driveshaftsuperstore seems to be a scam site.

For a stock type shaft these guys will most likely build what you need and ship within 24 hours reasonable pricing https://4xshaft.com/ I was told that. Used Carolina Driveline instead as they offered to do some alterations for me. I got the shafts ordered, took a month and they did not do the alterations I asked for. Had to do the alteration myself and additionally the shafts I received are to short and I will need to re-tube them. I provided extensive measurements. Will use Tom woods next time.

[Orange Crate]

Originally Posted by kwmech

No, but I have purchased parts from them to make what I have needed. If you are looking for a complete you can try this company, they can make a complete for you. I got a complete shaft that I could lube for my Subaru from them

https://www.powertrainindustries.com/products.htm

Thanks. I see that they provide stock shafts. A 1350 CV was never offered for our trucks as far as I can tell.

[Orange Crate]

Originally Posted by Richard

For a stock type shaft these guys will most likely build what you need and ship within 24 hours reasonable pricing https://4xshaft.com/ I was told that. Used Carolina Driveline instead as they offered to do some alterations for me. I got the shafts ordered, took a month and they did not do the alterations I asked for. Had to do the alteration myself and additionally the shafts I received are to short and I will need to re-tube them. I provided extensive measurements. Will use Tom woods next time.

Yes, Tom's is moving to the top of the list so far.

[kwmech]

Numerous places you can go for a custom build if you want to pay additional money for shipping. Any D/L shop local to you can do the build, doesn't have to be somebody famous that has a large marketing budget

[Orange Crate]

Originally Posted by kwmech

Numerous places you can go for a custom build if you want to pay additional money for shipping. Any D/L shop local to you can do the build, doesn't have to be somebody famous that has a large marketing budget

There are other reasons to use a well known name when ordering something. Usually a big name means that they are doing something right which can be quality and good customer service. Some want reliability, durability ect.. and don't want to do a job more than once ect...
On this particular subject I absolutely do not want a drive line failure absolutely. Especially on the front D/S. it is just below the shift linkage for the T-case and if that is taken out by a busted (budget) shaft you are REALLY "F'd" when off road. I was off road and ran into a "square" that had broken his NP205. I dove under it to see the damage because I couldn't believe it broke. Sure as Ssss the box was busted in half. I asked what happened and he said the driveshaft failed, dropped down, and pole vaulted the truck. The front D/S really needs to be durable, I mean really stout. Your "fuse" should probably be out at the hub, its hard to say where you want something to break (NOT in the back country! if you have a choice!)

[b454rat]

Not sure if High Angle Driveline is still around, that's bout the best you can get...

[Richard]

Originally Posted by b454rat

Not sure if High Angle Driveline is still around, that's bout the best you can get...

Not in my experience https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=844430

[kwmech]

I know Jesse personally and I don't know what's going on with him lately. The fire did have an impact on him, but he has a new building and shop. I'll be up there in a couple of weeks and see if I can find anything out. His dad has a driveline shop also on the other side of town that he is still trying to get open from the fire. Vern is in his 80s though so he moves a little slower and is trying to do everything himself inside the building

[Richard]

Originally Posted by kwmech

I know Jesse personally and I don't know what's going on with him lately. The fire did have an impact on him, but he has a new building and shop. I'll be up there in a couple of weeks and see if I can find anything out. His dad has a driveline shop also on the other side of town that he is still trying to get open from the fire. Vern is in his 80s though so he moves a little slower and is trying to do everything himself inside the building

Do not want to bash anybody. But if I can prevent someone from going through what I did, I will. I only called him when the deadlines he set were up.
When he stopped responding, I called from my friends phone and he messaged back. A clear sign I was being ignored and I started the chargeback. His prices are double what others charge, I was willing to pay it for what was supposed to be a unique product. If he does not supply the parts he sells and takes money for. He is a thief.
Really, I am disappointed to not use his product in my build. Seeing him in all the magazines I read in the past. I had his company up there with Deaver Spring and King Shocks, both used on my truck. Obviously, I put him on to high of a pedestal.

[b454rat]

I haven't talked to him in over 10 years. He was gonna move to my area, so we were BS'n bout that. I used to go to Pirate4x4 ALL the time, now it pretty much sucks. But he used to be over there, and seemed like a stand up guy with more than a stand up product. Guess things change.....Well, Tom Woods? He still doing driveshafts??

[cadillac_al]

It's nice to have info on poor service to save other people wasting time and money. The last time I had a driveshaft made up locally it was done in a few days.

[litebulblsc]

I ordered front and rear driveshaft from Tom Woods and had no issues. I got a regular 1350 rear and a 1330 cv front. My dad paid more locally to get a 2wd shaft shortened then I paid for 1 of mine new shipped.

I was going to order 1 ton shafts from high angle, but he did not think the front would clear my 4l80e trans, so i decided to keep it simple.

[kwmech]

Originally Posted by Richard

Do not want to bash anybody. But if I can prevent someone from going through what I did, I will. I only called him when the deadlines he set were up.
When he stopped responding, I called from my friends phone and he messaged back. A clear sign I was being ignored and I started the chargeback. His prices are double what others charge, I was willing to pay it for what was supposed to be a unique product. If he does not supply the parts he sells and takes money for. He is a thief.
Really, I am disappointed to not use his product in my build. Seeing him in all the magazines I read in the past. I had his company up there with Deaver Spring and King Shocks, both used on my truck. Obviously, I put him on to high of a pedestal.

Not at all...bash away, he's been flakey lately. From what I understand his only focus right now is making yokes and flanges for other companies with his broaching machine. Local story about a guy going to him for a shaft he needed for his semi and it took Jess about a month or so to build it and when the guy got it back it was too short, wasn't even close to the measurements Jess was given. Jess told the guy it would be another 2 weeks to make it correctly....that didn't end well. Anyways, don't count on Jess for shaft making driveshafts which ironically is what made him his name in the industry, now he's totally flaked on that and burned some bridges. I haven't bought anything from him in almost 5 years. I just go into Sacramento---which is turning into another shi.. show, since they sold their business

[Orange Crate]

OK, thanks. NOT High Angle DL.....I did speak with a local DS builder/rebuilder and they can make anything I say. So we'll see what kind of price they come up with. I had to order a flat 32 spline flange for my NP205 cuz I forgot I upgraded to the bigger front output. Doh!

[Richard]

Originally Posted by litebulblsc

I ordered front and rear driveshaft from Tom Woods and had no issues. I got a regular 1350 rear and a 1330 cv front. My dad paid more locally to get a 2wd shaft shortened then I paid for 1 of mine new shipped.

I was going to order 1 ton shafts from high angle, but he did not think the front would clear my 4l80e trans, so i decided to keep it simple.

Found out myself that ordering online was less expensive than local, even with shipping. With the manufacturing problems I have the savings will be erased and probably cost me more. Have yet to hear back from Caroliina Driveline on the shafts I purchased from them. Seems to be the way things go these days. Will Tom Woods be any better? Only experience will tell. I was told shipping from them would be in 24 hours so that is a plus.
BTW, a clearanced 1350 cv clears the 6L90 transmission in my truck fine.

[cadillac_al]

I wonder if Dennys Driveshafts is still giving good service. They were always first class.

[kwmech]

Originally Posted by Orange Crate

OK, thanks.


I had to order a flat 32 spline flange for my NP205 cuz I forgot I upgraded to the bigger front output. Doh!

There are a number of transfer cases that used a flat 32 spline yoke. The 241 t-case comes to mind. Some even had different spacing on them for clearance. Those were the factory square flange and then there are a few aftermarket round ones

[Orange Crate]

So here is a little update to the D/S search. I mentioned that I was talking to a local D/S re/builder. I got all my measurements and operating angles over to them but they said they couldn't make the double cardan front shaft because my front operating angle was "extreme" it's 17 degrees. They stated I should look at other D/S builders. Ok, so I called Tom Woods and spoke with them about building an "extreme" angle double cardan 1350 front shaft. They said "17 degrees is not extreme and just order a normal from CV shaft" So hhmm...what is that all about. I'm not a driveshaft builder so I'm relying on experienced people to help me out with the right parts. Any input from the D/S veterans here?

[kwmech]

Just have Woods build your stuff, he does good work and has reasonable prices with a guarantee.

[Richard]

They will most likely use a CV like this https://www.dennysdriveshaft.com/p17..._cv_head_.html
Says 32 degrees but in reality maxes out around 30. I clearanced mine to get about 35 degrees as I max out at 32 degrees at full droop.
Some just freak out about higher ujoint operating angles. In real world use operating angles of 10 degrees can live a long trouble free life.
With your 17 degree angle each of the ujoints in the cv are only seeing 8.5 degrees.