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Old Yesterday, 02:20 PM   #1
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Which CAM?

77 truck short block (stock dish pistons )
64cc iron heads with 2.02/1.6 valves and 184cc intake runners
Edelbrock 2101 intake
Stock Qjet (77 k10 auto)
Hooker super comps 1.875 primary tubes
Transmission is BW super T-10
Rear gear is a 3.08 but will go to 3.55 /3:73 in future
Tire size is 265/60r15
Weigh is # 3500

Driving will be street not a race car, no towing.

Would like some recommendations in both flat tap and roller. Would also consider solid lift cams.

Somethibg like a COMP 268h?

Thanks for any input!
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Old Yesterday, 02:45 PM   #2
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Re: Which CAM?

I ran both the HE and XE 268 cams. Don't really remember the HE, it was over 25 years ago. But XE sounded wicked in my TBI406, pulled like a freight train. But can't go wrong with either.
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Old Yesterday, 03:55 PM   #3
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Re: Which CAM?

Two items in your combination need serious consideration when selecting a cam.. Those dish pistons = low compression.. Most performance cams need a minimum of 9.0 + compression. Longer duration moves the power band up the RPM range. That 3.08 rearend ratio and low compression just hinders any moves in that direction..

Carburetor, intake manifold, camshaft profile, if automatic transmission the torque converter stall speed, rearend ratio AND distributor curve -- all play an important part in the "package"...
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Two items in your combination need serious consideration when selecting a cam.. Those dish pistons = low compression.. Most performance cams need a minimum of 9.0 + compression. Longer duration moves the power band up the RPM range. That 3.08 rearend ratio and low compression just hinders any moves in that direction..

Carburetor, intake manifold, camshaft profile, if automatic transmission the torque converter stall speed, rearend ratio AND distributor curve -- all play an important part in the "package"...

Those are good points. With my 64CC heads and a .015 or .018 head gasket should my compression be 9.0 or closer to 8.5? My current short block would be no good for a cam making power above 6,000 rpm. Feel free to offer opinions and recommendations i am reading and learning as much as i can. I think the manual transmission and planned reqr gear change really helps what i am tryibg to do.
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Re: Which CAM?

The actual final compression ratio not only depends on the combustion chamber volume, but also the volume of the dished area of the piston.. Long duration camshafts require higher compression ratios..

As for the lifter recommendation.. Solid lifters are not very friendly on the street. There's nothing wrong with quality hydraulic lifters. Because of the modern oil formulas, flat tappet lifters are at risk.
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Re: Which CAM?

Assumptions:
1. Bore 4.125
2. Stroke 3.75
3. Cylinder Head Volume = 64cc
4. Dish Pistons = +12cc
5. Deck Clearance = 0.00
6. Compressed Head Gasket Thickness = .041
= Static Compression Ratio of 10.66:1

With iron heads and the siamesed bore of the 400, you are definitely going to need some duration to bleed off compression to arrive at a dynamic ratio that wont detonate. I don't think the XE 268 would be enough as it will produce a dynamic ratio of 9.8 when installed "straight up". I would say you will want something that will shave at least one point off of that ratio. With the bigger engine - relative to factory small blocks - you should be able to use a bigger cam and not have the truck feel overcammed.
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2. Stroke 3.75
Was thinking the same thing... is it a 400 or a 350?

And for me, the Quadrajet would be the first thing to be eliminated.

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Re: Which CAM?

How did you get the truck down to 3500lbs?
This seems like a bad combo.
Iron heads and over 10:1 compression, 3.08 rear gears, 1 3/4" primary headers but a normal performer intake and Qjet carb [not even a performer RPM].
Hard to pick a cam with such a matchup of parts.
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Re: Which CAM?

Guys where are you getting 400?

This is a 350. It is the 350 out of my 77 K10. It lives in my 1980 Corvette now that my 1977 K10 is diesel swapped.

Stock 1977 k10 short block ( pistons and bore)
64cc iron head 184 intake runners
Hooker super comp headers
Preformer dual plane intake
Qjet carb.
Car weighs about 3500 pounds
Car has a Super T -10 4 speed


Online compression ratios put me close to 9:1. Unless i am messing that up?
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