The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > 47 - Current classic GM Trucks > The 1973 - 1987 Chevrolet & GMC Squarebody Pickups Message Board

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-22-2024, 08:06 PM   #1
Robert Crandall
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Virginia Beach, Virginia
Posts: 84
Repair Manual Question - Engine Torque Values

I work from a 1977 Chevrolet Light Duty Repair Manual. Every section shows a page for Specifications. These pages give torque values.

I cannot find torque values for the engine section. A page for Specifications are not shown in any of the 3 indexes (main, 6cyl, 8cyl). The last page of the engine section is Specifications for engine measurements, but no torque values are shown.

I am certain that it is reader error on my part, but can anyone guide me to where the torque values for engines are shown?

Thanks!
Robert Crandall is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-2024, 10:08 AM   #2
geezer#99
Registered User
 
geezer#99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Bowser
Posts: 13,707
Re: Repair Manual Question - Engine Torque Values

Like this.
From my 1976 motors manual.
Sorry about it being sideways.
Attached Images
 
geezer#99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-2024, 10:58 AM   #3
Robert Crandall
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Virginia Beach, Virginia
Posts: 84
Re: Repair Manual Question - Engine Torque Values

Thank you for your help. I find it hard to read, and I am not at first able to print it in a form that I can read, but I will work on that.

Again, thanks!
Robert Crandall is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-2024, 11:09 AM   #4
geezer#99
Registered User
 
geezer#99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Bowser
Posts: 13,707
Re: Repair Manual Question - Engine Torque Values

Try again
Attached Images
 
geezer#99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-2024, 01:46 PM   #5
Robert Crandall
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Virginia Beach, Virginia
Posts: 84
Re: Repair Manual Question - Engine Torque Values

Thank you! That copy is readable, and the print screen is also. I added the page to my book.

I am tightening valve cover and oil pan bolts. I found somewhere on this forum 80 inch lbs for the 1/4 inch bolts and 165 inch lbs for the 5/16 inch bolts. I wanted to see what the book showed, but I cannot find those values in my book. I could not make myself get them that tight, so I chose 50 and 75. Those values are far tighter than I have ever gotten them.

So far, the puddling seems to have stopped.
Robert Crandall is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-2024, 01:53 PM   #6
geezer#99
Registered User
 
geezer#99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Bowser
Posts: 13,707
Re: Repair Manual Question - Engine Torque Values

I’ve always gone by feel. Never got lucky trying to torque them.
What type of gasket?
Cork, cork/rubber, rubber etc are different kinds.
geezer#99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-23-2024, 05:04 PM   #7
Robert Crandall
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Virginia Beach, Virginia
Posts: 84
Re: Repair Manual Question - Engine Torque Values

Cork. I always used to do the same. I never wanted to take a chance of mashing the gaskets or de-forming the sheet metal flanges, so I believe I was too easy on the tightening. I always had leaks. Now they are a lot tighter than I ever put them. I used the torque wrench to make sure that I tightened each one the same.
Robert Crandall is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2024, 10:55 AM   #8
MJN
Registered User
 
MJN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Maquoketa, Ia/ Orr, Mn
Posts: 3,044
Re: Repair Manual Question - Engine Torque Values

Here is the spec page from the 1976 truck service manual, http://www.73-87chevytrucks.com/tech...Supplement.pdf

I did look at the 1977 manual and it is strange there is no mechanical torque specs for the engine listed. Either way, hope this helps.
I would be sure to read the specs posted above closely- showing 50 FT LBS for rocker arm cover bolts- those little 1/4-20 bolts would never survive that or a cork gasket. I see the little note next to the torque value but cannot read what it refers to.
Attached Images
 
__________________
'51 South Bend Model "9A"
'56 Chevy 3600 NAPCO
'74 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20-restored on 37's
'72 GMC Sierra Custom K2500- in progress
'08 GMC Envoy Denali
'12 GMC Sierra 2500HD Denali
'17 GMC Yukon XL
VCCA member #58596
http://www.nohrco.com

Last edited by MJN; 07-24-2024 at 11:01 AM.
MJN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2024, 07:23 PM   #9
Robert Crandall
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Virginia Beach, Virginia
Posts: 84
Re: Repair Manual Question - Engine Torque Values

Thank you very much for this and also for the link. I printed the page for my book.

I found somewhere on this forum 80 in lb for the 1/4 inch bolts and 165 inch lb for the 5/16. This new page shows the same 80 in lb for the 1/4 inch, but shows 75 in lb for the 5/16. Less than the 1/4 for the 5/16 does not seem logical.

I chose 50 for the 1/4 and 75 for the 5/16.
Robert Crandall is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2024, 09:35 AM   #10
MJN
Registered User
 
MJN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Maquoketa, Ia/ Orr, Mn
Posts: 3,044
Re: Repair Manual Question - Engine Torque Values

Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert Crandall View Post
Thank you very much for this and also for the link. I printed the page for my book.

I found somewhere on this forum 80 in lb for the 1/4 inch bolts and 165 inch lb for the 5/16. This new page shows the same 80 in lb for the 1/4 inch, but shows 75 in lb for the 5/16. Less than the 1/4 for the 5/16 does not seem logical.

I chose 50 for the 1/4 and 75 for the 5/16.
Its not all about the fastener size, take into account the gasket material and where on the engine its used as well. The timing cover uses a paper gasket where rocker covers or oil pan used cork gaskets. The cork gaskets would have a lesser torque value to avoid crushing the gasket even with a 5/16 fastener.
__________________
'51 South Bend Model "9A"
'56 Chevy 3600 NAPCO
'74 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20-restored on 37's
'72 GMC Sierra Custom K2500- in progress
'08 GMC Envoy Denali
'12 GMC Sierra 2500HD Denali
'17 GMC Yukon XL
VCCA member #58596
http://www.nohrco.com
MJN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2024, 11:12 PM   #11
Robert Crandall
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Virginia Beach, Virginia
Posts: 84
Re: Repair Manual Question - Engine Torque Values

Thank you for your clarification of this. Lucky for me, the 50 that I chose for the main oil pan bolts does not exceed the specification, and the 75 that I chose for the end bolts match what is required.
Robert Crandall is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:03 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com