Let’s talk Front End Rebuild

[Luke87gt]

Hi all, my 1969 c10 is badly in need of a front suspension rebuild.

I was planning on replacing the following parts using either Moog or Mevotech replacement parts from RockAuto (for years I used Moog in all my cars but since switched over to Mevotech and have been pleased with the quality/value).

I was hoping to check with you guys about what the go-to brand you guys are using here and if I should make consideration for any other options before placing the order.

Parts list:

- upper/lower ball joints
- idler arm
- Pittman arm
- sway bar bushings
- control arm shaft kit
- inner/outer tie rods and sleeve

Questions:

1.) do these front control arms have bushings? I don’t see anything listed on RockAuto other than the shaft kit

2.) is there a steering damper in these trucks?

3.) other than what’s shown above, is there anything else I should look at to reduce the steering slop/play

Also, can anyone link me to shorter front/rear bump stops? I will be doing a 2/4 or 3/5 drop eventually.

Big thank you!

[Steeveedee]

Couldn't tell you about the lower control arms, but uppers have bushings.

Stock 2wd does not use a steering damper.

Check steering gear box play. There's an adjustment for it.

You will need some sort of shock absorber mount relocation scheme.

If you have a trailing arm suspension it would be easier to buy an adjustable Panhard bar unless you can do some fabrication. The rear axle will shift to one side when you lower it.

[Rust_never_sleeps]

I watched this one, IIRC this shows the whole deal including control-arm shaft bushings
IF they don't list the bushings, you might just wanna get new shafts with bushings, IIRC they're pretty cheap.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dTIQ7mfWlg&t=393s

[Rust_never_sleeps]

Originally Posted by Rust_never_sleeps

IF they don't list the bushings, you might just wanna get new shafts with bushings

Some come with bushings, some don't

[dmjlambert]

Originally Posted by Luke87gt

3.) other than what’s shown above, is there anything else I should look at to reduce the steering slop/play

In my (admittedly limited) experience, none of that has much to do with steering slop/play unless you have noticed a specific item that has play or is worn out. I'm thinking probably top of the list for steering slop would be the rag joint and the steering box. If you have power steering, the service manual has details about thrust bearing preload adjustment and over-center preload adjustment. I don't know if there are a lot of folks with detailed experience in those adjustments as my thread on the subject did not get a whole lot of discussion. If you have manual steering, I don't have experience with that yet but I would tend to consult the manual.

If you don't have a paper manual they are reasonably cheap, I bought mine used on ebay. The forum has a thread with PDFs. https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=558016

Here is a thread with my limited experience regarding thrust bearing preload adjustment and over-center preload adjustment. My slop was caused by me when re-sealing the steering gear, so the thread may not be what you're looking for, sorry if it is just noise. https://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vbo...d.php?t=812162

I believe there is normally a small amount of play in the steering, the feel of the steering was not tight and it was different back in the day even when the trucks were new.

[Accelo]

1.) do these front control arms have bushings? I don’t see anything listed on RockAuto other than the shaft kit

The control arm shaft kit comes with everything you need. No bushings till 1973. They have what amounts to a threaded nut. It threads into the control arm and the cross shaft at the same time. The grease zerk on the end of the nut lubricates the threads.

[Already Gone]

Redid the front end completely on my 72 C10. Used all Moog, every box said made in the USA, front end parts and added a Borgeson Steering box and Power Steerng pump. No front end slop now as steers like a modern vehicles. Also have 1 1/4 inch front sway bar from a square body 1 ton truck.