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Old 09-02-2022, 08:41 PM   #76
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Re: Rear Axle Ratio Charts For 1967 - 1972 GM Trucks

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i have a 1970 leaf-spring 6-lug 3:07 posi, which is "tpo 0422". I decode this as:
  • tpo=ca 10 3.07 posi
  • 0422=april 22

what is the meaning of ca vs ce?

at first i thought it might be leaf spring rear suspension vs. Coil spring rear suspension, but i see the same with k-series so this is ruled out.
CA = [2wd] ALL.
CE = '' V8
CS = '' L6
CM = '' V6
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Old 09-02-2022, 08:49 PM   #77
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Old 09-10-2022, 02:57 PM   #78
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Re: Rear Axle Ratio Charts For 1967 - 1972 GM Trucks

This is one awesome thread! So the stamp on my axle is TPR 0612w2 E. It is decoded as either 1970 KE 10 3.07 w/ posi or 1971 G-10 3.36. The gears are 3.07 I can confirm but not with a stamp, rather an engraving where the stamp usual is. This is a 12 bolt unit.
Is the KE designated as 4 wheel drive rear end?
Any literature on decoding the casting #s on the outside of rear end? #3896839
My truck is a 1970 k10 swb. Im curious id that 12 bolt was an option on a 1/2 ton truck. The SPID does not say that. Most likely added later by previous owner?
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Old 09-10-2022, 04:11 PM   #79
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This is one awesome thread!
Is the KE designated as 4 wheel drive rear end?
Yes. Specifically K = 4WD [C = 2WD, but you knew that.]
E = Eight cylinders.

Other designators are -- KS, KM, KA.
S = Six cylinders [L6]
M = Six cylinders [V6]
A = All trucks.

Front wheel drive [only] was not an option in this era. All vehicles were primarily rear wheel drive. Front wheel drive assist was actuated by locking the hubs. You have to get out of the truck, stand in the mud, stoop down and twist the levers on each side to engage.

The Corporation 12-Bolt differential was standard on all 1/2 tons.
[There may have been ''Heavy Half'' variations optioned, but I won't get into that. ]

dlyons321 -- Is your truck an automatic? Manual gearshift trucks got 3.73. Automatics got 3.08.
3.36 is an unusual ratio for a pickup.
G/10s are 1/2 ton Vans iirc.
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Old 09-10-2022, 05:46 PM   #80
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Yes. Specifically K = 4WD [C = 2WD, but you knew that.]
E = Eight cylinders.

Other designators are -- KS, KM, KA.
S = Six cylinders [L6]
M = Six cylinders [V6]
A = All trucks.

Front wheel drive [only] was not an option in this era. All vehicles were primarily rear wheel drive. Front wheel drive assist was actuated by locking the hubs. You have to get out of the truck, stand in the mud, stoop down and twist the levers on each side to engage.

The Corporation 12-Bolt differential was standard on all 1/2 tons.
[There may have been ''Heavy Half'' variations optioned, but I won't get into that. ]

dlyons321 -- Is your truck an automatic? Manual gearshift trucks got 3.73. Automatics got 3.08.
3.36 is an unusual ratio for a pickup.
G/10s are 1/2 ton Vans iirc.
Orange,
I understand everything other than the 12 bolt coming standard on 1/2 ton trucks. I have been under the impression that 1/2 ton got 10 bolts and 3/4 ton got the 12 bolts.
My truck is automatic and has Dana 44 with 3.07 gears in the front.
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Old 09-10-2022, 08:05 PM   #81
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I understand everything other than the 12 bolt coming standard on 1/2 ton trucks. I have been under the impression that 1/2 ton got 10 bolts and 3/4 ton got the 12 bolts.
My truck is automatic and has Dana 44 with 3.07 gears in the front.
You may have it backwards. Some 3/4 ton diff had 10 bolts and the FF had 14.
Later than 67-72, S/15s had 10 bolt diffs, but that was coincidental and another type.
The 12-Bolt Truck rearend was different from the 12-Bolt Car diff, too.
I'm not expert on the EATON and HO52 rears. They were 3/4 ton iirc.
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Old 09-11-2022, 01:07 AM   #82
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ahhhh I got it now. I apologize I'm a recovering square body guy. I bought this truck in July and I'm just now getting some real time with it. Thanks for your help!
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The axle code that's on my 1971 K10 is not listed for some reason. The code is TAZ. It is 3.73 with posi, and it is listed on the SPID. The date code cast into the housing is I 12 0, or September 12th, 1970.
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SWEET ~ that's the rear end I'd love to find .
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The axle code that's on my 1971 K10 is not listed for some reason. The code is TAZ. It is 3.73 with posi, and it is listed on the SPID. The date code cast into the housing is I 12 0, or September 12th, 1970.

There have been a few that haven't been listed. If the charts had been typed out it would be easy to add them but I got all of them as *.jpg files so it might be a little tough to do. I might try adding that to the bottom of the list in the 1971 picture and see what happens.
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The axle code that's on my 1971 K10 is not listed for some reason. The code is TAZ. It is 3.73 with posi, and it is listed on the SPID. The date code cast into the housing is I 12 0, or September 12th, 1970.

I added that one to the list for '71.
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I added that one to the list for '71.
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Re: Rear Axle Ratio Charts For 1967 - 1972 GM Trucks

After 50 plus years do the stamped codes really mean anything. My '67 had 4.56 gears with a open diff. About 15 years ago, I installed 3.54 gears with posi carrier I took out of a '80s Dodge Dana. The code/ numbers on the axle have the wrong info.
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After 50 plus years do the stamped codes really mean anything. My '67 had 4.56 gears with a open diff. About 15 years ago, I installed 3.54 gears with posi carrier I took out of a '80s Dodge Dana. The code/ numbers on the axle have the wrong info.

I'm sure many of them have been modified over the years but I would say that the majority of the ones that have been changed have been changed as a whole unit and that would retain the integrity of the code.
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Post Proper Repair Methods

Way back when I was a dealer mechanic we were told to always obliterate the stamped in codes whenever we did a change of the internals .

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Way back when I was a dealer mechanic we were told to always obliterate the stamped in codes whenever we did a change of the internals .


That certainly makes sense. I'm betting most of the small shops didn't follow that policy. I have a friend here in town that has done quite a few of them. I will have to ask him about it.
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