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Old 09-12-2024, 10:01 PM   #1
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Thinking about re wiring Who makes the best harness

What are guys using as far as re wiring harness kits. I’ve heard of American Wire and Painless. Are there any more out there. Would like to hear suggestions

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I used American Autowire..and will use them in the future ..very nice kit
Have a buddy that's used kwikwire on several of his..
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Re: Thinking about re wiring Who makes the best harness

I used the M&H upgrade kit on my '67 with great success.
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Re: Thinking about re wiring Who makes the best harness

My boy used Painless and it was straight forward and pretty simple or at least I thought so.
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I used the M&H upgrade kit on my '67 with great success.
I would like to know more about this one. What does a Upgrade Kit include
Who is M&H - Web Site ?
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Old 09-13-2024, 11:17 AM   #6
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I've used a Painless kit before and it was anything but, plus a lot of undersized wires. American Auto Wire has been my go to for the past 3 kits
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Old 09-13-2024, 11:45 AM   #8
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Re: Thinking about re wiring Who makes the best harness

I have an AAW for my project. My brother installed one of there kits in his 70 Camaro and prefered it over the previous Painless kits he's used. Some of the "update" stuff is modern blade type fuses and relays for headlights.

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Old 09-13-2024, 04:19 PM   #9
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I used Painless on my hot rods that needed a total rewire. They worked well. I used the 21 universal kit. Not the direct fit kits.
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Re: Thinking about re wiring Who makes the best harness

Are you doing a plug and play stock replacement or do you have major changes in mind?
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Re: Thinking about re wiring Who makes the best harness

My Big ? Is I have Dakota Digital, Vantage Air, A1 Power windows, LS1 Computer which all have there own harness. So what am I really Re Wiring
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Re: Thinking about re wiring Who makes the best harness

i built a custom truck using a squarebody drivetrain with a 51 international as the body. I used American Auto Wire and the harness is great and easy to install
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Re: Thinking about re wiring Who makes the best harness

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I would like to know more about this one. What does a Upgrade Kit include
Who is M&H - Web Site ?
Here's a link to the website. https://www.wiringharness.com/
The upgrade has the ATO blade type fuses, it also includes several extra high amp fused circuits and an additional heavy gage feed wire into the fuse block to feed the additional circuits.
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Re: Thinking about re wiring Who makes the best harness

The LS ECM will need 12 volts constant and 12 volts in start and run when you turn the key. Your LS harness should include a fan relay and fuel pump relay.
I assume you will need a relay for the power windows.
Same with the AC circuit.
Gauges I'm thinking 12 volts in key on and run. Check with Dakota if it needs a constant 12 volt.
You have so much aftermarket stuff a direct fit harness would be a waste of money if its a lot more money than a universal kit IMO.
I love to hide wires. So on my 68 project I moved the Painless fuse block away from the fire wall and welded the hole shut. Then made a small hole and ran the chassis wires forward and back along the frame rail.
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The LS ECM will need 12 volts constant and 12 volts in start and run when you turn the key. Your LS harness should include a fan relay and fuel pump relay.
I assume you will need a relay for the power windows.
Same with the AC circuit.
Gauges I'm thinking 12 volts in key on and run. Check with Dakota if it needs a constant 12 volt.
You have so much aftermarket stuff a direct fit harness would be a waste of money if its a lot more money than a universal kit IMO.
I love to hide wires. So on my 68 project I moved the Painless fuse block away from the fire wall and welded the hole shut. Then made a small hole and ran the chassis wires forward and back along the frame rail.
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You get What I’m saying. Maybe if I call AAW they can help. Nice Pics,love the hidden look. Here’s mine
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Thanks for the kind words.
In regards to the ECM harness I punched a hole in the fire wall behind the right cylinder just low enough so I missed the heater box. I mounted the ECM and fuse holder behind the glove box. Had to section the glove box a bit to make room.
In the pic of the right hand side of the engine you can just see the Painless fuse holder. That wire goes to the fuse block.
Just for fun a pic of my latest 80 Camaro with a LS3 swap. Again tried to hide as many wires as possible.
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Glad to see others that like the clean look with hidden wires.
Some wires showing is nearly impossible to avoid but I loomed everything and that helped make it blend in.

My LS1 is from a 2002 F-body. I was able to use the Holley bracket and mount the AC compressor down low and out of sight.

I modified all the wiring from the bulkhead connector to eliminate the harness going across the cowl, also routed the cross wiring on the front to go underneath the core support.
I then made a custom cover to hide the bulkhead connector and route the wires under the fender up to the front.

I built an under-hood load center for all the swap fuses and relays and even added relays to power the headlights from there, using the dimmer switch as the trigger.

Mounted the PCM on the back side of the core support with a modified GM bracket.
Because I was installing air conditioning, there was no room behind the glove box.
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Re: Thinking about re wiring Who makes the best harness

In your original message you didnt really specify what you needed a harness for.
so alot of assuming took place
Ive got a mixture..
My LS is running a PSI harness..the LS needs its own dedicated harness, but is easily tied into the truck harness...my 81 still has the factory harness on the truck side
My other truck also uses a PSI for the LS, but the truck side is the AAW..
The aaw harness can be ordered by how many circuits that you need..
If you need the truck side , make a list of all your electrical, I'm sure whoever you decide on would be happy to direct you to what you need
If your needing the LS harness ,there are several good ones on the market..my only complaint on the PSI is the harness is to short to allow the ecm to be mounted under the seat... BP makes their harness longer so it can be hidden under the seat..I'm using BP on my next one
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