1968 C20 Build

[dagnabbitt]

I found that youtube account: I'm watching him fix a fender right now. Pretty interesting, I like how instead of pausing all the time to explain, he says that you should just watch him work. I also like his sense of humour: it is pretty, well, Canadian. Right now he is frustrated and mad at himself for a mistake he made and is saying he is going to give up welding because he is terrible at it, and that he will just put Bushwacker fender flares on the car, since that is what guys from Saskatchewan do with all their vehicles, even 1940 sedans. Sounds like me.

The big development which I think counts as an actual leap forward for this project: a friend of mine who has been a professional welder for 40+ years stopped by yesterday to show me a few things about welding. He's been looking at my work whenever he comes by, and he has up until now given me some general advice ("you should maybe learn how to weld"), but this time he actually gave me some coaching, set up my welder properly, and worked with me on some practice welds.

What I really appreciated was him watching me operate the welder and making adjustments to the speed and heat while I ran a bead. He didn't tell me he would do this... I was wearing a mask and welding away and had my back to him while he did it: so the effect was like I suddenly had magical welding powers. I would start a bead and it would be terrible, but by the end it was puddling and penetrating like I'd never seen it. After a lot of practice and me watching him like a hawk, my welding improved with each attempt. When he left his parting advice was "get the thinnest wire you can and run that machine as hot as you can just shy of burning through". Seems obvious, I know.

He would sometimes weld without a mask... "I just position the gun to block my view" he said. Well I won't be trying that.

Unsurprisingly, I learned more from him in 20 minutes that I did on my own for the last two years. The next day on his advice I bought some regular mild steel welding wire and a can of C25, and reversed the polarity of the machine. So I am now welding with gas, which is helpful since I no longer have to clean up my welds before going over them. I thought that a set up like that was for experts, it is not, apparently. As an amateur I would recommend this, I go over my welds often.

Anyway I am pretty pleased with today's welding. Not perfect but better than most I have done, and it took hardly any time. I am resisting the urge to redo some of my older, previous welds. Might take a quick look next weekend anyway.

I decided to make patch panels to cover up the entire floor in the cab corners: that is, all the way into the cab corners. I have seen others do this and I think as long as I leave some drain holes and make sure the underside is correct it will be fine. In the area where my little floor patches meets the insides (contours) of the cab corner I plan to just tack it in place, and then seam seal. I want to quit while I am ahead with these cab corners, I don't want to burn through or warp them. And since these floor patches aren't factory I don't think it is against the rules.

I've really learned a lot from this build: I can guarantee that there are a lot of things I will do differently next time.

[Roostre]

Originally Posted by dagnabbitt

I found that youtube account: I'm watching him fix a fender right now. Pretty interesting, I like how instead of pausing all the time to explain, he says that you should just watch him work. I also like his sense of humour: it is pretty, well, Canadian. Right now he is frustrated and mad at himself for a mistake he made and is saying he is going to give up welding because he is terrible at it, and that he will just put Bushwacker fender flares on the car, since that is what guys from Saskatchewan do with all their vehicles, even 1940 sedans. Sounds like me.

The big development which I think counts as an actual leap forward for this project: a friend of mine who has been a professional welder for 40+ years stopped by yesterday to show me a few things about welding. He's been looking at my work whenever he comes by, and he has up until now given me some general advice ("you should maybe learn how to weld"), but this time he actually gave me some coaching, set up my welder properly, and worked with me on some practice welds.

What I really appreciated was him watching me operate the welder and making adjustments to the speed and heat while I ran a bead. He didn't tell me he would do this... I was wearing a mask and welding away and had my back to him while he did it: so the effect was like I suddenly had magical welding powers. I would start a bead and it would be terrible, but by the end it was puddling and penetrating like I'd never seen it. After a lot of practice and me watching him like a hawk, my welding improved with each attempt. When he left his parting advice was "get the thinnest wire you can and run that machine as hot as you can just shy of burning through". Seems obvious, I know.

He would sometimes weld without a mask... "I just position the gun to block my view" he said. Well I won't be trying that.

Unsurprisingly, I learned more from him in 20 minutes that I did on my own for the last two years. The next day on his advice I bought some regular mild steel welding wire and a can of C25, and reversed the polarity of the machine. So I am now welding with gas, which is helpful since I no longer have to clean up my welds before going over them. I thought that a set up like that was for experts, it is not, apparently. As an amateur I would recommend this, I go over my welds often.

Anyway I am pretty pleased with today's welding. Not perfect but better than most I have done, and it took hardly any time. I am resisting the urge to redo some of my older, previous welds. Might take a quick look next weekend anyway.

I decided to make patch panels to cover up the entire floor in the cab corners: that is, all the way into the cab corners. I have seen others do this and I think as long as I leave some drain holes and make sure the underside is correct it will be fine. In the area where my little floor patches meets the insides (contours) of the cab corner I plan to just tack it in place, and then seam seal. I want to quit while I am ahead with these cab corners, I don't want to burn through or warp them. And since these floor patches aren't factory I don't think it is against the rules.

I've really learned a lot from this build: I can guarantee that there are a lot of things I will do differently next time.

Great work! I think your project has passed mine, I've been stuck with the floor out lately. I really like your patch panels in the rear corners. I've been trying to decide what to do there on mine, and I may have to copy your idea.

[dagnabbitt]

Originally Posted by Roostre

Great work! I think your project has passed mine, I've been stuck with the floor out lately. I really like your patch panels in the rear corners. I've been trying to decide what to do there on mine, and I may have to copy your idea.

Many times over the course of the "work" I have been doing have I thought that a complete floor would be easier, and ultimately cheaper than the route I took. I think you are saving yourself some headaches doing it the way you are doing it.

Every video or tutorial I have read stresses that you should keep as much of the original metal as possible: I suppose an experienced bodyman knows where to start and stop, but I am not an experienced bodyman. Every time I think that the existing metal is fine, I later discover that it is not.

As to the corner patches, I think it cleans up the interior a bit. I have angled them so that they lean down into the cab corner, and I have left a tiny hole there in case - for some reason - water gets in the cab and needs to escape.