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View Poll Results: 13" Brakes: Any Interest? | |||
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195 | 95.59% |
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9 | 4.41% |
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#226 | |
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Re: How Much Interest: 13" Big Brake Upgrade
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![]() ![]() I'm already looking for calipers. Also, I'm wondering if the LS1 F-body calipers would work too. The calipers are VERY similar to the corvette calipers and are a lot more plentiful, and then don't include the corvette tax on them. |
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#227 | |
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Re: How Much Interest: 13" Big Brake Upgrade
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#228 |
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Red Chute,LA
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Re: How Much Interest: 13" Big Brake Upgrade
It seems to me that so much of the problem we face in modifying our vehicles at a reasonable price is that someone is always trying to make a buck off of "R&D" that isn't all that special. We spend a lot of time working on our old stuff, but are happy to give away the benefit of our experience and tell our friends anything that we learn that might help benefit them. There are many examples of this by our members, some who have put in a lot of personal time researching solutions mostly without any profit, to help others or just for the fun of it. Some specialty vendors, on the other hand, want to maximize profit by selling kits full of generic parts along with unique parts so they can make more money marking up every little piece. Whatever the market will bear. Nothing wrong in offering kits for sale, this is America, but these proprietary R&D "secrets" aren't really worth it to those with lower incomes who need to stretch every dollar and require more flexibility in our sourcing options. So a certain bracket will mount a certain caliper to a certain spindle using a certain hub and a certain rotor and will fit within the space of certain wheels and somebody has to figure it all out. But when nearly every component in a kit is a stock part, we have to ultimately pay for all the extra overhead the vendor creates in acquiring,stocking,assembling,and shipping parts that we can get locally. It might be different if the kit saved money for us on these generic items as well as having the convenience of one stop shopping, which adds value, but instead they usually just jack up the total mark-up. So, you're going to find that it is usually impossible to get these guys to sell just the unique parts to make these kits work, because that's not going to make enough money to satisfy them. But getting nickel and dimed to death makes it cost too much for some of us. Sure, I know profit is what makes this stuff possible in the marketplace, and many times you get customer service along with the R&D required for unique products, but we shouldn't have to bleed unnecessarily out of every orifice. I guess maybe it's just sour grapes because I want but can't have. But SCOTI has put in a lot of personal effort to promote this project, just like Glock35IPSC did on his, to GIVE us some R&D. So please recognise their contributions and be grateful enough to give them props for their efforts and the community spirit which it signifies. And be courteous enough to try not to crap other peoples threads please. Sorry I got carried away! Rant: Off
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#229 | |
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Re: How Much Interest: 13" Big Brake Upgrade
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Curious to see your Baer kit - are you able to still post pic's. Does your kit have separate hub and rotor. I've got Baer 6S and 14's on one of my cars and wanted something similar for my 68 - Baer or this new part discussed in the thread. |
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#230 |
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Re: How Much Interest: 13" Big Brake Upgrade
I've asked for pics & prices. . .....
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#231 |
its just $$$$$
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: OK
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Re: How Much Interest: 13" Big Brake Upgrade
sorry guys i completely forgot about the pics. I will take some today.
Scoti.. i think i PM'd you the price. Anyways it cost me about $2500 for the front and rear kit from baer. |
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#232 |
its just $$$$$
Join Date: Jul 2003
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Re: How Much Interest: 13" Big Brake Upgrade
here are some disassembled pics
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#233 |
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Location: Valley Center KS
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Re: How Much Interest: 13" Big Brake Upgrade
Any developments on this kit?
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#234 |
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Re: How Much Interest: 13" Big Brake Upgrade
Are the hubs specialty made or are they an off the shelf unit from another vehicle?
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#235 |
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Re: How Much Interest: 13" Big Brake Upgrade
The hubs for the kit I was helping with are spec made billet pieces based off of C10 hub dimensions.
Ackattack, I'll see if they're production ready yet.
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#236 |
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Los Angles CA
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Re: How Much Interest: 13" Big Brake Upgrade
Scotti, if KORE3 does not have hubs yet, you can get either 5 or 6 lug hubs from CPP. These hubs are already shipping with the CPP 13” kits.
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#237 | |
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Re: How Much Interest: 13" Big Brake Upgrade
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Re: How Much Interest: 13" Big Brake Upgrade
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#239 | |
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Re: How Much Interest: 13" Big Brake Upgrade
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My stuff is C6 13.4" rotors, C5/6 2-pot PBR calipers, billet hubs, bearings, seals, stainless flex brake lines, ARP wheel studs, and the required brackets for the conversion. I could have gotten 14" rotors for a little more too....
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#240 |
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Join Date: Jan 2008
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Re: How Much Interest: 13" Big Brake Upgrade
my Baers came assembled and had them in 7 days. But they are local and they are helping with the build of my truck =)
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#241 |
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Re: How Much Interest: 13" Big Brake Upgrade
WOW!!!! I am glad i came across this thread. I have seen it before but didn't have much time to check it out and man it looks like i missed alot. It is funny. We have alot of parts available for our trucks but when it comes to big brakes we don't have much at all. Until NOW!!!!!
I also apologize if this was asked before ( i did look but just in case i missed it) will this setup work with the big C6 Z06 brake package? I believe that Kore3 sells a kit for the rear but the front was always a issue. Thanks for sharing scoti!!! You are definately the man ![]() ![]() Josh
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#242 | |
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Re: How Much Interest: 13" Big Brake Upgrade
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They had dimensions on file & from several trucks (mine included) but from what I understood the 'bolt-on' rear kit was still a little ways off. They do offer car 12-bolt & 9" stuff & the large 9" ends could be swapped over to truck rears (like typical c-clip elimination procedures) for a right now solution. Seems truck rears are like those dang late model 8.5" 10-bolt g-body (Grand national/T-type) rear ends since they have specific housing ends not shared w/other product lines. I'm waiting to hear from him w/any new updates.
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#243 |
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Re: How Much Interest: 13" Big Brake Upgrade
My latest e-mail response . .....
Scot, Things are going well. Busy. We've got the first production run of hubs going now for the trucks which should be ready in about 1-2 weeks. Honestly, the instructions are the last thing that needs to be addressed, but we'll do what it takes to make it happen. Our goal is to list the truck application on the website the first part of September. We've got the "race" brackets for the rear 12-bolt w/o a parking brake and are hoping to have a parking brake solution ready by the end of the year. Thanks for checking in and I hope your summer is treating you well thus far.
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#244 | |
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Re: How Much Interest: 13" Big Brake Upgrade
I think i might have missed it. Can you buy just the hubs and bearings? If so do you have an idea on what that might cost? That way i can buy my own rotors and calipers. I know i would have to fab up my own bracket for the calipers. Thanks Scotti!
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#245 |
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Re: How Much Interest: 13" Big Brake Upgrade
You have PM.
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#246 |
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Re: How Much Interest: 13" Big Brake Upgrade
Scoti,
is there any info in this thread about the rear brakes besides in post #243? Details? |
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#247 |
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Re: How Much Interest: 13" Big Brake Upgrade
When we talked last he told me if I wanted them 'soon' I would need to go a different route as there were other projects ahead of this rear 'kit'. I told him I could use my rear drums for now but never did nail down exactly how long the wait might be....
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#248 |
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Re: How Much Interest: 13" Big Brake Upgrade
For some reason I never subscribed. Now I have.
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