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Re: Purchased a 1969 C10 Short Bed - Pleasanton, CA
Tonight I put the kids to sleep, grabbed a beer, and replaced the valve cover gasket on the 250. I also gave the valve cover a degreasing before I bolted it back up.
The rockers look sludgy, let’s see if this 250 will come back to life.
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Re: Purchased a 1969 C10 Short Bed - Pleasanton, CA
Also, I haven’t had a chance to trace these wires yet but wondering if you guys may know where each is going…
To clarify, there is a wire coming from the battery’s + lead into the pictured bank. Then there’s 3 additional wires coming off of that hot bank. Thanks By the way, one thing I am not used to at all is how difficult it is to reach the back of the motor on these C10 trucks lol. For example, getting to those back valve cover bolts should qualify me for the next Olympic gymnastics trials
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Re: Purchased a 1969 C10 Short Bed - Pleasanton, CA
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Re: Purchased a 1969 C10 Short Bed - Pleasanton, CA
Thank you for that!
It looks like one of the wires runs to the fuse box. The other is labeled “Engine Ham” … what is that? And then I need to trace the 3rd mystery wire on my 6cyl
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Re: Purchased a 1969 C10 Short Bed - Pleasanton, CA
It's quite common to see other stuff wired to the junction block. But from the factory the junction block has a 12 gauge wire coming from the battery, and a second wire going through a 16 gauge fusible link, and then on to the "splice" on the drivers side of the radiator support. At the soldered splice, the battery wire is connected to the alternator output wire and the fuse panel feed wire.
It's been a while, but the mechanical regulator may also be connected to the splice. If your truck has an ammeter instead of a warning lamp, the wire that runs from the battery junction block to the splice will actually be a resistance wire with tiny fuses on each end. The ammeter is actually just a voltmeter with "zero" in the center, and it responds to current flow and direction (charge/discharge) across the resistance wire. Kind of a strange way to do it, but I guess GM didn't want to run 30-40 amps into the cabin and use an actual ammeter.
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Re: Purchased a 1969 C10 Short Bed - Pleasanton, CA
^ GM was smart to use a shunt, in my book. I've been under the dash of many a Mopar with scorched wires at the ammeter. Thermal expansion and contraction eventually created a weak connection.
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Re: Purchased a 1969 C10 Short Bed - Pleasanton, CA
Speaking of resistance wire: On some GM cars, instead of a ballast resistor on the firewall, the wire from ignition switch to coil is a resistance wire, and it was bundled in with other wires under the dash.
I worked on a 64 GTO that was hard to start, and wouldn't rev like it should. Turns out someone had added an HEI but left the resistance wire in place, so the distributor was getting only around 9 volts. That resistance wire was melted into an under-dash wire bundle, so I replaced it with a 12ga wire. After that, the engine started easy and revved well. But I had aches and pains from lying on my back!
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Re: Purchased a 1969 C10 Short Bed - Pleasanton, CA
Well it’s been a motivated weekend. I managed to get the 275/60/15 BFGs onto the 15x8 4.0” BS truck rally wheels.
Not on the truck yet but looks to be a big improvement over the wheels the truck arrived with.
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Re: Purchased a 1969 C10 Short Bed - Pleasanton, CA
Still has at least one original T3 headlamp bulb!
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Wow, how can you tell that 😀
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I will say that I am not used to the weight of these truck rally wheels.
I’m not sure what each weighs but it’s by far the heaviest wheel I’ve ever handled on a vehicle lol. Each wheel needed 2-3oz of weight to balance out. With typical lightweight alloy sedan wheels, I typically need 0-0.5oz to balance. Tire shop didn’t seem concerned and said although more weight is sometimes needed for steel truck wheels, they balanced out fine in the end.
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The triangle in the middle of the bulb.
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1970 K/5 Blazer CST 4WD, Bronze, 93k ACT. miles, 350, 4 speed, positraction, 16.5" x 8.25" wheel option, tilt, tach, vacuum, AM/FM, manual throttle...Dad ordered and purchased new 4/70. Currently frame off restoration in progress... ![]() 1972 Cheyenne Super 20 2WD, DK Blue/White, 90K ACT. miles, 402, TH400, 4.10 open, tilt, tach, vacuum, A/C, AM/FM, manual throttle.. A mostly original paint never rusted Texas survivor... ![]() 2017 Sierra 1500 SLT 4WD, Black, 41k miles, 5.3, 6L80E, 3.42 LS, 20" polished wheels, everything but moonroof and 6.2... 2019 Canyon SLT 4WD, White, 60k miles, 3.6, 8L45, 3.23 LS, 18" wheels |
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Ahh, I see that on the lens
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Via online search I’m seeing an estimate of ~70lbs for a 15x8 truck rally with 275/60/15 tire. That means 280lbs of wheels! What a handicap!
I love the look of these wheels but might have to rethink these over the long term as I get into improving the handling, braking, and acceleration of the truck.
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Of course, then I bang my head on the hood a lot The truck always wins
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Yes. Even when I was 20 years younger, they were a b|tch to pick up and put in place. Now I set them on a 2x6 and wobble them on. Even then, it's tough to do.
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Thanks for sharing. I’ll probably make my first attempt at actually bolting those wheels up to the truck next weekend and will report back on the fun 😀
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